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The last time I was vaccinated without my consent was when I was 6 years old, before starting first grade.

At school, they forcibly vaccinated me against tuberculosis (Mantoux test). I threw a tantrum, but they still injected me, and I have a terrible allergy to the Mantoux test, but no one cared, and I ended up sitting with a swollen arm, taking medication.
And in college, we were mass-vaccinated against the flu.

Lider1,
I didn't say it for nothing that you got riled up from a little teasing.
And yes, it's worth noting that we have more achievements in that field, even according to your words. Not by much, but more.
Let's just close this painful topic =)

Then let me go back to the topic of my friend, and I'll explain why that is. I'd like to know where he goes to box, just for clarity.

If we take Moscow, St. Petersburg, Rostov, where many people have moved to, there are indeed many Caucasians in the boxing gyms and halls. One of my friends started going to a gym in his city, and before that, he played basketball. The story about his gym is below. And the other one goes to Moscow; he's been playing soccer since childhood, and they switched to boxing due to the unfriendly atmosphere. And there are many like them. But it turns out that the gym is attended by both beginners who came from the streets due to circumstances and those who came from other places and have been doing boxing since childhood, and you can really see the difference - that some are not very good. But if you go to Novosibirsk, the Urals, Siberia, you won't find 1-2 Caucasians in the whole city; the statistics are different, that's just how it is =)

I'll tell you right away about the gym in our city: Caucasians started coming to a different shift, and after about two months, it turned out that they were training during prime time, from 8 to 10, which formally meant that half of those who used to train in the gym would no longer be able to train there because they simply can't come from work from 6 to 8. That's how our officials are; they do everything for their own people.

Now the argument will begin.

Now the argument about which faction is better will begin ;)

Go ahead =) I think I've done everything to avoid the argument.

And yet, it’s worth noting that there are more achievements in the same box, even according to your words. Not by much, but still more.

"More" and "show me at least one," these seem like slightly different things, right?
As for how much more? There's nothing else there besides a swan and a pie.

Let's close this painful topic =)

No need to, dude.

I'll tell you a story about a gym in our city: some Caucasians started coming during another shift, and after about two months, it turned out that they were working out during prime time from 8 to 10 am, which meant that half of those who used to work out in the gym could no longer do so because they simply couldn't get there from work between 6 and 8 am. That's what our officials are like; they do everything for their own people.

That's not my problem anymore. It's already a global conspiracy issue :D

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it fits perfectly, I would say.
Something will definitely happen there ))

Go and get vaccinated against cervical cancer and breast cancer.

No, thank you. I don't know about such vaccines; it seems more like a way to extract money:D You might as well call a placebo a vaccine against bad mood and enthusiastically prove that vaccines are evil)).

Out of all the articles I've studied, both for and against vaccination, I've come to the clear conclusion that mass vaccination is a biological weapon aimed at destroying the population.

What is the celebrated Rimple2's artificial selection even looking at?!:D

Where is the much-praised artificial selection by Rimpel2 looking?! :D

But what, do you see a difference? Or can artificial selection not occur through biological weapons aimed at destroying the population?

Have you never heard of smallpox? Hah )))

Not that I'm saying Wikipedia is always right, but in this case, the information is of such a nature that our entire kindergarten knows about it.

http://naturalworld.ru/article_privivki-detyam-skritaya-pravda.htm

Two hundred years of vaccination history are two hundred years of silencing and distorting real facts and ignoring human tragedies. During this time, a monstrous accumulation of lies has emerged, migrating through textbooks and popular science books... Lies so fundamental that even among doctors it is impossible to find a truly knowledgeable person! In this time, a huge vaccination business has grown worldwide with giant incomes and influence, ensured by the military and geopolitical claims of major states and secret governments. And in the minds of ordinary citizens, the idea has firmly taken root that vaccinations are a great blessing, the salvation of humanity from terrible epidemics. However, sooner or later, the truth comes out anyway, and the dirty pages of same vaccination history of own humanity will finally become known not only to a narrow circle of "initiates" standing behind the development and implementation of this biological weapon for the mass destruction of human immunity...

Lie No. 1

With the help of vaccinations, such a terrible disease as smallpox was eliminated.

A study of literature shows that same own natural smallpox disappeared rather in spite of vaccinations than thanks to them. Examples of countries (England, Japan, Philippines, Mexico) are known and well-documented where the incidence of smallpox and mortality from it increased as the number of vaccinations for the population increased and vaccination laws became stricter. Statistics also show that, as a rule, epidemics began among the vaccinated, and only then spread to the unvaccinated. Conversely, in those countries where there were no vaccinations at all or an extremely insignificant percentage of the population was vaccinated (Australia) and even in separate cities that expelled mass vaccinations from their territory (Leicester in England after the epidemic of 1870-72), there were no smallpox epidemics. The WHO campaign to eradicate smallpox in the 1950s-60s actually showed the complete inefficiency of vaccinations. It is known (although not widely publicized for obvious reasons) that the last African epidemics were successfully handled without mass vaccinations at all, practically by isolation and treatment of the sick alone, as has always been done in the case of infectious diseases since time immemorial. Smallpox was declared eliminated when... less than 10% of the Earth's population had been vaccinated. The reasons for its disappearance are absolutely the same as the reasons for the actual disappearance of the plague — improved sanitary-epidemiological conditions of human living areas and the absence of chronic carriers of the disease pathogen.

Lie No. 2

The statistics of complications from vaccinations are minimal.

According to the statistics of the Federal Center for Hygiene and Epidemiology (the new name of the Gossanepidnadzor service), about 400 cases of post-vaccination complications from all vaccinations are registered every year in Russia; on April 20-21, 2006, in Saint Petersburg at the GU SPb Research Institute of Phthisiopulmonology (Politekhnicheskaya St., 32), an All-Russian scientific-practical conference "Actual issues of detection, diagnostics and treatment of extra-pulmonary tuberculosis" was held. In the report of the bone tuberculosis surgery department of said institute, medical histories of 850 children treated there for osteoarticular tuberculosis caused by the BCG vaccine were analyzed. These are data only for Saint Petersburg and only for one vaccination. Draw your own conclusions.

Lie No. 3

The vaccinated do not get sick or experience the disease in a mild form

From the Letter of the Federal Service for Surveillance on Consumer Rights Protection and Human Wellbeing dated 06.27.05 N 0100/4853-05-32 "On the results of mass immunization of the population of the Russian Federation against diphtheria in 2004": As in previous years, the vaccinated predominate among those who fell ill. The percentage of vaccinated sick adults was 68.4%, children — 83.2%." In the handbook for doctors "Vaccine Prevention" (2001, SPb, "Peter" publishing house, edited by B. M. Tayts and A. G. Rakhmanova), one of the chapters is titled: "Fatal outcomes of diphtheria in vaccinated adults."

The time has come to know the truth that is being hidden from you!

We will not bring hundreds of terrible examples, arguments, proofs and opinions of the greatest immunologist scientists from different countries here, which already overflow books in libraries, documentaries on TV and forums of hundreds of Internet sites. For all thinking people who read and are not indifferent to their health, there is enough information. If you need this information, the film "The Truth About Vaccinations" and the book "Merciless Immunization" right on our website are at your service. We, however, will talk about the main things with those who have already regained the ability for an adequate understanding of reality.

Tasks performed by vaccination:

1. Military

This is a tool of biological war between opposing states on the general political arena. Within this war, the task of vaccination is not to destroy the opponent biologically, but to achieve global weakening of their immunity, which in the long term will ensure significantly less resistance of society to any viral diseases, and earlier and higher mortality. Over the last 25 years, irrefutable data have been accumulated that vaccines are used as biological weapons of mass destruction. In particular, the appearance of such a disease as AIDS is an attempt to hide the mass failure of the immune system in residents of Africa and Brazil as a result of mass vaccination carried out by the WHO in these countries in the 1980s.

2. Economic and political

This is a tool of economic pressure and political blackmail. In the economic sphere, vaccinations allow, within days and with the assistance of the media, to organize an economic blockade of a particular state and twist its arm through blackmail until mass hysteria and purely financial losses force the government to agree to any conditions of the political extortionists. Examples: China, 2007 — bird flu; England, 2008 — cow flu; Mexico, 2009 — swine flu.

3. Pathogen-genetic

This is a global task of vaccination, raised above the narrow political interests of individual states. Universal vaccination at an early age has a direct destructive effect on cells of the central nervous system, ensuring limitation of the child's mental development possibilities. The main active elements in the composition of widely used BCG and DTP vaccines are: mercury (kills CNS cells), formaldehyde (used for preservation of biological material, kills CNS cells fastest), crushed microgranulated aluminum powder (accumulates in the cerebral cortex, is not removed from the body, affects the CNS).

Presumably, the action of these elements is narrow-focused, affecting only certain areas of the brain and limiting only a specific list of brain capabilities. In particular, it was noted that first of all, a person loses the ability for abstract-figurative thinking and building cause-and-effect relationships, which makes the formation of a complex worldview and tracking processes in their interconnection and dynamics of development impossible. All other psychic disturbances are "side effects" and are not caused intentionally. Most frequently among these are: underdevelopment of the nervous system at an early age or its premature decay with the onset of multiple sclerosis, diffuse paralysis, encephalitis and other incurable neurological diseases of an autoimmune nature.

The System

The system of rewards for 100% vaccination and fines for every child who avoided vaccination, which is legalized and funded at the state level, has led to reckless zeal among doctors resisting any attempts by parents to shield a weakened child from receiving the vaccine, ready to vaccinate children with pronounced diathesis or high temperature for a 100-ruble bonus. The imperfection of legislation, a developed system of medical mutual cover-up, low level of awareness among broad layers of the population and general degradation of the healthcare system have created conditions of absolute impunity for medical personnel for any actions, regardless of what results they may entail.

The silencing of facts about the occurrence of mass side effects in methodological literature for epidemiologists and lies in textbooks for future staff of children's clinics, combined with propaganda in public media, ensured the creation of a general stable illusion about the benefit of vaccinations both in the medical environment and in society. The action of this illusion is so fundamental that most current low-qualified doctors truly do not understand that a flu vaccine cannot be made in principle because it constantly mutates (not in nature, but in underground laboratories). And maternity ward staff, who vaccinate children immediately in the delivery room 15 minutes after birth, without even stitching the woman, truly do not remember an elementary scientific fact taught in the 4th year of medical university: if an infant is breastfed, they cannot contract any disease for which the mother has immunity and no predisposition.

As for the mothers who carried these children with love throughout all 9 months of pregnancy and gave them up to be torn apart by the system — they are simply pitiful. Only people completely driven mad by disinformation can believe that super-toxic substances causing fatal complications are introduced into children in the first minutes of their lives for health purposes.

A child's health is in direct correspondence with the amount of fresh fruits, vegetables and fresh milk in their diet; as well as proportional to the number of days spent in the sun, in the grass and in the water. And indeed, the truth — it is as simple as always: vaccination performs no tasks in the field of health protection and cannot perform them in principle!

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«Our task is to over-exhaust them all with discord, enmity, a monstrous accumulation of lies, the inoculation of diseases, plague and need, so that the goyim (non-Jews) see no other way but to resort to our monetary and complete dominion...»
«Protocols of the Meetings of the Elders of Zion»

I am not forcing you to accept a single word, I only told it, everyone must draw their own conclusions

I want proof for all the points! And not links to unreliable sources, but original articles by scientific researchers in the field of medicine, specializing in virology, in English.

Ariputra, you answered your own question.
It's some kind of Indian epic. It's like the Tale of Bygone Times, where many heroic deeds of Prince Oleg the Seer are described, where it says that he was a sorcerer, that he went to Constantinople in 907, but official Byzantine sources don't mention it at all; he went there in 911.
An epic, a tale, and that's your argument? I find it amusing.

Or can artificial selection not occur through biological weapons aimed at destroying the population?

Do you really consider vaccinations to be biological weapons?:eek: Wouldn't it be easier to mass-eliminate everyone through the water supply?:smile52:

And one more thing.

The Teutonic Order was formed in Germany after its failures in the Holy Land and the Baltic region. In turn, the Teutons fought in Jewish lands in the 12th and 13th centuries.

Ariputra, Michael Cremo, and Richard Thompson are dubious scientists; one is a historian-philosopher who is ridiculed by everyone, and the other is a mathematician? There are very negative reviews about this book and about them. This is not scientific literature, but nonsense, fantasy.

By the way, according to some Soviet archives, AIDS was discovered by a Soviet scientist, Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov, who conducted experiments on crossbreeding monkeys and women.

Do you really think vaccines are a form of biological warfare?:eek: Wouldn't it be easier to mass-eliminate everyone through the water supply?:smile52:

Of course, biological weapons are biology textbooks, microscopes, and a biologist's glasses.

And another thing.

Oelm, Germany was formed by the Teutonic Order after failures in the Holy Land and the Baltics. In turn, the Teutons fought in the lands of the Jews in the 12th-13th centuries.

Ariputra, Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson are dubious scientists — one is a historian-philosopher everyone trashes, the other a mathematician? Very bad reviews about this book and about them personally. This is not scientific literature, but nonsense, fantasy.

By the way, according to some Soviet archives, AIDS was discovered by a Soviet scientist, Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov, who conducted experiments on crossbreeding monkeys and women.

And are your sources authoritative? Are those individuals, the historians from whom you get your information, authoritative? Not dubious?

Insulting a man who made a huge contribution to the field of archaeology, the history of ancient civilizations, and compiled a vast amount of archaeological facts is low and unworthy

You are worthless if you allow yourself to insult a man without knowing anything about him, without reading his books, just because his views don't match yours. Their views are supported by a huge number of artifacts — what are yours supported by? Name the authors of the books from which you get your information?

You shouldn't say that; in the scientific community not beholden to authorities, Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson are respected and authoritative figures!
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Here is how Michael Cremo, Richard Thompson, and their work are regarded in the scientific community:

"This book can be called a feat of researchers, and it reads like a detective novel. Only the victim is by no means an elderly rich man, and the murderer is not one of his numerous heirs. The victim of a crime committed by many scientists is Man himself. The book provides numerous pieces of evidence from the prosecution's perspective, inviting the reader to judge for themselves." Dr. Mikael Rothstein, Politiken newspaper, Denmark

"An unusually comprehensive overview of evidence regarding the origins of humanity, including that which is constantly ignored only because it does not fit the dominant doctrine." Dr. Phillip Johnson, author of "Darwin on Trial," University of California, Berkeley

"If the book gives impetus to a renewed professional study of the evidence that does not fit the official concept of human evolution, that alone would be enough to credit its authors for an important contribution to the knowledge of human history." Dr. Siegfried Scherer, biologist, Technical University of Munich, Germany

"A visually compelling exposure of attempts to conceal scientific facts… based on documentary evidence of the true origin of humanity. Combining their efforts, the researcher and the scientist have brilliantly shown how deeply entrenched prejudices have influenced the process of knowledge regarding human evolution. The richest collection of arguments and facts presented by the authors leads the reader to a rethinking of the origin and entire history of humanity. The book contains an analysis of the most important archaeological discoveries and their subsequent fate. Incorporating the results of research work spanning more than eight years, this impressive, truly scientific work challenges routine thinking." Diane Donovan, Midwest Book Review

"This book opened my eyes! I had no idea how many discoveries, how much reliable information directly contradicts modern views on human evolution… I foresee that this work will become truly classic, albeit outside official science." Dr. Virginia Steen-McIntyre, geologist

"Credit must be given to Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson for the result of their eight years of work — a unique, complete, accurate, and exhaustive collection of practically all archaeological discoveries of fossil human remains, regardless of whether they fit into established scientific theories or contradict them. To say that extremely labor-intensive, painstaking work has been done is an understatement. No other equally colossal, extensive work simply exists. This book should be mandatory study in the very first year of biology, archaeology, and anthropology departments, and in other educational institutions as well! We are talking about a rare combination of engaging readability and a strictly scientific approach… The book deserves to be the subject of the most heated discussion. To dismiss it, to ignore such work, is utterly impossible." John Davidson, writer

"This new book is a ray of light in the dark kingdom of the modern scientific establishment, which stops at nothing in its attempts to preserve the status quo. The authors expose the outrageous actions of the academic elite, their frantic attempts to bury (both figuratively and literally) evidence that threatens the status quo… The narrative about the arbitrariness of scientific bureaucrats is impressive and simultaneously depressing." Colonel W.R. Anderson, President of the Leif Ericson Society

"The hypothesis set forth in 'Forbidden Archeology' is stunning in its novelty… Your merit lies in presenting the most detailed proof of your correctness. All of us — I mean those who tried to apply scientific methods to the available archaeological data — knew the final result beforehand, but none of us was able to provide such extensive evidence as you have succeeded in doing." Gene Hunt, President of the Louisiana Archaeological Society

"Cremo and Thompson have subjected our long-established view of human origins and the process by which that view became dominant to devastating criticism. Not only its evidence, but the scientific methods used to obtain that evidence are now called into question… Such a detailed exposition of the flawed methodology for dating flint tools, broken bones, and skeletal fragments may not be the most thrilling reading, but the polemical techniques used by the authors give the book entertainment value." Steve Moore, Fortean Times

"If we imagine the history of humanity as a giant museum containing all knowledge in this field, it turns out that several halls of this museum are locked. By the will of scientists, those facts that contradict generally accepted historical concepts are kept under lock and key. Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson have managed to obtain the keys to many locked doors, letting both ordinary visitors and the scientists themselves into the secret halls. The latter were no less shocked than the former, which is quite understandable. After all, 'Forbidden Archeology' significantly expands the boundaries of the kingdom of science, while simultaneously calling into question many seemingly unshakeable views on humanity and its history." Walter Langbein, PARA magazine, Austria

"Recently I read an astonishing book by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson, which I found not only extremely thorough but, above all, intellectually captivating. The depth of research is truly impressive. I myself have devoted almost 30 years of my life to meticulous research precisely in this field and can state without hesitation that I have never encountered a more convincing, truly encyclopedic collection of 'anomalous' archaeological discoveries." Rock Calais, collector and researcher of evidence of ancient human history

"To gather in one, albeit very voluminous, book the entire spectrum of information about the origin and ancient history of humanity — such a task is not within everyone's capabilities. I express my gratitude for this magnificent reference book, which will serve as an impetus for new research in an area of colossal interest not only to scientists and students but also to the general public." Dr. K.N. Prasad, former Director of the All-India Center for Geological Surveys, former President of the Indian Archaeological Society

"I am confident that this scrupulous scientific work on a topic highly worthy of attention will become truly classic and go through many reprints." Dr. Jean Burns, physicist

"Being a model of scrupulous scientific approach and at the same time bold flight of thought, this work touches upon the sphere of constructing 'scientific' facts and theories — precisely the area that has recently seen growing interest from historians, philosophers, and sociologists researching the methodology of scientific knowledge… Subjecting the history of paleoanthropological discoveries to meticulous analysis, Cremo and Thompson focus their attention on the epistemological crisis of research into ancient human bone remains, the forced suppression of facts, and the situational attitude towards 'anomalous evidence.' On this basis, the authors build a convincing scientific theory, supported by equally convincing evidence." Dr. Pierce Flynn, sociologist, California State University San Marcos

"Your 'groundbreaking' work gave me true enjoyment… I wish you every success in your daring endeavors to rethink traditional postulates." Dr. Roger Wescott, President of the International Society for the Comparative Study of Civilizations

"Having recently read your book, I want to congratulate and thank its authors… I am especially grateful to you for exposing the disinformation spread by the bureaucratized scientific elite." Thomas Dorman, MD, Member of the Royal College of Physicians (UK)

"Magnificent work, congratulations. Thank you for such a wonderful source of knowledge." Dr. George Carter, archaeologist

"This book, intended for both specialists and a wide range of readers, will undoubtedly become an epoch-making work in the literature devoted to human evolution. A talentedly presented, freely written fruit of scrupulous research… encourages the reader to further study the 'forbidden history of humanity.'" Laurie Erbs, staff member, Biological Library, Forestry Sciences Laboratory, USDA Forest Service, Juneau, Alaska

"An amazing, stunningly daring work! Accept my congratulations." Dr. Bennett Jules-Rosette, Professor of Sociology, University of California, San Diego

"This book is an inspiring example of unconventional thinking. The authors adhere to an interdisciplinary approach to the study of human history. Indeed, the existing questions in this field require the combined efforts of archaeologists, historians, sociologists, philosophers, religious scholars, and specialists from other branches of science. The efforts of many involved in such research have only exacerbated the uncertainty regarding various aspects of this problem. The authors of 'Forbidden Archeology' remind us of the inadmissibility of a simplistic approach to such conceptually complex concepts as 'fact' and 'phenomenon', on the basis of which conclusions are drawn." Gene Sager, Professor of Philosophy, Palomar College, California

"Michael Cremo, a specialist in the history and philosophy of science, and mathematician Richard Thompson have challenged the dominant view on the origin and ancient history of humanity. The authors of the book, containing a vast amount of both generally accepted and controversial archaeological evidence, critique existing scientific methodology from sociological, philosophical, and historical perspectives, call dominant views into question, denounce attempts to conceal information about the origin and history of humanity." Archaeological Review

"A comprehensive, strictly scientific selection and analysis of available data on this topic. The evidence presented in the book may be accepted or rejected, but it is absolutely clear that it cannot be ignored." David Heppel, Department of Natural History, Royal Museum of Scotland

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"Your book is perfect nonsense, and only a complete idiot would take it seriously. Unfortunately, such individuals do exist, but that's just a matter of natural selection, and nothing can be done about it." Anthropologist Richard Leakey

"Required reading for those interested in so-called popular anthropology for laymen. A veritable collection of absurd fabrications." Jonathan Marks, American Journal of Physical Anthropology

"To claim that the modern type of man… arose much earlier, in fact, when even his distant ancestors — simple primates — did not exist, means not merely to question generally accepted views, but to deny the theory of evolution as such." W.W. Howells, physical anthropologist