Town Points – Is development becoming too formulaic? — General

Night

20 years ago

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Magnus

No points, no problems. :) ;) I don't understand this new feature. We lived without it, and we played happily from Heroes 1 to Heroes 4 ;) :) (inclusive);) :) ;) :)

No points - no problems. No resources - no problems. No heroes - no problems. No town - well, so be it, at least there are no problems...

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Magnus

20 years ago

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Night

No points - no problems. No resources - no problems. No heroes - no problems. No town - well, that's fine, at least there are no problems...

Well, it's not that categorical:) I just want to say why they started all this. Everything was fine before.

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Pearl

20 years ago

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Xaker

Are you afraid you'll make the wrong choice?:rolleyes:
I think you'll decide soon.:D

No, not really. I just don't care about the development right now.
I just want the new Heroes game to come out soon.

I've got a secret that i think you ought to know,
The happy people are the ones who have a soul.

I'm complicated
and i celebrate it!

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Night

20 years ago

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Magnus

Well, it's not that categorical:) I just want to know why they started all this. Everything was fine before.

Why reinvent the wheel, right...? Although, maybe it's not that bad...
P.S. Magnus, make up your mind about a color, Mr. Rainbow:)

Pearl

No, it's not. I just don't care about the development right now.
I just want the new Heroes game to be released sooner.

Yeah! And if the developers hadn't been making changes, we would have been playing Heroes V already:)

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Magnus

20 years ago

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Night

Why reinvent the wheel, right...? Although, maybe it's already been done...
P.S. Magnus, make up your mind about the color, Mr. Rainbow:)

To make it easier to move around on the ground. :D And there's no advantage in points. One step back, or two steps, or ten :D on the evolutionary ladder:(
And I don't know what color to choose:(, I'm torn between nature and Conflux:)

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Night

20 years ago

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Magnus

To make it easier to move around the map. :D And there's no advantage in points. One step back, two steps, or ten :D on the evolutionary ladder :(
And I don't know what color to choose :( I'm torn between nature and Conflux :)

You yourself said that we shouldn't stagnate with the Heroes, we need to introduce new things, as you know in which part :)
P.S. Choose Dark Red:)

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Magnus

20 years ago

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Night

I myself said that you shouldn't stick with the old Heroes, you need to introduce something new, as you know, in which part:)
P.S. Choose Dark Red:)

Yes, if this new thing is useful. For example, as I've said many times, Heroes 4 is useful because you can form armies without a hero, or you can give a hero a mixed class, and I also really liked the magic there. Of course, it's bad that they made the buildings for dwellings and monsters separate :(
P/s thank you :) for the suggested option:)

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Night

20 years ago

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Magnus

Yes, if the new feature is useful. For example, in Heroes 4, as I've said many times, it's helpful to be able to form armies without a hero, or to give a hero a mixed class. Also, I really liked the magic system there, although it's a shame that they split the building types for dwellings and monsters :(
P/s Thanks :) for the suggested option:)

Well, you can get used to the points system, just like you can get used to the split building types, and then it will seem like a normal thing. Or maybe they will use the points system in future installments, and then it will become a habit:

ВОРОН

20 years ago

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Well, guys, you're really something.

I won't say anything against it. I've already written too much about these drawbacks and others.
Why wait for everything to fail, for everything to be bad, even if YOU, and only YOU, know the only right way? Expect good things!!! :)
Aren't we just engaging in demagoguery?

I'll say one thing with pleasure.

Best of health to you, guys.

Extra health to you, Pearl. :)

С Уважением, ВОРОН из сибирской деревни. :)

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Vlad

20 years ago

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Come on, guys, these points aren't a big deal!

С уважением, Vlad

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Enot

20 years ago

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Gentlemen, you're simply panicking here over points ;-)))))))
Points don't spoil the game at all and they don't make development own-type, so relax and don't worry so much :-)
As for why they were introduced—count the number of buildings in a Castle in 3, and count them in 5; I think there will be about one and a half times more in the latter.
That is why town points were introduced, to prevent severe imbalances in building the castle, while still leaving plenty of development options. Meaning, you won't have "carbon copy" castle builds. Previously, to build a level 6 monster, as a rule, you had to build monsters 4-5, and for them, in turn, 1-2.... Now such a restriction is practically absent, and this is compensated by points. Before, when you clicked on building dragons in the city plan at the start of the game, the requirements included monster buildings levels 1-6 and 2 mages guilds; now it's simpler—for example, 15 town points and a castle. IMHO the new system is not worse; play it and you'll see for yourselves.

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Katrine

20 years ago

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Enot

They introduced it for this reason – count the number of buildings in a castle in the third game, and count it in the fifth game; I think there will be about one and a half times more in the latter.

AUTHOR, should I give you some poison? There are the same number of buildings. And by the way, 15 Town Points are not enough to build Titans. There are also prerequisites in the form of buildings.:D

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Vlad

20 years ago

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Katrine

AUTHOR, should I give you some advice? There are so many buildings. And by the way, 15 Town Points won't be enough to build Titans. There are also prerequisites in the form of buildings.:D

BUT wasn't this the case in Heroes of Might and Magic III????

С уважением, Vlad

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Enot

20 years ago

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to Katrine
Just off the top of my head – Necropolis in Heroes 3 has 19 buildings, and in Heroes 5, it has 24. To build Bone Dragons, you need 15 Town Points and a Castle; to build, for example, Liches, you need 2 buildings and 9 Town Points; for the banshees, you need 1 building and 12 Town Points. What exactly you build – these 9, 12, or 15 Town Points – is up to you. That is, you can build Liches without building a SINGLE other monster building.
And now are we going to complain that the building system has become monotonous?
P.S. Keep the poison for yourself; you might need it. :D

Uke-by_HoMM![Zавулон]

20 years ago

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Yeah, the forum looks more like a marketplace! They've latched onto the point system! But it actually adds more tactics and variety to the building process. Before, I always developed using an old, well-established scheme, and I had another one as a backup. If there wasn't enough money for a necessary building, I had to skip a turn, but now I can build something else, and that won't hurt you in any way. Nival doesn't do anything spontaneously; if they introduced this, it means they tested it many times! And some people think it's useless just because it wasn't there before.

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