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In reply to KillerVampire
13 years ago
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KillerVampire
The show should be only online – a recording just isn't the same!

Maybe you didn't understand. The commentator will host the show online, but the game itself will be played from a recording. Many do this now because there's no way to do a live broadcast or something else. We could analyze very old games if we only had recordings from both sides.
This simply eliminates the problem of stream synchronization. Anyone who has tried to stream from two perspectives must have encountered this problem: one person's turn is already over, while the other hasn't even started, or, worse, the opposite: one person's turn hasn't ended yet, but the other is already taking their turn...
In reply to Wicc
13 years ago
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Wicc

I'm afraid 500-800 rupees won't be enough to motivate good players.
Well, why not? ATG was a hit for 150 rubles.
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13 years ago
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Here's the idea: we take a tournament; we require players to provide streams; we add 2-3 good re-streamers who will host streams from both sides; we post wallet numbers in the regulations. People play, streams happen almost every day, money slowly accumulates, not immediately into someone's pocket, but into a third-party wallet. The closer to the final, the more intense the competition becomes, maybe even those who have already been eliminated will chip in 10 rubles. By the final, a certain amount accumulates, while the final is being played, a little more is added, and in the end, the winner and the streamers share everything that has been collected (the prize ratios can be adjusted).
Free streams and motivation. The main thing is that the tournament is lively.
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13 years ago
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Perhaps we could start by posting an anonymous poll to see who has payment cards/capabilities.
For example, I don't have any and I've never used them.
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13 years ago
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Samurai

My personal opinion is that all streams should be made paid; it would be a kind of intellectual property of the player who is streaming.

Lol. Did you purchase a licensed copy of Heroes? Did you obtain a license for the software you are using to stream?
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13 years ago
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Satir
Lol. Did you purchase a licensed copy of Heroes? Do you have a license for the software you use for streaming?
Satir, don't worry about it. Almost everyone has a licensed copy of Heroes ;)
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13 years ago
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Captain
Satyr, don't give up.
Almost everyone has a legitimate copy of the game ;)

Yeah, everyone has a legitimate copy, downloaded from a torrent.
13 years ago
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No, I don't think it's necessary – there are actually plenty of good players who could do two-sided commentaries. The quality of such restreaming, in my opinion, largely depends on the commentators – few people can properly explain all the moves of pro players. I was thinking about doing a restream of some microgames myself about a week ago – I chose 2-3 of the most interesting games, there were microgames available, but unfortunately, I didn't have time to start before the beginning – and I didn't want to restream games from the 13th, so finding the streams themselves isn't a problem, the problem is catching them in time. I think that creating some kind of closed section where the approximate start time and stream numbers of players would be posted would be a big boost. But you can't force people to do this, and instilling such a culture takes too long. Some enthusiast could certainly take on this task (asking players in private messages when they have roughly agreed on a time, and then posting the numbers and updating them). But, in my opinion, enthusiasm won't last long. Although, for example, during the World Championship, many games were restreamed in two-sided commentary thanks to Sticky. I would also like as many players as possible to do streams. You can easily do your own things in parallel – just switch the scene in XSplit, for example. And for streaming Heroes, 800x600 resolution is enough with a dual-core processor 2.5 GHz+. I (and I think many others) can help set up the stream.
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13 years ago
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The most important question remains unaddressed. Would people be willing to pay for high-quality games from established creators? Perhaps the audience would balk at paying for something they see for free every day. For the average user, it doesn't really matter whether it's SevenSan or Alex the Great.

Another very relevant question is how people will pay for this entertainment. If there's an interesting game scheduled for tomorrow, I won't rush to find a way to top up my WebMoney account. Or, if the game is in a week, is it worth paying if I don't even know if I'll be able to watch it?
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13 years ago
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Dirty_Player
For the average user, it doesn't really matter whether it's SevenSan or Alex the Great.

SevenSan skillfully humiliated him :D
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13 years ago
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Satyr
Sevensana was skillfully humiliated :D
And who is this?

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We can rephrase the question: how much are the organizers of the broadcast willing to pay me as a viewer for spending my time and watching their stream, thereby increasing their revenue from advertising placed on their website during the broadcast?

In my opinion, this idea is even more utopian than having Heroes of Might and Magic III at the World Cyber Games.
Even the WCG doesn't charge the end viewer for watching the finals. Earning money from advertising is a different matter. Although, that is also quite difficult.
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13 years ago
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Guys, this is a goldmine!)) The idea is great, and I'm ready to participate, either as a commentator or as a viewer. The main thing is to achieve the ideal price/quality ratio for the audience. I wouldn't mind paying 50 rubles for a high-quality show. And also, to attract the maximum number of viewers, I think the games should be held on SoD, not VT – it's too niche.
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13 years ago
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Ihtiandr
VT – too narrow a niche.

You shouldn't have said that.
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13 years ago
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ariputra
you shouldn't have said that

I didn't say it with the intention of starting another shitstorm over SoD vs VT. It's just that for a person who doesn't play Heroes online and has paid money for the stream, it would be quite unpleasant to see a broadcast of VT—a modification they might not even know about. All of this, naturally, is aimed at the masses, in order to attract as many viewers as possible and, accordingly, more money. If the target is the local audience, then of course VT is fine.
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13 years ago
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The idea is good, it's just a shame that the very fact of the broadcast distracts from the game. I'm willing to contribute, maybe I'll even decide to participate.

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