Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.

Take at least the last game with Sevensan in "All for One" on Jebus Cross and watch "Vigo's" actions after moving onto the sand - he goes as the main hero into the darkness off-road toward the only Dragon Utopia straight there without scouting and finds chocolate.

Yes... this is how either a complete newbie, who doesn't understand where he's going or why, or someone who clearly knows where he's going and why, might behave.

You can post a question on the forum about the illegitimacy of the AC. If the forum doesn't trust our actions, then what's the point of having an AC?

There's a password to access it, but I'd like to take a look!

The thing is, there was one piece of evidence. A photo with a date, from the Phoenix gathering, where Vitalik was present, but Vigo wasn't, and Vigo had a game on that day. It's extremely difficult to reconstruct this, very difficult. In principle, it would be possible to try to do it if we knew for sure that everyone who made the decision about Vigo, both here and on the Portal, would first offer official apologies after this photo is presented, and then go and serve the punishment that was given to Vigo.

It's okay. I don't want to make anyone the butt of a joke, but there was a case when Vigo was playing, and Vitalik was at a meeting with a lot of people (I just don't know if they took pictures there), and someone said that Vitalik was playing the game instead of Vigo. Probably, he was transmitting the moves telepathically.

I might have been on a business trip, Vitalik wrote down what I said because we needed to report, and time was running out, so I wouldn't have been at the computer for a while. Vitalik is my friend, I asked him, and he did it. But that doesn't mean he's playing games for me!

I was strongly urged to speak out here, but I thought it unnecessary to voice any conjectures without arguments, and there are players more competent than I to deal with saves. However, regarding the point mentioned by invisibull, I decided to tell about my own example, although it's quite dated. This happened during a money tournament here on the portal; I managed to make it far, even knocking Vasya out of the bay, and to get to the cash prizes, only one opponent remained, who turned out to be Vigo. I had played with him once before and won without much trouble, so I was quite confident in the result myself and was the clear favorite according to predictions. But suddenly, in the money tournament, he showed a completely different level of play with me than before, and I was crushed 2-0. Moreover, in the first game there was an extremely negative moment: it seemed like everything was going great for me, I had built up perfectly with my signature Barbarian and took my native secondary creatures, when suddenly, out of nowhere, in the middle of the second week, the opponent suggests playing the match to 1 victory instead of 2. I prudently refuse, and as it turned out, he had a Pandora's box with 60!! of his shooters lying by his Castle, and in addition, a Conservatory, a Hive, and a teleport right next to me. He was already standing there with this whole set at the exit of the teleport, clearly knowing the outcome, and since my situation should have inspired optimism in me, he made such a "noble" offer. And in the second game, I was beaten without a chance by very high-quality play from the opponent, completely unlike what was seen in the seasonal. Immediately after these games, I developed a strong suspicion that I was playing against vitalic back then, or if it was Vigo himself, then under his guidance. What's most interesting is that the winner of our pair in the quarterfinals faced... vitalic! And Vigo, after passing me, announced in the thread that he was forfeiting to vitalic without playing, as he did not consider himself entitled to play against his teacher. More than strange reasoning if this isn't just handing the win to the person who put him there. But naturally, I had no proof; I couldn't claim such a thing without evidence. But it turns out others are sure of similar things, so most likely my impressions back then were correct.

As it turns out, the obligations for this tournament have still not been fulfilled. Well, consider me personally scammed out of 1000 USD. Thanks to the team members who will help solve this problem.
Sir Vigo's profile is blocked. Write to me, I will urgently pay out the prizes.
Sorry for the delay.
I hope for your understanding.

...Vitalic ran the tournaments, Lady Asha handled the ratings and the rules...
But not everything was so simple. Literally a couple or three months later, I began to doubt vitalic. Specifically him, and not the correctness of the decision to support his candidacy. Suddenly, Vigo appeared in the Magistrate. He got in through vitalic's patronage and won over the High One by promising to run a tournament with a large prize pool. I won't say how else he won over Gorbik, and why Vigo—having run not a single tournament and having only one scandalous tournament behind him—stayed in the Magistrate for another year after its conclusion. Immediately after the tournament opened, both I and Gorbik received warnings that the tournament would be a sham, would lower the Portal's authority in the heroes' world, and the money simply wouldn't be paid. I forwarded these messages to the High One, but... And then it really started... I think many remember what was happening there. Disgusting refereeing, scrubbing posts, banning players. Moreover, this happened in the majority of cases in matches in which either Vigo himself or vitalic participated...
...............
...And here I'm f***ing shocked for the third time... Just at the moment when the prize winners of that ill-fated tournament start posting on Bay and on our Portal that they received their prizes, Gorbik writes to me. Oleg, so and so, vitalic contacted me and says that he also didn't receive his prizes from Vigo in the amount of 200 dollars. And writes: I need to be paid them too. I was simply in shock.

I don't participate in tournaments often; give me a chance to take part in qualifying games; I will try my best!

vitalic (12:51:21 8/12/2008)
then let's make a substitution, we’ll put Aladdin in, and let him tear everyone up; there is no hope for LeBron

Neoandy (12:51:31 8/12/2008)
who is Aladdin?

vitalic (12:51:58 8/12/2008)
he plays normally but rarely; he asked to be included in the team

Neoandy (12:52:17 8/12/2008)
there isn't much information about this...

vitalic (12:52:39 8/12/2008)
I believe him as I believe myself - do these words give you any ideas?

Neoandy (12:52:40 8/12/2008)
it's a crucial moment

Neoandy (12:52:47 8/12/2008)
they do

Neoandy (12:52:52 8/12/2008)
have you played with him?

Neoandy (12:52:56 8/12/2008)
what is his level?

Neoandy (12:53:03 8/12/2008)
you say he doesn't play much

Neoandy (12:53:11 8/12/2008)
maybe he has forgotten how to play?

vitalic (12:54:20 8/12/2008)
this is my account; I created it to check the honesty of some players

Neoandy (12:54:32 8/12/2008)
Alladin?

vitalic (12:54:37 8/12/2008)
yes

Neoandy (12:54:39 8/12/2008)
hmm

.............

vitalic (11:14:31 12/12/2008)
in the cup tournament, take a player instead of the declared paladin

Neoandy (11:14:57 12/12/2008)
instead of the paladin?

vitalic (11:15:08 12/12/2008)
instead of Alladin

Neoandy (11:15:18 12/12/2008)
aaa

vitalic (11:15:38 12/12/2008)
let him fight - Aladdin doesn't seem to want to play yet

Neoandy (11:15:44 12/12/2008)
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vitalic (11:16:22 12/12/2008)
and about the Interportal Tournament – what was decided?

Neoandy (11:18:04 12/12/2008)
LeBron will finish playing with Vasya

Neoandy (11:18:08 12/12/2008)
I talked to him

vitalic (11:18:36 12/12/2008)
:-(oh, I would have liked to play with Vasya

vitalic (12:54:20 8/12/2008)
this is my account; I created it to check the honesty of some players

Many players write reports for each other, both about wins and losses. It happened that someone specifically asked someone else, like "write it," there are such posts on HeroesWorld, I won't look for them now and go through pages of reports from 5 years :(

The draw system:
Stage I – all participants are divided into 3 groups, where they play in a group system in one round (there are 7 players in each group). The players who take the first two places in the group advance to the second stage.
Stage II – 6 players (those who took the first two places in each group) play 4 rounds (the result of the game between the players who took the first and second places in Stage I is carried over to the second stage).

Added: 04/12/2009 00:21
Vigoboy (blue, Dungeon, Shakti) def Sir Cheban (red, Castle, Tiris) 2sm4d(3) 215

Up to turn 124, I was definitely playing against Sir Vigoboy; I observed him in the tavern and the column gave me some insight into Shakti's secondary skills and I didn't notice any "super-duper gameplay" that masters usually demonstrate.
On turn 124, Shakti's parameters were 3312; level 4 (1000 experience points gained in the column); troops were not transferred to the battle; Shakti fought alone, no one fought from the outposts; there were no strong blocks, so Shakti was not trapped (as Sir Vigoboy himself wrote); income 1850; cats in the castle, but without minor artifacts; basic attack and earth, expert tactics
On turn 124, Tiris' parameters were 5518, level 7; income 3125; horses in the stronghold (upgrade in the stable next to the castle), wyverns in the fortress; expert leadership and tactics, advanced earth (there is a book, slow is also available)
I decided to rush, but on turn 124, we saved based on the opponent's initiative, and I was spotted in the metro 1-2 turns away from the dungeon (I think the opponent saw this). After the save, we couldn't finish the game for a long time, although Sir Vigoboy found time with other opponents, and I wrote in the chat and in the topic, indicating the time of the game (this was a weekend and evening in Moscow time). Finally, I caught him in the chat and offered to play, but he wanted to start a game with someone else (Sir Chemist) and refused to play with me.

412201154 (11:09:46 5/04/2009)
hello
let's play

Vigoboy (11:12:20 5/04/2009)
hello, I just agreed with Chemist, let's meet after lunch

412201154 (11:12:31 5/04/2009)
ok

412201154 (11:23:32 5/04/2009)
we can finish now, Chemist doesn't mind, he said that it's more important for us

Vigoboy (11:25:29 5/04/2009)
that's not fair! I wanted to play a new game now, I was ready :-(

I wrote to Sir Chemist:

412201154 (11:19:07 5/04/2009)
hello, are you playing with Vigoboy

Chemist (11:19:54 5/04/2009)
we haven't started yet, but you can play with him, you need it more)

Chemist (11:20:46 5/04/2009)
we agreed to play in 30 minutes, so if anything, you can play with him

412201154 (11:21:29 5/04/2009)
you have a save

412201154 (11:21:36 5/04/2009)
or the whole game

Chemist (11:21:49 5/04/2009)
no, I have a restart, but we can start from scratch

Chemist (11:22:41 5/04/2009)
so, go ahead and agree with him, because I need to run to the store, so I know if I should hurry)

412201154 (11:22:54 5/04/2009)
ok

Although our game was started (turn 124 – save) and it could have decided everything at once, and Sir Vigoboy knew all my efforts to finish the game so that in case I advanced, I would fight in another round (the battles had already started there), but there was a refusal even after the game with Sir Chemist.

Vigoboy (16:41:42 5/04/2009)
hooray, I won!

412201154 (16:42:18 5/04/2009)
congratulations, but let's continue ours

Vigoboy (16:42:47 5/04/2009)
yes, but I need to walk the dog and do my homework first

412201154 (16:43:08 5/04/2009)
when can you

Vigoboy (16:43:34 5/04/2009)
I don't know, I don't have parents around yet, I'll do everything now and knock on your door

412201154 (16:43:49 5/04/2009)
okay

And an hour later, I waited for Sir Vigoboy, and he was with his father, Sir Vigo (well, this is my assumption, because I don't have a video camera). I was near the castle on turn 125, taking away his secondary skills, leaving him with only 850 per day, well, I thought I would gradually strangle him by pulling troops. And then a completely tactically грамотная and calculated game began from the opponent, they built up chains, the outposts started to take away money near the castle, Shakti immediately took 4 nagas and managed to return all the troops to the castle and start the Shakti rush, killing my outposts. Of course, I don't have enough experience in such situations in these games; if someone from the masters was in my place in such a situation, Vigo wouldn't have helped. But I didn't immediately focus on this because there was an advantage, and I thought I would put pressure on him, so we sat like this for 1.5 weeks. The opponent gave up the castle, bought what he could, and ran away from me to the treasure, capturing 2 angels from the outpost near the secondary skills. I had most of the map open, and I could only watch, observe, and learn how skillfully and mockingly the master was dealing with me.

Added: 04/12/2009 12:57
After talking with both sides, they came to a mutual decision that the victory in the disputed game would be awarded to Sir Cheban. This incident is now resolved, and the discussion about it is closed.

And an hour later, I waited for Sir Vigoboy, and he was with his father, Sir Vigo (well, this is my assumption...