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13 years ago
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I disagree here; obviously, if you are playing with someone you know at least within the game world, generally speaking, someone whose word you wouldn't doubt—but with a guy you've never seen, from another resource, with a "foggy" reputation... and even in the case of "one of your own," how many misclicks or deviations will it take before you're done. I believe tournament play is tournament play; there were times when I entered Dragon Utopia with 1 bone because I wasn't used to the HD mod version where the hero swap after exchanging armies changed... then I left—thanks for the game.
If you don't trust them, there is absolutely no point in playing offline (meaning if not in a club at the next computer under the supervision of onlookers).
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13 years ago
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It's a bit clumsily worded, but I understood your point. I thought you were talking about it in general... but in a LAN setting, it would be silly not to allow it.
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It's written a bit awkwardly, but I understood the point.
Thanks for being so understanding. But if you're such an incredibly correct writer, maybe you can explain to me, the simpleton, what this means:
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and on LAN.
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13 years ago
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"on LAN" - LAN (Local Area Network), playing over a network via a network cable, gaming arcades (note).
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"on LAN" - LAN stands for Local Area Network, referring to playing over a network via a network cable, or in gaming centers (note).
I'm speechless. Or is it unclear that Hamachi is a full-fledged replacement for a local network over the internet?
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13 years ago
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I also don't understand how you can put a casual game on the same level as a tournament. You play a casual game just to have fun, that's why you have auto-saves and can restart the game 100 times. But in a tournament – I'm sorry, you need to use your restarts thoughtfully. If you didn't find the chocolate, confirm the loss.

Someone says that "claiming a win on turn 111 isn't heroic." But in my opinion, begging for a Priest or an auto-win is not heroic either. If the opponent offers it himself, then take it, but if he doesn't, then confirm the loss. Although, personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing that I formally lost, and then playing for a win and, in case of victory, submitting a report. And since I can't allow myself to do that, the opponent shouldn't either. In my opinion, ethics are different for everyone.

The reasoning is correct in relation to chocolate/no chocolate, but the conclusions are in relation to block/no block. That's how it is.
Ethics cannot be different for everyone; each situation has details and nuances that shape the final decision. According to the rules, it's one thing, according to ethics, it's another. If they ask for an auto-win in a situation where the probability of it happening is the same as yours, and you don't give it, then what kind of ethics are we talking about? Hooray! Thank God it wasn't me who got unlucky!
And if you give it, then why worry that they won't give it to you or that they'll post a victory?
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I'm simply speechless. Or is it unclear that Hamachi is a full-fledged replacement for a LAN connection over the internet?
Can you tell the difference between playing with Hamachi and playing with someone sitting two meters away from you? Don't be an idiot.
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Can you tell the difference between a rude player and someone just playing a game with a person sitting two meters away from them? Don't be an idiot.
Hmm, dear sir, a player in a local multiplayer game is usually much further than two meters away from you. Please stop being an idiot yourself.
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13 years ago
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Something about Zenit was said here:D In reality, the line between ethics, humanity, fairness, and other synonymous concepts in such situations is very blurred and intertwined. There can't be any 100% truth about this, as each person has their own understanding, views, and principles, and ultimately, their mood at the time of such situations. That's why distinctions are created for such cases, so as not to lump everything together. A friendly match is a friendly match (where a match with 7 substitutions, where both auto-play and everything else is normal). Let's take Tournaments. What is a tournament? It's a competition, and in any competition, the result is the most important thing. In any competition, it is necessary to determine a winner **WITHIN THE RULES OF THE TOURNAMENT.** Any victory within these rules should be considered fair. No one is to blame for mistakes, misclicks, and other cases, except for the player themselves. Why blame the opponent for your own mistakes, for the randomness, for morality, for giving up the generator? Everyone who registers for a tournament understands that many matches can end one-sided, but the opponent is not to blame for this. And a game reset should be given if it is provided for in the tournament rules. You need to not only be able to play, but also to lose if the winner has not violated the rules of the game.
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13 years ago
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Hmm, esteemed sir, a player in a LAN game is usually much closer than 2 meters away from you. Please stop being obtuse.
Whether it's 2 meters or 10, the point isn't that.
Someone wrote "on LAN" - I explained what the person meant, and you're starting to act smart.
Should we ban you again for a year?
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13 years ago
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All the evil is in the template; only on Jebus Cross could such a situation arise where both are right :D

I suggest that in the future, decisive matches be played only on mm6..
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2 meters or 10 – it doesn't really matter.
Someone wrote "on LAN" – I explained what the person meant, and you start acting smart.
Maybe you need to be banned again for a year?
I can't respond to provocations as I'd like, and I can't just say what I think. The points system won't allow it. But I think if I repeat that being rude is a perfectly acceptable substitute for a LAN party online, I won't get points deducted for it. I hope so.
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13 years ago
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and they just spammed :eek: I don't even feel like reading all this... here, Pit will come and restore order:smile10:
If it were up to me, I would have already deleted everything:smile18:
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13 years ago
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I remember a game of Vic vs. Dubrovin on Jebus Cross: Vic had a decent setup, but overestimating his capabilities, he threw the game down to zero around turn 112 or 113 (I watched the stream) — gritting his teeth, Yura keeps playing; when asked what the point is, he gives a roundabout answer about where we could go. On turn 114, Dubrovin writes that he surrenders: he also threw the game, but his nerves turned out to be weaker.


No... it's not about nerves... it's about assessing the prospects... Yura had a Hydra for the next turn, which he would use to take the Hive... while I, having thrown the game, saw no prospects without an Army.
13 years ago
30.11.2012 Maretti (red, tower, aine, drakon) def Medium (blue, stronghold, hack) 146 on mini nostalgica

Got 110 gremlins from a box so early week 2 I had 290 and exp earth, so I could take out a full con. Got boots and stabels and went for the block with 9angels and full army. 131 I could take his town and prevent him from getting his production. Now the game got really long, we both emptied alot of t-areas. In the end I was very tired and just wanted to end the game, so I showed him what I had (angelic alliance, golden bow, red orb and the health combo, 10 aas, 71 monarcs, 7 behemoths (wanted to upgrade them but built cyclops instead by mistake) and full tower army) and he gave up.
Thanks for playing.

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