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Offline Leolopus
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It's clear that there are at least 3 options:
1. Based on the rating on the resource for tournaments held over the past year.
2. Based on the personal whim of the organizers/judges.
3. A combination of the first and second options.
Do you have any other suggestions?
P.S. I'm glad you've stopped using the formal "you" – it was a bit awkward, thank you.
1. So, those who didn't participate in tournaments over the past year, or participated but, for various reasons, couldn't show significant results, are, in effect, already outcasts or have slim chances of participating in your tournament? This smells like unjustified discrimination based on gaming skills. Considering all sorts of ratings is possible, let's say, during the draw, with the presence of qualifying groups for "advanced" and "beginners," but not as a criterion for selection for participation or non-participation in tournaments.
2. There will be no personal whim of the organizers/judges.
3. Read points 1 and 2.
P.S. You can communicate on "you" much more politely than on "you."
I have expressed my opinion; I still advise you to adjust the tournament mechanics so that everyone who wants to can participate in it, regardless of past and present achievements. I think this is possible if you want.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Why is the discrimination considered "unjustified"? It seems justified based on the results shown over the year – I don't see a reason to use the words "unjustified discrimination." The opinion lacks constructive input – I would like to hear constructive suggestions in addition to criticism, rather than just the suggestion to only play Swiss-system tournaments with playoffs and nothing else.
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Why is the discrimination considered "unjustified"? It is, in fact, justified by the results shown over the year – I don't see a reason to use the words "unjustified discrimination." The opinion doesn't contain any constructive input – I would like to hear constructive suggestions in addition to criticism, rather than just the suggestion to only play Swiss-system tournaments with playoffs and nothing else.
We could continue to practice the art of discussion for a long time, but I think it's enough for us to understand each other. The tournament will be launched on the condition that absolutely everyone who wants to participate is given equal access. This is the only condition. The structure of the tournament is not important.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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I'm not a big fan of playing with just one faction. However, if it were a team tournament with random factions and a similar format: first, captains are chosen (preferably mid-level players), then they draft players in turn, and after that, we play with that setup: the first player on each team plays the first player on the opposing team, and so on, for 5-6 rounds – that would be a good idea.
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By the way, it's a good idea. We just need to figure out how to choose the captains – probably by drawing lots based on the rating. And then, a draft.
The number of players can also be quite arbitrary (as long as it's a multiple of 3/4/5).
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I'm not a fan of playing with just one faction. However, if it were a team tournament with random factions and a similar format: first, captains are chosen (preferably mid-level players), then they take turns picking players for their teams, and then we play with that setup: the first board plays against the first board, and so on, for 5-6 rounds. That's a good idea.
This idea is much more interesting, but I don't see how it relates to the original proposal for a "themed" tournament.
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General - it's a team tournament, so there are many participants and few rounds (not much in common, but it suits me).
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I support Mozych's idea, but with teams of 4, it would be even more interesting. Stages: Registration Selection of 4 captains from among the strongest Team formation from the remaining players (a player can refuse one captain's offer, but must accept the second offer). This condition will help balance the teams. Then, seeding of players within the team. First, 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, 4-4 play. Then 1-2, 2-1, 3-4, 4-3 play. In total, there will be 6 games. And the 2 strongest teams play the final round.
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Could one of the admins or moderators open a thread for team tournament applications? And will Kill_ana_Action, the regular organizer, run it when she returns from vacation?
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Well, Kill might be able to open it himself if it's not relevant without him. Although, to be honest, I didn't quite understand what you're talking about, what needs to be opened.
 

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Could one of the admins or mods open a thread for team tournament applications? And will the regular organizer Kill_ana_Action run it when he gets back from vacation?
I spoke with Alex_nv on ICQ the same evening the tournament idea was launched and gave him the go-ahead to open the tournament thread, or at least the registration for it. I myself am an organizer of tournaments on HeroesWorld, but since I was on an extended vacation, I haven't yet delved into all the details :)
I could open the thread, but opening a thread without specifying the tournament structure probably wouldn't be quite right. To reiterate, Alex_nv received permission to open a registration thread for the team tournament, so all questions should be directed to him.
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Come on, while you're still deciding, I'll be long gone!
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By the way, it's a good idea. We just need to figure out how to choose the captains – probably by drawing lots or using a rating-based criterion. And then, a draft.
I think choosing the captains is very simple. Select players who have played the most games and know many others well (or, like me, are not known at all). Let them choose players in order. Let the Tournament Committee (AK) select a few more candidates than needed. Then, somehow, draw lots among them))) Or put each one in a poll, like "Yes" or "No," and have those who registered for the tournament vote. Whoever gets the most votes becomes the captain.
It would be more interesting to make the group stage in two stages... with groups of 6 people. 4 people advance to the next round. The "weakest link" is eliminated, like in the TV show.
These are my thoughts.
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I think the captain selection process is quite straightforward.
It would be more interesting to make the group stage in two phases... with groups of 6 people. The top 4 advance to the next round. The "weakest link" is eliminated, just like in the TV show.
These are just my thoughts.
I don't think the issue of captain selection will be a major problem, because essentially the captains will only perform one function in this tournament: the initial team selection. However, to ensure that this selection is made appropriately, it would be best to appoint players as captains who have a good understanding of the gaming abilities of most participants.
I don't quite understand the idea of group stages and what their purpose is in relation to the concept of this tournament.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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