Posts from Streams (including Mikogo, TeamViewer, etc.) - technical aspects.

A little about the bitrate. The bitrate you specify is the maximum allowed. Increasing it beyond a certain point will not improve the image quality. If you don't meet the specified bitrate, the image will become blurry when moving around the map, etc. (i.e., when many pixels change).

Regarding fullscreen mode, how does he stream then? Everything works perfectly, including in OBS.

He streams in a window.
Take a closer look. 7z is right about the bitrate, but I still manage to stay within my bitrate, but whether Twitch can handle it is another question, and I don't know the answer. In any case, I'm looking at my latest streams and Tvarina's streams – my picture looks better.

The only problem is that the stream quality is too high for widespread consumption; unfortunately, freezes are inevitable, and it's not the streamer's fault, but rather the internet speed and the Flash player's performance, as well as the viewers' connection. Of course, the streamer can set lower values that are acceptable for normal viewing, but the quality will noticeably suffer. I can confidently say that replays will look better than the live stream because you have to wait for the replay to load, while here, it's loading in real-time, so it's not always possible to watch it properly.

Regarding the formula: it was derived empirically and is not for Heroes. There are hundreds of streamers who broadcast excellent quality high-graphic games, but nevertheless, freezes with a slow internet connection are inevitable because the amount of information per second (which the bitrate is responsible for) will be too large. It's the same as downloading HD video. But here, it's not HD, and the server isn't that fast.

I will edit the article soon: indeed, I pushed the FPS too high. The problem is that I was trying to achieve good quality through trial and error, forgetting about the basic concept of streaming. Online viewing is very different from recording, so the picture quality will be good, but the freezes will be very frequent, and those who watch the stream will inevitably lose hundreds of frames, which means that the viewing mode can be called a cheap GIF animation.

The maximum recommended FPS value is 25. Higher than that is pointless.

To be honest, I don’t understand why you need an FPS higher than 25 at all. As far as I know, that’s roughly the number of frames perceived by the eye per second. If you set it higher, the eye physically won’t be able to see it. Although maybe I’m wrong, maybe someone can enlighten me :)

Regarding fullscreen, how does tvarina stream then? everything works perfectly in OBS as well.

Could you please elaborate a bit more on how to stream in fullscreen using XSplit and OBS.

The issue with streaming in fullscreen mode is related to the fact that the game can only support 32-bit color depth in fullscreen.

So, if the game is 32-bit, you just capture the entire screen, and everything works?

So, if the game is 32-bit, you just capture the entire screen, and everything works?

Of course not. The problem now is that only modern games support 32-bit color depth, while the rest can only emulate 32-bit, but that doesn't mean it's native support. For example, in those same Heroes games, there are only 256 colors in the animations.

A conditional full-screen mode can be achieved in the same OBS, when you take the window resolution that is a multiple of your screen resolution and stretch the image.

For example, I have 1366:768
The ratio will be 1.778645833
Thus, a window, say, 1067:600 can already be stretched to the entire screen.

So, in what cases and how exactly can you stream in full-screen mode?

So, in what cases and how exactly can you stream in full-screen mode?

To be honest, I don't know, I haven't tested it. But I'm 100% sure it's possible.

Added 7 hours 27 minutes ago
You can stream a full-screen application using OBS; I just tested it. It looks great, but it's quite resource-intensive, I must admit.

It looks beautiful, but it's quite expensive, I must admit.

Expensive in terms of money or resources?

expensive in terms of money or resources

In terms of resources, OBS is completely free (although it currently has Beta status).

I had to set settings that my computer can't handle. For me, the ideal is how I see it. Sometimes the computer lacks the power, sometimes the internet, and Justin himself doesn't support large amounts of data. More precisely, there is a certain bitrate limit, beyond which it simply doesn't make sense, because you can't get a large bitrate for one free channel, which causes freezes. Mostly, it's just a loss of frames, from 5 to 10 per second. But the picture itself is excellent, and most importantly, there is no blurring during fast movement.
For those interested: Preset — Medium, Bitrate — 5000 kbps, Quality — 10, FPS — 33 (here you can also use 25, but there is not much difference).
Increasing the FPS will allow you to avoid a large number of drops. That is, there will be losses, the same 5-10 frames per second, but this is 20% of 25 fps and 10% of 50 fps, for example. But, as you understand, a good-quality image (let's say png) will weigh about 100 kb. We multiply this by the number of frames, and we get 2500-5000 kb. Not every internet channel can afford such a speed, moreover, Justin himself is unlikely to be able to process such an amount of information. By the way, the VOD will be recorded quite well, it will just weigh a lot. But online viewing will inevitably lag, and this is still more important for a streamer. Therefore, I will have to reduce the quality, but this is not my way) So, I need to come up with something.

What is TeamViewer, stream, Twitch?
More specifically, how do you use these programs???
Can the manuals for them be posted somewhere on HeroesWorld? It's because you can't find anything properly on HeroesWorld that I often dislike this resource :(
Surely this is here and has probably been posted more than once, but reading and searching through a hundred posts instead of having it right in the 1st post of the topic...
And it would be desirable to also have descriptions of important things in English on our portal, then it would be convenient for everyone.

What is TeamViewer, a stream, Twitch?
More precisely, how do you use these programs???.....
It's probably been posted here more than once, but reading and searching through hundreds of posts instead of having it in the first post of the topic...

In August, I moderated 3 HW topics dedicated to broadcasts.
All links and descriptions that I found there at that time, I placed in the first few posts of the topics:
LIVE HOMM3: game broadcasting
Broadcasts (Streams, Mikogo, TeamViewer, etc.) - technical aspects
and also in the topic Navigation in the "HOMM3 online Tournaments" section - where to find what?

Can we put Manuals on HW somewhere?...
And ideally, have an English description of important things on our portal; then it will be convenient for everyone.

Of course, why not? Post them and translate them into English. I will place your posts at the beginning of these topics. It really would be very convenient.

Vaflya started writing an article-manual for beginner broadcasters. The final version was planned to be posted at the beginning of this topic.
However.
Firstly, he somehow stalled:
06.11.2012, 06:55

I will edit the article soon: indeed, I went too far with FPS.

But as of now -

Last edited by Vaflya, 28.10.2012 at 22:26.

The editing deadline has already passed. I can move the article to the end of November. Should I? Will there be further work?

Secondly, this article grossly violates the rules of our portal. And Vaflya knows this perfectly well. Either he should delete the excess himself, or I will do it, and then I will have to put violation points. In its current form, I will not move the article to the beginning of the topic.

I tried following Waffle's instructions, but it didn't work:confused: ... It's very confusing and complicated; I followed all the steps, registered, downloaded, and configured everything... In short, you missed out on a good laugh watching how someone could lose with Brogh on Jebel, even with a decent setup:rolleyes: ...

If someone is having trouble, add me on Skype: let--crazy, and I'll help as much as I can.