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I suggest implementing a system that benefits neither myself nor others. Here's a middle ground between two options: 1) Treat each game as a full-fledged match, awarding points accordingly. 2) Play team vs. team and count wins and losses. 3) The variant I propose is to calculate the point difference (the current system):
Score 1.5 - 1.5, points 1-1
Score 0.5 - 2.5, points 0-2.5
Score 2-1, points 2-0
Score 3-0, points 3-0.
This would improve motivation and teamwork.
There's a slight nuance: the tournament is already underway, and it wouldn't be fair to change the rules for those who are against the changes. We agreed on how to play, so we should stick to it. Although the regulations do allow for changes to the tournament rules).
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No one agreed on anything; it's Max's invention, and not a very good one at that. And who is actually against it?!
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I like the current situation, and the tournament is very interesting. But if the third game, with the score at 2-0, were decisive, it would be much more exciting.
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Leave everything as is.
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Maybe we can all vote together for THIS change in the rules, and finally get the organizers to realize that it NEEDS to be done?

Let's just calm down and play according to the proposed rules. First, the tournament is already underway, and we can't change anything now. Second, the fact that the third match sometimes doesn't matter much isn't a big deal... consider it a reward for the two previous winners, who deserve to have their team get 3 points in the third game, regardless of the outcome.
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Dima Surmay
Let's calm down and play according to the proposed rules. First, the tournament is already underway, and we can't change it now. Second, the fact that sometimes the third match almost doesn't matter isn't a big deal. Consider it a reward for the two previous winners, who deserve that, regardless of the outcome, the team gets 3 points in the third game.

The main host and organizer of the tournament, and no one argues with him!!!
The tournament is new and very interesting:smile20: and I would like to get the maximum enjoyment from it!
P.S. I just don't quite understand the strategy of counting individual rounds, why:confused: if it means losing part of the delicious pie?


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Positive Е}I{и - Three Bogatyrs: 00W - 00L = 1-0; Round 1
01.06.2010 ded MazAi (blue, random, Castle, Sylvia, Pir) def Vinceras (red, random, Tower, Josephine, Nelfka) Jebus Cross, 145

The respawn was just terrible. Not a single external dwelling - and that on Jebus Cross. True, there were 4 Dragon Fly Hives and an external market.
111-117. I'm collecting money (literally collecting - first fight on 115). Angels appear in the Castle.
121. Upgrade to Archangels. Pandora's Box for 20 Champions - 20k gold (was hoping for creatures, experience).
122-125. 4 Dragon Fly Hives (4, 6, 8 and 12 Wyverns). Griffin Conservatory 2. Pir is running to the exit off-road (along the road guarded by 20 gr. bears). No Earth or Air magic.
126. Minotaur Kings are fought. 5 Archangels, 30 Wyverns and a feast in the form of Monks + Pokémon (which Angels later resurrected) and 20 armor decide. Almost no losses.
126-133. Treasure zone is being cleared. Archangels decide. I get Air magic.
134. Opponent breaks through ГО (he had a double one and it was unpleasant).
Seeing a book of Earth magic, I decide to take it and Town Portal to the Castle in the treasure zone.
135. Opp hits the bears and goes to my respawn. How to catch up is unclear. I clear the treasure zone.
142. I get Expert Earth (last skill Earth:smile50: )
Town Portal via Castles, upgrade bears (8 from Pandora's Box), Wyverns.
145. I catch up to the opponent.
By this time, I took 4 Dragon Utopias (though they gave almost nothing good - 10 stats in total). But many artifacts were just lying around in the treasure zone.
Total: 7 Archangels, 10 gr. bears, 80 gr. Wyverns, and odds and ends.
Stats 30 30 25 15. Explosion 2k.
Opponent has 20 gr. Nagas and 4 Archangels (Griffin Conservatory + growth from my Castle), 400 Gremlins.

Thanks for the game.
"Ни в какой игре не следует отчаиваться, пока она не проиграна"

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Sevan_80 (random, blue, rampart, Gerwulf) def yarzapp (random, red, necro, Clavius) 2sm4d3 134

I had no cons and no hive, map poor as hell. And finally opponent attacked my scout with whole army and got morale on elves in first move and then at unicorns, good game, hope will have more luck in ravange.
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Positive E}I{es - Three Bogatyrs: 00W - 00L = 1-0; Round 1
01.06.2010 ded MazAi (blue, random, Castle, Sylvia, Pire) def Vinceras (red, random, Tower, Josephine, Nelka) Jebus Cross, 145

The respawn was just terrible. Not a single external dwelling - and this on Jebus Cross. Though there were 4 Dragon Fly Hives and an external market.
111-117. I'm gathering gold (literally gathering - first fight on 115). Angels are built in the Castle.
121. Upgrade to Archangels. Pandora's Box for 20 Champions - 20k gold (was hoping for creatures, experience).
122-125. 4 Dragon Fly Hives (4, 6, 8 and 12 Wyverns). Griffin Conservatory 2. Pire runs to the exit off-road (20 bears guard the road). No Earth and Air magic.
126. Minotaur Kings are defeated. 5 Archangels, 30 Wyverns and a chow-down in the form of Monks + pokemons (which Angels later resurrected) and 20 armor decide the outcome. Almost no losses.
126-133. The treasure zone is cleared. Archangels decide. I get Air magic.
134. Opponent breaks through GO (he had a double one and it was unpleasant).
Seeing a tome of Earth magic, I decide to take it and Town Portal to the Castle in the treasure zone.
135. Opp hits the bears and comes toward my respawn. Not clear how to catch up. I clear the treasure zone.
142. I get Expert Earth (last skill being Earth :smile50: )
Town Portal across Castles, upgrade bears (8 of them from the Pandora's Box), Wyverns.
145. I catch up to the opponent.
By this point I took 4 Dragon Utopias (though they gave almost nothing good - total of 10 stats). But many artifacts were just lying around in the treasure zone.
Total: 7 Archangels, 10 bears, 80 Wyverns, and miscellaneous small things.
Stats 30 30 25 15. Might Power 2k.
The opponent has 20 Naga Queens and 4 Archangels (Griffin Conservatory + growth from my Castle), 400 Gremlins.

Thanks for the game.

I feel completely falling apart ((.
Thanks for the game.
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Sevensan
No one agreed on anything; this is Max's idea, and it's not a good one. And who is actually against it?
This is a team tournament, as everyone knows. Each team has a group of players who compete against a similar group of players from the opposing team. The number of players is odd, so the pre-obtained advantage in the competition, although it is a demotivating factor, carries the ideology and the goal of organizing the tournament, which will be promoted in every possible way during its course.

If, knowing the approximate strength of two teams, you can roughly determine that you can win 4 out of 6 games, then in team matches, winning 3-0 can lead to losing 2-1 and having the same number of points with a different number of individual wins! THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF THE ENTIRE TEAM GAME! IT IS NOT INDIVIDUAL MATCHES THAT MATTER, BUT TEAM RESULTS IN MATCHES!

If it's so hard to understand, let me explain: the meaning of each team competition is to determine TWO winning players out of THREE matches, which will give the team an overall victory!

Regarding "unnecessary games," I can say the following: these games are necessary! Yes, there will be games that will not affect the standings, BUT it is in these games that you can see the players (people) who take the games seriously, demonstrate certain qualities, etc. For the organizer, not only are the raw numbers important, but also "demonstration performances" that show other aspects of the player!

Ask yourself why, for example, in artistic gymnastics, an athlete who has fallen from the bar and dislocated some part of his body gets up and, knowing that he will be last, jumps onto it and finishes his program? He is LAST, but he is working for the future...

And finally,
when considering the awarding of points, there were different ideas, and no one voiced the desired idea about this, so it will be kept to himself, and I hope (depending on the number of players) it will be adopted in the next or subsequent tournament!

Message from Yegor Korobeynikov:
I like the current situation, and the tournament is very interesting. But if the 3rd game mattered when the score was 2-0, it would be much more interesting.
I like it too, but it's not that kind of story.
Message from Kilgor:
Leave everything as it is.
Everything will remain the same.
Message from Scorpiona:
The main host and organizer of the tournament, and no one argues with him!!!
The tournament is new, very interesting, and I would like to get the maximum enjoyment from it!
P.S. I just don't quite understand the strategy of counting individual rounds; why, if it means losing part of the delicious pie?
Part of the pie is not lost; it's just baked according to a different recipe.

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I have updated the table and the list of reports. Please check for consistency.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Sevan_80 (random, blue, Rampart, Gerwulf) def yarzapp (random, red, Necropolis, Clavius) 134
It was a good game, thanks for playing.
"Shchi" - "Trio of Noobs": LL0 - WW0 = 0-2, first round.
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Players who haven't played any games:

Tiamath
aka.Ward3n
Vigo
Marduk
AlexAG
Yarzapp

If no games are played by September 15th, technical defeats will be assigned after reviewing the communication logs, in favor of the first available players. If players overlap, I'll flip a coin!


Correction: technical defeats will be assigned randomly from the four possible matchups of the first round, if there are no saves against anyone.

злой_романтик
ВА/IEHOK
R55Max
theShevanesian

This is our group, guys, let's play! I'll be able to play after the 13th, as we're all in the same group. The deadline is September 17th!
There's a save with злой_романтик; how are things with the others, including романтик?
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Players who haven't played any games:

Tiamath
aka.Ward3n
Vigo
Marduk
AlexAG
Yarzapp
AlexAG is away until the 13th, and they played 1 game with Yarzapp.
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We are playing with aka.Ward3n.
And it seems that Tiamat won against Scorpiony (it was mentioned on the forum).
"Ни в какой игре не следует отчаиваться, пока она не проиграна"

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There are saves with you (R55) + a save with theShevanesian; we tried to establish a connection with VA/IEHOK for 6 hours, but it didn't work – I don't know what to do; let's try again.
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