Posts from "Newcomer-2012. Summer"

The tournament is going well.
We're discussing bugs and learning the intricacies of autobattle.
When will the intrigue begin?
In the final, or earlier?

15.07.2012 kinger (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def RozenKran (red, Conflux, random, Gurnisson) Jebus Cross 143

We picked all the rests, had to play what we were dealt, and we got a decent deal:)
111 - Shakti has a necklace +1 speed, on the road a block of 10+ diamond golems:( , but you can go around it;
112 - cleared a cat stack, no money, only 5 heroes, scouted the University;
113 - scouted two minotaur stacks, secondary hero - swamp;
114 - scouted another cat stack, broke through the diamond golems, picked up chain +4 attack, took a secondary hero (unguarded);
115 - took the second cat stack;
116 - scouted a third minotaur stack and build a chain to capture everything by day seven, at the top a drake stack behind a bunch of efreeti - I won't make it there in time;
117 - portal to the cats, then took all three minotaur stacks, while clearing a scroll with DD, in the castle - 1-6 in the Castle;
121 - scouted an unpleasant GO - a horde of sultans and a crowd of spirit drakes:( ;
122 - killed the horses for a pandora's box with 5k gold, then a crowd of upgraded demons for a cap +4 knowledge, at the top of the respawn scouted another cat stack and a Dragon Utopia;
123 - Shakti into the castle for double mana, finally found ONE Griffin Conservatory - building a chain to it;
124 - got a level-3 Conservatory;
125 - killed 20+ zealots for boots +2 to all right in front of the GO;
126 - decided to fight the spirits (33 minotaurs, 15 cats and 3 angels). 30 spirits wiped out all my angels and 9 cats:(
127 - was afraid to push further into the center, sent a scout hero there, while I barely managed to recruit drakes in the main and cleared a drake stack via the chain;
131 - decided to take the Dragon Utopias on the main first - broke through with Shakti and ran towards them;
132 - pandora's box with 5k exp, then behind 20+ diamond golems a prison with Caitlin level 20, cleared another cat stack and killed 50+ evil eyes for a shield +12-3. Opponent is on a rampage in front of his GO;
133 - still no earth, have air, but no haste:mad: First Dragon Utopia drops - blue hat, KO, dragon hat +3/+3, medallion +3/+3 morale/luck;
134 - second Dragon Utopia drops: cuirass and helm of titan, shield +3/+3 attack/defense, sea captain's hat:( Took shackles of war for 50+ pit lords;
135 - Shakti jumps home to refill mana;
136 - upgrade the drakes, run into the University, the opponent is cleaning the center full speed:( ;
137 - jump to the center for another Dragon Utopia;
141 - third Dragon Utopia drops: KO, КВз, cauldron +6 to all, run home for double mana;
142 - opponent breaks into my respawn, I frantically try to buy everything, break through with Shakti to a secondary swamp (there was another Dragon Utopia in sight there), upgrade all troops and during the transfer I bought out the scout hero not in the swamp, but in the main:( No money left - had to use Shakti to run to another scout hero with Power of the Dragon Father and pick up the troops (in a hurry (time was running out) I forgot to equip the cauldron +6 to all instead of the titan's helm:mad: );
143 - opponent takes the main, then scouted Shakti's location with a scout hero and jumped in with his main hero:(

FB: Shakti (level 16, expert attack, tactics, intelligence, air, leadership, basic logistics and fire) stats 14 26 15 18 (323 mana); army: 9 drakes, 23 cats, 62 minotaurs, 40 evil eyes, 43 harpies, 24 queen medusae, 32 troglodytes:)
Gurnisson (level 23, expert attack, artillery, tactics, air, armor, logistics, earth, intelligence) stats 32 22 18 19 (297 mana); army: 16 birds, 20 psychos, 30 water elementals, 43 earth elementals, 22 ducks, 20 queen medusae and 25 medusae;

Birds move first, the opponent has Orb of Vulnerability - casts berserk on the drakes. The drakes kill 6 cats and get a return hit. I use chain lightning to kill 4 birds and 4 psychos (+ ballista and 1 duck:) ) Then waits, opponent shoots at the evil eyes, I shoot at the birds:) With cats I reach the fire elementals, hit them, the cats get a morale proc - I hit the queen medusae, birds hit the cats - only 7 remain. Next the drakes move - I cast armageddon immediately (IT DID NOT WORK!!!!!! on the drakes (I checked the save later - it's true). Why? The opponent has the Orb of Vulnerability. Ultimately that decided everything - opponent casts implosion on the minotaurs, 14 remain, only one drake dies, next turn armageddon kills everything except the drakes. GG:)

Thanks to RozenKran for the game.

Next, please remove me from the tournament, I wrote the reason to Scorpione in ICQ. I apologize to everyone I might have offended in any way, but circumstances turned out this way. Good luck to you in your games and may the strongest win!

When will the intrigue begin?
In the finale or earlier?

In the finale. Or later.

07/15/2012 kinger (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def RozenKran (red, Conflux, random, Gurnisson) Jebus Cross 143

On the next turn, Armageddon kills everyone except the fighters. GG :)

Thanks to RozenKran for the game.

Next, I ask to be removed from the tournament; I wrote the reason to Scorpione in ICQ. I apologize to everyone I may have offended, but circumstances have turned out this way. Good luck to you all in the games, and may the strongest win!

Watched half the game:smile30:
First, 117-122. I thought red was done for. He almost lost on 117, and then a little more on that same spot)))
Then he only got to 132. Red was running around in the center.
And the FB really surprised me))) How come Armageddon wasn't destroying the dragons?
It's a shame that Kinger won't play any further:smile39:

black orb, an evil thing

15.07.2012 kinger (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def RozenKran (red, Conflux, random, Gurnisson) Jebus Cross 143

Probably my most interesting game in Heroes so far.
I didn't think I'd be able to come back after 2 consecutive losses, but on 132 when I saw an untouched treasure site - my spirits lifted! In a week I cleared everything near the road and scouted the whole treasure site with imps. 4 or 5 dragon nests, well what can I say - lucky the opponent didn't get here first. Took a couple of Pandora's boxes for 15k gold, 2 central castles, all the magic, and a couple of Pandora's boxes for 20 and 25 medusas. At the end of the 3rd [week?] I took a Shield +5 All, got 2 Dragon Fly Hives I found in the treasure (and only 1 dwelling) and stayed in the dungeon waiting for the Mana Vortex.
On 141 I broke a max Dragon Utopia - got Water Walk, КЗ and the Black Orb, considering all magic is already there - junk basically... but the Black Orb could decide things against dragons.
142 I figured since the opp hadn't come to the center yet, things were bad for him, besides I'd been checking the tavern constantly since week 3 and his army was weaker and stats lower, so I decided to go kill him without overthinking.
143 on the last move I reach Shakti and was stunned, his stats had increased nicely and 63 gr. minotaurs!!!

The FB was very educational for me, the birds moved first. I started casually with berserk (i.e., until then I hadn't fully assessed the amount of meat for myself and the opp) although there was no choice but to immediately take out the Ancient Behemoths with an explosion. In the second round, logically the Ancient Behemoths moved first - Armageddon surprised me a lot - and especially the fact that the Ancient Behemoths resisted it. I take out 33 minotaurs with an explosion and pile onto the Ancient Behemoths, realizing that next turn Armageddon will kill everything except them. And in the 3rd round the Ancient Behemoths move first again - I totally didn't understand that - need to study the turn priority mechanics.... I thought that with equal speed they would take turns moving (I was hoping for resurrect or explosion and two corpses). But it turned out the way it did, it was an interesting battle.
I noted for myself that you should never underestimate your opponent, and play as safely as possible. In the late game, there were still plenty of opportunities to farm meat. And the Black Orb is an unreliable thing )))

P.S. Thanks for the game and sorry for the misunderstanding at the end, no negativity, kinger, I didn't have and don't have any towards you (it's a pity of course that you're dropping out, especially after such a heated battle)

Next turn, the dragons attack – I immediately cast Armageddon (it DIDN'T WORK!!!!!! on the dragons – I checked the save file later, and it was indeed the case). Why? After all, the opponent has the vulnerability sphere.

In theory, if you had the sphere, Armageddon would have affected your dragons. And if the opponent has it, it shouldn't affect your spells. If I understand the mechanics correctly.

The idea is that if you had the Armageddon's Blade artifact, it would affect your creatures. But if your opponent has it, it shouldn't affect your spells, right? If I understand the mechanics correctly.

Do you think so?.... As I understood it, it affected Phoenixes, but not Dragons.

The idea is that if you had the Armageddon's Blade artifact, it would affect your creatures. But if the opponent has it, it wouldn't affect your spells. If I understand the mechanics correctly.

It seems that's how it works, so the logic is quite reasonable.
Maybe someone else can explain the turn order?

It's all described in the manual.

Do you think so? ... As I understand it, it worked on Phoenixes, but not on Dragons.

I'm sure. But, according to your logic, this should be a BUG :eek: :D

I'm sure. But, according to your logic, it should be a BUG :eek: :D

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What are you getting at?

FizMiG:
Armageddon. If this spell is cast by the wielder of the "Sphere of Vulnerability" artifact, it affects everyone. If its target is an enemy, it affects all enemies and only those of its own troops that it would have affected without the Sphere.

:smile43: Well, I didn't know that either:D. Quite informative discussions, though:p!

So, in this case, did the Sphere of Influence act as a negative artifact for Rosen, granting immunity to the opponent's spell but reducing the stats of his own creatures?
P.S. I just haven't encountered such a situation before.

So, in this case, did the sphere work as a negative artifact for Rosen, granting immunity to the opponent's spell but removing it from his own creatures?
P.S. I just haven't encountered such a situation.

Yes, there are many interesting exceptions in the physics engine regarding the sphere... As for the turn order priority, I haven't found any information about it in the physics engine, maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
P.S. Sorry for the off-topic.