1st annual offline tournament "Best Of The Best" — Tournament history (offline)

Sage

19 years ago

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I reached the sea at the beginning of the 3rd week, then captured 2 Castles and fought against Arham. And I cleared the swamp with my second hero (in my case, it was a Celt) a little later. In general, I could have completed it in 15-20 days, but I spent too much time on unnecessary things (for example, the Celt only got navigation in the Witch's Hut on the 3rd week => he spent a long time sailing to the orange town, and so on), and I didn't have enough time or energy to replay it one more time.
I think the winners used the strategy of having the main hero run to a town and then transferring his army to him in a chain. I just don't understand how they dealt with Magnus so quickly, in terms of how that battle went.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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Sage;58973

I broke through to the sea at the beginning of the 3rd week, then took back 2 Castles and fought with Archangels.

I wiped out the Finics near the port using 3 Behemoths and 6 goblins. Losses: 6 goblins. This was also somewhere around the third week, judging by the presence of behemoths. It's unlikely anyone had three behemoths on the second week. Brag away—who took them down earlier or what did you use to clear 10 finics? :)

Sage;58973

And I cleared the swamp with a second hero (for me, it was Celt) a bit later.
I think the winners used the main hero's retreat and then passed his army to him via a chain of towns for redemption. I just can't figure out how they dealt with Magnus so quickly—meaning, how that battle went.

I cleared the swamp immediately—took the boots and the rusties, but I didn't take back the Fortress there—it would be a pity to give away the hat right away :)
Celt remained my main hero—and he wasn't allowed to retreat :)

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Sage

19 years ago

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IronAxe;58974

My main character is still the Celt, and it wasn't possible to run away with him.

As for me, it's Dessa.

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IronAxe;58974

I cleared the swamp right away - I took the boots and the rusty ones. But I didn't take the fortress there - I didn't want to give up the hat right away. My main character is still the Celt, and it wasn't possible to run away with him.

I ran around without boots :( and swam without a hat :( In general,

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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Sage;58975

I have Dessa.

That's because you had to step on the Pandora's Box with the spellbook. I didn't – I picked it up later when Celt returned and bought the spellbook.

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Sage

19 years ago

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IronAxe;58977

That's because you need to step on the Pandora's Box with a spellbook. I didn't – I picked it up later when the Celt returned and bought a spellbook.

No, Dessoy didn't take the box. The Celt took it on day 5, I think, after buying a spellbook.
And I hired Dess on day 2 and sent her to gather resources at the bottom.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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I was running around without boots at all :( and swimming without a hat :( . In short, it was a mistake on my part not to go into the swamp immediately.And he fell behind me not far. As for me, I had everything - one problem, I was constantly plagued by greed, first I needed to take this, then that. I spent almost 4-5 days gathering gremlins across my territory. Greed ruins fools :)
However, I didn't expect to grab more oil than anyone else - and the question is - why the hell did I even need it :)

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Sage;58978

No, I didn't take the chest with Dessa. I took it with Kelt on day 5, I think, when I bought up books.

But why was Dessa the main one then - did he take down your Mungus or something?

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Sage

19 years ago

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IronAxe;58979

He didn't fall too far behind me.

Yeah, and I spent 4 days resting after taking Castle on the continent where Magnus lives. I should have immediately gone to the Dungeon, but I was still waiting for the Archons to accumulate, and as a result, I couldn't upgrade 3 Angels from the reserve. If I had gone immediately, I wouldn't have taken 4 Archons from the reserve, but I would have upgraded 3 Angels from the reserve, and there would have been only 1 fewer Archon when diving into the Dungeon (not 17, but 16).

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IronAxe;58979

But why is Dessa the main hero then? Did he kill Magnus?

It's just that the Celt with Hippogryphs was defeating Phoenixes and Archdevils because his specialty is Hippogryphs. And Dessa started leveling up when the Castle on the island was captured, and the Hippogryphs took a backseat. Dessa is also a Logistician, so he moves faster, which is why I chose him as the main hero. That's why it was more important for me to take Pandora with the Celt. Besides, Dessa already had Logistics, and I didn't want to give Diplomacy to the main hero.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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Yeah, and I was stuck for 4 days after taking Castle on the continent where Magnus lives. I should have immediately run to the Dungeon, but I was still waiting for the Arch increase, and as a result, I couldn't upgrade 3 Angels from the reserve, but if I had gone immediately, I wouldn't have taken 4 Archs from the increase, but I would have upgraded 3 Angels from the reserve, and there would have been only 1 less Arch when diving into the Dungeon (not 17, but 16).

And I, on the contrary, first cleared the Dragon Fortress in the Dungeon – I needed Berserk, Powerful Explosion, and mana doubling spells, plus I could set up additional skills there, choosing ones that included Rusty. Fortunately, I had already captured their spawning locations on the swamp. And I cleared the Fortress of Life only after the second Citadel and Fortress of Order in the center of the Dungeon.

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Dess is also a logistics expert – he runs faster, which is why I chose him as the main hero. Therefore, for me, it was more important to take Pandora with the Celt. Besides, Dess already had logistics, and I didn't want to give diplomacy to the main hero.

With boots and gloves, the Celt also moved well. I gave him both pathfinding and logistics. And he also had diplomacy; no one else had it.

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Sage

19 years ago

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IronAxe;58985

I, on the contrary, started by clearing out the Dragon strongholds underground – I needed the Berserk spell, Powerful Blast, and mana doubling, plus I could customize additional skills there, choosing ones that included Rust. Luckily, I had already captured their spawning grounds in the swamp. And I only attacked the Life strongholds after conquering the second Citadel and the Order stronghold in the center, underground.

There are as many strategies as there are players :) I just hadn't thought about using the Rust monsters from the summoning portal in the dungeon. Probably because I rarely play in dungeons.
By the way, I killed the Black Dragon with 10 Titans with the Underworld creature, 1+1 Archdevils, and 1+1+1+1 Gargoyles.

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IronAxe;58985

Kelt was great with the boots and gloves. I gave him Pathfinding and Logistics. He also had Diplomacy; no one else had it.

Dessoi got Pathfinding as his last skill, right before I had to run through the snow. And if he had also taken the boots... (dreams).

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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As many people as there are, so many walkthrough strategies :) . But I somehow didn't think about the rusted ones from the summoning portal in the dungeon. Probably because I play as the dungeon very rarely.
By the way, I killed CD with 10 titans with support, 1+1 Archs and 1+1+1+1 gargoyles

Good grief, how does that work - I don't quite get it right away. Write in a bit more detail the tactics of this battle and how many CD were there? I think there should have been roughly around 600 CD, slightly fewer. That was my case and I smashed them with 33 RD - without losses, but barely, spent a ton of mana.

In theory, 6 squads of CD would immediately wipe out 1+1 Archs and gargoyles with support within 2 rounds. Where is the catch here - spill it!? :)

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Sage

19 years ago

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Wow, I don't quite understand how this works. Could you describe the tactics for this battle in a bit more detail, and how many creatures were involved? I think there should have been around 600 creatures, maybe a little less. That's how it was for me, and I defeated them with 33 ranged units – without any losses, but it was a close call, and I used a lot of mana.

The battle with the black dragons went like this: 10 titans were positioned at the top, above the ammunition depot, with 1 archangel underneath, then 1 obsidian gargoyle, then another archangel, and finally three stacks of 1 obsidian gargoyle each at the bottom. The black dragons were arranged in 5 stacks of 89 each, and 1 upper stack with 90. My turn was, of course, first, and the upper archangel flew down and forward a bit. Then, I cast a power field spell covering 3 squares in front of the titans and the ammunition depot, so that only a creature of size 1 could reach the ammunition depot. The second archangel flew forward and down. The black dragons attacked and killed the archangels and obsidian gargoyles, coming under the direct fire of the titans. On the next turn, I cast the expert spell "Haste," and the titans started moving before the black dragons. After that, every other turn, I cast the "Power Shield" spell, positioning it the same way as on the first turn. Additionally, I cast "Haste," "Bless," and "Accuracy" on the titans as needed. As a result, the titans were able to freely shoot down the black dragons, leaving 2-4 creatures in each stack. After there were 4 stacks with 2-4 black dragons each, two archangels were revived with the "Resurrection" spell. After that, the black dragons were finished off. There was a lot of mana with the "Expert Intellect" and "Mana Vortex" skills.
That's how it went. The expert power field is awesome :)

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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That's exactly how it was. The expert power field is the key :)

That makes sense, but how much mana did you spend? And approximately how many hit points does a Death Knight deal with 10 Titans in a direct attack? About 5 each?

I also used the field. Rangers move faster than Death Knights. I would close in, cast spells, bless, close in again, cast spells... and so on. Because the power field lasts for 2 or 3 rounds. I cast all the spells I could on them, especially the Fire Shield, which deals damage in return. Then I stood in a corner and started the battle. I also had to spend mana on resurrection to avoid losing any Rangers.

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Sage

19 years ago

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That makes sense, but how much mana did you spend? Approximately how many Titans does a Death Ripple hit for 10 targets at once? About 5?

I spent 504 mana, and I still had 215 mana left. And I was hitting for 4-5 Death Ripples. Also, the hero had an amulet with +3 morale and +3 luck. And with Magnus, it turned out great: first, I aged his phoenixes with ghost dragons, and then I immediately poisoned them with wyverns. And then I hit Arhames without any retaliation, with phoenixes having 90 health.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

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IronAxe

19 years ago

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I burned 504 mana and still had 215 mana left. And I was dealing 4-5 damage per turn. Also, the hero had an amulet with +3 morale and +3 luck.

Cool! I wouldn't be able to do that – my Celt didn't have enough intelligence! I had to rely on doubling the damage in the Fortress of the Dead and on brute force. I spent almost all my mana, but I don't remember exactly how much, but less than you. After the battle, I took the artifact and teleported – I barely had enough mana to jump into one of the Fortresses of the Dead for a recharge with the doubling effect.

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Sage

19 years ago

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After the battle, I grabbed the artifact and landed – I barely had enough movement points to jump to one of the Fortress castles to recharge with a doubling spell.

As for me, I was one step short of reaching the nearest dungeon, so instead, I immediately sailed off to eliminate the wyvern monarchs, receiving reinforcements of 48 Archons along the way.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.