Posts from COMPETITION FOR MONEY $$$ (2012)

In any case, I believe that trying to prove where angels come from in the game, how much gold should be earned per turn, or why Deemer is so stupid, to the point of accusing new players of cheating, is not a worthy pursuit for a gentleman.
Arrogant newbies should be fed manure.

Well, here's another apologist for the theory of flawless gameplay. And what, in your opinion, is a worthy pursuit for a gentleman? To cheat and then yell at the whole world about why you, noobs, are checking him? Or does the concept of "cheating" not apply to "gentlemen"? Are they inherently flawless?
I wouldn't just feed you manure; I'd literally bathe you in it. They say mud baths refresh an inflamed and overstressed brain.

Well, you forced me to look for the password for HW. Mr. (formal way to address a stranger in Russia) medstrax, please read the following carefully and impartially and draw your own conclusions: You stated: "I came up with these conditions myself, see above. For those who don't understand, I'll repeat. The winner of the Competitive event, if they finish within 3-4-7, will receive 100 dollars from me." The key word is Competitive. That is, you automatically agreed to the rules of this very Competitive event. You did not provide any other requirements, restrictions, etc., other than these rules until the end of the Competitive event. After the end of the Competitive event, you cannot introduce your own conditions - this is prohibited by any form of law and public agreement and is always interpreted as illegal aggression. Therefore, your demands are unfounded, and the reason for your resentment towards the players lies in your own inattention. And also: according to the rules of the Competitive event, the host checks and announces the winners. No one else is authorized to do this.

Well, look at that, another advocate of the theory of flawless gameplay. And what, in your opinion, is an activity worthy of a gentleman? To cheat and then yell at the whole world about how awful it is that you, noobs, are testing him? Or does the concept of "cheating" not apply to "gentlemen"? Are they flawless by definition?
I wouldn't just feed you; I'd literally bathe you in feces. They say mud baths refresh an inflamed and overstressed brain.

Many well-known figures in the Heroes world have already hinted that you are wrong. I think you understand this yourself.

Daily saves exist! What more do you need!? And for unfounded accusations of cheating, decent people won't even talk to you. Keep that in mind.

And don't be rude:smile48:

After the competition ends, you cannot set your own conditions – this is prohibited by any form of law and public agreement and is always interpreted as illegal aggression.

Even though I'm feeling lazy, I can't resist commenting. What is prohibited and by whom, and what is interpreted as aggression? You must have retrained as a law student. Although, it's a pity, you interpret "law" very incorrectly; I would give you a failing grade on an exam. But, since we don't need lawyers here, I will continue the topic. I have carefully begun to study the logs, and there are already many questions. At the end, I will post them all together. Without refusing the mentioned fee, I want to understand that I haven't been cheated. Is this my legal right? Or will accusations follow, such as "you're a noob, you didn't see the can," and so on? All in an attempt to refute my analysis. I don't care much about these people; I will post the research later, and then you can criticize it.

I don't mind engaging in a debate with you, but you're not worth the effort. However, I will point out your mistakes: 1) You don't have the right to check whether you've been scammed or not. The reason is that you don't know: "What is prohibited, by whom, and how is it interpreted as aggression?" 2) Right now, you don't have a single "right" that you can appeal to, except for the rules of conduct on the site, which you agreed to but are not following. 3) Right now, no one and nothing owes you anything. At the same time, they consider it their duty to treat you a certain way, but you can ignore this – you've already made it clear to everyone that communicating with you is pointless. By the way, considering the fact that you have offended a large number of users of this site with your thoughtless statements, you already deserve a response from the administration. I don't have to respond; I will ignore you in the future.

Guys, health insurance companies are playing a game of "Try to get something from me," as described by E. Berne. Anyone who engages in a debate with a health insurance company unwittingly plays along, because the only winner in this game is the insurance company.

Not refusing from the mentioned fee.

You're doing great by not refusing! We're waiting for 100 bucks.

And what, in your opinion, is an activity worthy of a gentleman? To cheat and then yell at the whole world about how the hell you're being checked? I want to understand that I haven't been scammed. I would not just feed you, but literally bathe you in feces. They say mud baths refresh an inflamed and overstressed brain.

And I completely agree with you about fecal therapy.
If the conclusions about "cheaters" come before the results of the "analysis" of saves, then it can only be cured with sh*t.

In any case, I believe that arguing about where angels come from in the game, how much money should be earned per turn, or why Deemer is so stupid and accusing newcomers of cheating is not a worthy pursuit for a gentleman.
Arrogant newbies should be fed manure.

Stop. It's obviously about this:

Obviously, in a fair manner, if the AI wasn't making mistakes, Deemer wouldn't have been able to win with such a power imbalance.

And as far as I understand, it's about all the units merging into one stack. This is NOT an accusation of cheating! It's a flaw in the game itself, which some interpret as a "feature."

Do you really think that a player of DmitryAS's caliber wouldn't be able to lose against Deemer if "fairness" was emphasized?

I didn't understand the phrase; does "lose" mean to be defeated? And does it require a certain level to lose? :D

Now, about Medstrax:

BACKGROUND

Arrogant newbies should be fed manure.

The thing is, this guy considers himself a true professional and ace player. Perhaps the best in the world (as of yet unknown) (and I'm not joking!!)

This is evidenced by the topics he created earlier, such as: "Can you play?!", "Campaigns by Maxuta-Phoenix," where he discussed how no mortal could complete Maxuta's "Magnificent Four" campaign, especially the first three missions. Particularly the third mission. It's supposedly impossible, and only he can do it.

And of course, his posts in the "[TOURNAMENT] 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2010)" thread, where he argued that it's impossible for us, the forum users, to complete it and "gave it a try." Dirty even made a tournament based on it to show the guy "who's who."

There were also many posts about how the map is impossible to complete in one evening. Which I then did, and was accused of cheating:D. (although I was partly to blame, as I didn't make daily saves, and I had one save with a cheat; I opened it to reveal the entire map and use it for scouting, so I wouldn't have to look in the map editor. But the other saves were clean...)

In short, the tournament ended. He didn't confirm his boast that he would play better and faster than ANY player. And he disappeared for 2-3 years. He simply vanished.

leaving the phrase:

I can understand everything except one thing - na...v. It's a pity that participants use cheats and so on.

So, after all this, to call him a noob? A blabbermouth? I just can't! :D

Currently, there is a slow and difficult process of adapting, breaking down established stereotypes. Such as:

"I'm a pro!",

"no one plays Heroes better than me!",

"Maxuta's campaign is impossible; only I could do it, and maybe a few other mortals, but probably with cheats",

"if someone does something better than me in Heroes, they must be cheating, so we need to check",

"the obsessive thought that I am special",

"there's no one here who can teach me",

etc.

Please understand.

It was said long ago that:

recognizing your (noobish?) level of play is already a level.
not recognizing your level of play is noobism.

something like that. He hasn't realized it yet :D. The guy can't understand that not 1-2 people play better than him, but for almost ten years, offline tournaments have been held where people show results that he can only dream of. And there are about 50 of these people. And the fact that these results have been repeatedly checked for cheating by multiple people. Over the years, an offline culture has developed. You could say that offline has become a kind of e-sport in Heroes, although not a very popular one. (And to realize that you are a loser compared to them... the inner self strongly resists this, gets angry, curses, looks for excuses, looks for reasons to slander others, anything just to avoid realizing THE TRUTH)

And in principle, there is nothing wrong with wanting to check. It's even good. This is where the level and growth in the game will come from. I remember my first offline tournament... although that's off-topic.


Of course, I agree with this:

If conclusions about "cheaters" come before the results of "analyzing" saves, then it can only be cured with manure.

but it's hard for the person to realize that someone can play so much better than him. And without cheats. It's just impossible.

So let him check the saves. But he should also watch his tongue,

Medstrax, before shouting "cheater!"

1. first, find a suspicious moment, and look at it carefully; the answer may be obvious.

2. then, ask the person who completed the map, or here in the thread. And do it in a polite style: "How did you do this and that?", not "You did this, and I don't understand how, so you're all cheaters and jerks!"

3. if no one can answer you, then you can say that the person is a cheater.

And until then, there's no need to blab about your "suspicions!"

This is to avoid looking like an idiot-noob, a noob-idiot.

Otherwise, it will be like with the angels that only live in the Castle, and the computer that went the wrong way.


Can't you just ask nicely? Like, "I don't understand this and that moment here. How did you do this and that?" And then wait for answers and ask additional questions? Why are you alienating everyone? Does that make you happy? Why do you immediately shout that someone is a cheater when you don't understand something? Just behave normally, and everyone would explain everything to you without feeding you manure

I assume that the person who declared they would pay anyone who could solve the problem within an unrealistic timeframe (according to their own standards) has now received several solutions and found themselves in a trap of their own making: 1. The money needs to be paid – and the amount isn't that significant, and they would pay if they had promised, BUT... 2. Acknowledging that the solution is correct automatically means admitting their own WRONGDOING. And that's where the problem lies... Therefore, there's no need to say that they "held back the money," etc. – the opponent's priority now (possibly) is different: to stir up emotions, provoke an insult, and then slam the door with a disdainful look – this is the most likely scenario...

I'm carefully studying the save files, and I already have a lot of questions. I'll post them all together when I'm done. Without refusing the mentioned fee, I want to understand if I was cheated. Is this my legitimate right?

Here are more detailed ones, take a look if you reject Ksyukhin's: http://narod.ru/disk/54775329001.f3fe1e347d9c9041217aead700df62d9/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B8%20%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%BE.7z.html

There are 1576 fairly detailed save files in the archive. Just be careful, this 900 kilobyte archive unpacks into 2.2 gigabytes.

2medstrax
Please be more polite, or I will punish you :)

By the way, is it just me, or does medstrax remind you of wlk777?

Is it just me, or does medstrax remind anyone else of wlk777?

I don't think they're very similar: wlk777 just swore too much and "argued" with some players, but he was relatively reasonable. By the way, does anyone know how he's doing now? Because it's a bit boring without him. "Guys from the neighborhood," where are you? :)

By the way, does medstrax remind anyone else of wlk777?

This isn't the Wlk that's around now, but the one who just joined the forum)

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The only thing that makes me happy right now is this:

I'm carefully studying the diaries, and I already have a lot of questions.

The key word is CAREFULLY. I really hope that he's studying them carefully... and not like he usually does.

... wlk777 ...By the way, does anyone know how he's doing now? It's a bit boring without him. "Guys from the neighborhood," where are you? :)

He's in the Warlords Tavern chat. He's the most active player.

We don't want to accuse anyone; we want to understand what happened. $100 is a small amount, but we wouldn't want to pay it to cheaters. That's why we want to understand and investigate.
We've noticed some things, and other things are still unclear. Therefore, it would be fair if we asked for explanations regarding certain occurrences in the save files.

But who are the judges? In other words, who are these "we"?