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2 Sticky posts to comment on regarding the Chinese player:
Please translate not in the form of questions, but in the form in which I am trying to present it


1. In the game against Homunculus, he declines Air as Barbarian. For Barbarian, this skill is no less necessary than Earth and Logistics. In the game against Mike, he takes Air, which is less useful for Castle than for Barb. The same applies to the question regarding the declined Earth.

2. In all games, he demonstrates nearly perfect play. But a skilled player must absolutely have information about the strength of the GO. For me, this inconsistency is significant; I want to hear a constructive response.

3. In the game against Mike, a teleport on the road half a day's walk from the main is not broken through. A skilled player would definitely break it to gain information (there might be conss, artifacts, hives, boxes). The Chinese player runs with his main stack in the opposite direction towards much harder guards (mages). The answer "I didn't want to use the main to avoid losing tempo" is not accepted - the teleport is easily scouted by chaining with scout heroes.

4. In the same game, a quote from my post on page 30
"On week 1 day 2, I also noticed an unclear move of removing the +4 stick when he was holed up in a Necro village. An opponent could have easily popped out of the fog. But the deadline was short; one could indulge in some equipment shuffling. But on week 1 day 3, a Gnoll is already sleeping in the field, at a crossroads with 5 directions. From three directions the opponent won't appear, but from the GO (a group of Hydras) direction and from the secondary hero's direction in the fog there is a possibility. But the fathers know that the opp is farming his home conss at this time, so one can safely stash the sword in the backpack and give the scout hero as many as two horses to capture the town. Here I wondered, if he is so fearless, why not speed up on the horses and send the scout hero with the army into the village?? And the reason is... If he does that, the scout hero won't reach the main stack and moves are lost."
We await comments, because the opponent could have easily jumped out of the fog.

5a. The reason for moving towards his own GO and diving with 5 horses across rough terrain essentially into nowhere. Boots of Speed were found. If we assume he was looking for an entrance to the treasure zone, why didn't he continue those searches afterward. The very fact of finding the boots in the fog I consider clear map hacking.

5b. In the game against Homunculus, he didn't need the boots; one might assume he was afraid of birds (which, by the way, were easily killed). With Mike, however, he is not afraid to take the boots with much more critical losses.

6. I didn't see this myself, but in the game against Mike on SMK, there was an unclear moment with checking an already broken conss.

7. In the same game, he ignores the nearby entrance to the treasure zone, instead enters from a more inconvenient side and gobbles up the goodies there.

8. And most importantly, if you add up the episodes listed above by Vitaly and make a video compilation, the picture shows that the player follows an ideal trajectory, ignoring the fogged areas of the map where there is nothing tasty, and visits fogged areas where he can profit. Is this a sign of skill?

Neo had constructive points; it would be desirable for him to also throw in some questions
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Зима 2011-12.
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Gomunguls
Javdet and I have already thoroughly laid out everything about the level-up tree... on Jebus Cross. So there, at 121, you can calmly buy the spellbook, visit the stable, and then run...
About the spellbook - I was referring to your 1st game, not Jebus Cross. More precisely, Maretti wrote about the spellbook there.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Captain
About the book - I was writing about your 1st game, not about Jebus Cross. More precisely, Maretti wrote about the book there.
So, in the end, do you think everything is fine and the Chinese player just played as the game turned out, with minor oddities? Did I understand correctly?
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Gomunguls
So, you ultimately believe that everything is fine, and the Chinese player simply played as it turned out in the game, with some minor oddities? Did I understand correctly?
Yes, there is no evidence of cheating here... at least, not for me. Only oddities and suspicions... but not serious ones.
I will continue to review his game saves with Javdet...
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Yes, there is no proof of cheating here... at least, not for me. Only oddities and suspicions... but nothing serious.
I will look at more of his game saves with Javdet...
You don't need to waste your time. There was nowhere for him to cheat in my games, and no reason to.
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Зима 2011-12.
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I asked about Javdet and Gomunguls, and they will answer next week. But the translator immediately said that, judging by the questions asked, our playstyles are simply very different.

Added after 3 hours and 11 minutes
http://zalil.ru/33485489 - enjoy Red font - Tinker's answers, blue - translator's comments.
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Awesome, Stiky. Everyone knows English. So, I'll have to use Google Translate and guess what it's about. Very solid factual basis.

Well, I understand that you come home tired from work, and you don't have time, and you don't care about your tournaments at all. But still...
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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in my opinion, стики is not obliged to translate everything that the Chinese have drawn there!
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You don't give a damn about your tournaments.
This is no longer my tournament, and it might not even be a tournament at all. So yes, organize it however you want.
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Yeah, the answers are in the style of "well, that's how I played":)
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Yegor Korobeynikov
in my opinion, Stiki is not obliged to translate everything that the Chinese have drawn!

here, no one

is obliged

to do anything

for anyone.
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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LOL))) The Chinese player, who plays the role of Captain on their side, is talking complete nonsense. He ran along the road looking for loot in the direction of his base!!!! and accidentally stumbled upon some boots. There's even a picture attached - half of an air elemental. Now I'll know - if you meet an elemental in the sands, there's loot there))) and you need to ignore everything, turn off the road, and rush there. But the treasure chest was empty, who needs that:D

And the Tinker's excuse was hilarious - earth, air - who needs it?))) This is all (censored)-nonsense))) So what if the opponent comes with a mass spell and destroys everything, but at least there's a log and he'll be running around like crazy.

In short, it's clear that they really have a different style, one that can't be understood with logic, and if you understand it, you'll be beaten.:smile22:
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Зима 2011-12.
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I read the responses, and in my opinion, they are quite logical. The only thing that raises suspicion is the boots on the balance. Indeed, it seems like he was clearly aiming for them.
He didn't take any magic skills – which is strange for us, but perhaps earth and air magic aren't that highly valued among them. And I have no other complaints.
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Juristis
I read the answers, and in my opinion, they are quite logical. The only thing that raises suspicion is the boots on the balance. Indeed, it seems like he was clearly going for them.
He didn't take any magic - which is strange for us, but for them, earth and air might not be so highly valued. And I have no other complaints.
Well, his answers can be easily found in this thread, even before the Chinese player's testimony. It goes without saying that he would deny everything. And by the way, the guard protecting the boots in the game with the Homunculus is also questionable. A player with his skill should know that 2 Beastiaries, a resource, and an artifact of level 2 will guard a maximum of 12 birds (which, in that situation, are rushing in). The only problem that could arise is a gem stack, which is not critical. And MOST IMPORTANTLY: why leave the treasure if there are clearly valuable items there, and the path to it is not short. But the opponent took it with weak units in one day...
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Зима 2011-12.

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