Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012

We could suggest that Thinkeer play with a full-screen broadcast. Let him show off his amazing skills, so to speak, in an open arena.

We could have suggested that Thinkeer play with a full-screen broadcast. To see his "megasensitivity," so to speak, in an open field.

Well, I warned about the game)) people could have asked him to show the broadcast)) if anyone was interested... but now there's already a result.

"Witch hunts" are periodically necessary...
I hope that such squabbles clear the heads of potential cheaters.
Now, in my list of people I won't play with (great alex, britva), Oelm and the Chinese player Tinker have been added.

The judge wrote that he doesn't want to argue with the Chinese... you can politely ask the Chinese player for a detailed explanation... and in the meantime, freeze the tournament for a week...

The judge wrote that he doesn't want to argue with the Chinese... perhaps you could politely ask the Chinese person for a more detailed explanation.

+1, and post his answers to the questions here; it would be very interesting to see what he says.

I'd like to reiterate my opinion on the Rebellious situation. In my opinion, online gameplay in Heroes has practically discredited itself. You can always suspect your opponent of cheating and, if necessary, post save files with questionable decisions to disqualify them from a tournament, ban them, and so on. That's why I personally haven't been interested in ranked matches for a long time. You can only be sure when playing in person. So, all these "disputes" are not worth getting worked up about. And I advise those who are shouting the loudest and "judging" not to relax – because the consequences might come back to haunt them.

Navukh, I don't remember ever expressing a desire to play with you. I'm not sure about others yet. In general, don't write to me; I won't reply in the future.

Don't forget that when you write something negative about Slava, it wasn't him who made the decision (I won't judge whether it was the right one or not).

There are judges... they voted.

Judges... I would like them to please everyone... but how to bring this desire to life... that's the question.

This is the wrong position, and you were pointed out about it in Alex's case. A judge who makes a decision, even if it's a collective one, shouldn't later deny it, saying it wasn't him, it was them. Especially if his vote went in favor of a decision that became final.

Stiky made the decision, and he is responsible for it before the public.

firstly, Heroes is not Mafia.
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What are you getting at? Is the art preparation garbage? I have a counter-question - who are you in Mafia and who are you in Heroes? I see that you have a lot of arrogance and pathos, but only 10 kopecks worth of common sense.

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So, what's the conclusion? A conspiracy against Rebel? The machinations of the evil Pete and the vile Stiky? Or is this a continuation of the art preparation? I only see an escalation of emotions in your posts, but not much constructive input.

Stiky correctly stated that it is not in his best interest as an organizer to ban anyone, especially from among the strong players. Therefore, since he did it, it means he really believes he is right.

Looking for some sympathy for Pete or antipathy towards Rebel here is absurd. I also note that Rebel's defenders mainly focus on the ethical side of the issue - "he's a great guy, why are you banning him?!"

P.S. Wic, I'll touch on your "list" (where did Thinkeer come from??). It's an interesting thing, but only for internal use. After all, you wouldn't claim that everyone on your list is a map hacker.

Thanks, Cap. I wrote the same thing above.

I will express my opinion on the situation with Rebellious again.
In my opinion, online play in Heroes has practically completely discredited itself. You can always suspect your opponent of cheating and, if necessary, post saves with ambiguous decisions in order to remove the opponent from the tournament, ban him, and so on. That's why I'm no longer interested in ranked races, for example. You can only be sure when playing live.

The position is sound, but not constructive. You can't just stop playing online for fun; you still want tournaments, including prestigious ones. Therefore, you need to somehow fight cheating; there are methods.

No one says that professional sports are discredited because of doping.

Phew, the post is gone. I'll leave just one sentence. Rebellious explained everything in the game, and that's enough for me and many other players. And they won't let Rebellious get away with anything here or on the portal. But on the tournament website, there's a notice that Rebellious's cheating was exposed. It's a miracle... As they say, he managed to have his cake and eat it too.

To Captain: Did I offer you anything? Who do you think needs you? Certainly not me.

As I was reading through your argument, I wanted to add my own.

You know, I wanted to respond to your lengthy post (even though the opportunity has passed), and explain once again why I think the way I do about Pandora with Ivor and Utopia with Shakti, but after reading this:

Pandora costs only 20 Dendroids

I completely lost the desire to do so, because your goal is not a constructive dialogue, but rather another attempt to twist things, compete, and constantly point out things that I have absolutely no desire to engage with.

P.S.: I'll repeat once again, I don't need to prove anything. If my opinion is really important to you, you can discuss it with me on AIM. And if you are protesting the ban through a response to my post, then you should address that to the moderators. They made the decision, so you should appeal to them. You always have the right to appeal, as long as you have arguments. Create a post-factum poll, and it will become clear what the public opinion is regarding the decision.

This is the wrong approach, and you were told about it back in Alex's case. It is not appropriate for a judge, even if making a decision collectively, to later deny responsibility, saying it wasn't them, it was them. Especially if their vote contributed to a decision that became final.

Stiky made the decision, and he is responsible for it before the public.

Firstly, no one is denying responsibility, saying it wasn't me, it was them. Your way of interpreting words and giving them the meaning you want is worthy of praise.
Slava said: "and by the way, the ban was issued based on the judges' vote; I didn't do it alone."
Where you see a denial of responsibility here is a mystery. It was simply a statement of facts.

Secondly, my position is based on the fact that since you chose the judges... don't blame them... they are guided by their own opinion. Please, run for judge to show your point of view.
The choice of judges (one or more) is our right. We used it.
No one is preventing you from expressing your opinion.
I believe it is wrong to blame the judges when you chose them yourself and gave them the right to decide.
It seems that if someone made a mistake, we will think more carefully before voting next time.
Let's also learn to respect the opinions of others, and not consider wrong anything that does not align with our own point of view.

Mike vs Tinkeerr GM2 on Balance.

First, I want to clarify that I watched the game to analyze the player's style and actions for similarities to a game you know. And please, no shouting that I'm defending anyone.

To start, I checked the skill tree level-up variations.
What do we have for Tsar Gnoll by the end of the game:

1 Armor
2 Leadership
3 Air
4 Earth
5 Pathfinding
6 Artillery
7 Tactics

I went through the development options. Several dead-end branches — for example, after taking Air, they offered Water, or a choice between two useless skills. But there was also one interesting branch through Pathfinding at level 2. That would later include Logistics, Offense, and Tactics, but Air would take a while to master, and Earth is offered only in the last slot, by which point a game on Balance is usually over.

Let's return to how the hero was leveled up.
1st level-up — choice between Pathfinding and Armor, we skip Pathfinding.
2nd — Armor / Scouting, naturally Armor.
4th — Leadership / Air, takes Air. Now here's a slight inconsistency with the playing style against Homunculus. There, he refused Air in a situation where Air would be more beneficial, but here, playing as Castle, he takes it. If Air is not taken, then at level 8 Water comes in.
5th — Leadership / Navigation
6th — Expert Leadership
7th and 8th — Expert Air — no other options.
9th — Earth / Sorcery, obviously Earth
10th — Advanced Earth / Tactics — we don't take Tactics. A debatable decision — in a game against Mephala and a faster ramp-up, protecting your shooters and potentially blocking the opponent's elves is clearly a beneficial move. But Mephala doesn't have Tactics and won't get it :) However, there might be an excuse — he wanted to master Earth. That's logical too.
11th — Earth / Pathfinding — takes Pathfinding, as Gnoll heads into the treasure zone on the rocks
12th — Pathfinding
13th — Pathfinding
14th — Advanced Earth
15th — Navigation / Artillery
16th — Artillery / Tactics — and there's Tactics, he takes it. That's also a bit strange — he didn't take Tactics in favor of Earth earlier, now he takes it without finishing Earth. But okay, there's a treasure zone in sight, the opponent hasn't moved to the center yet — overall, there's logic in the move.

And now, directly to the game itself.

Week 1 was played in a way that made me think — yeah, everything's fine.
There were some obvious reconnaissance blunders here and there, like Val not checking a couple of tiles she could have, where a 1000-gold chest would have been. Papashka didn't break through the fairies, even though the view beyond them would have been visible. And by the way, in that direction he immediately figured out where the ГЮ was and didn't send a scout to see the simple Genies there.
On day 1, with 30 archers, he didn't risk hitting 20 Pit Fiends on the lava for a +4 sword. The teleport right on the road at his home respawn fits the same context. Guarded by 20 Blue Elementals, he was probably afraid. In short, he played very cautiously.

But then it gets more interesting:
The most logical thing would have been to start the new week from home, boost speed at the stables, and hit the elementals to get to the secondary town. It's half a day from the castle to them. But the Chinese player runs straight off-road towards the edge of a revealed Necropolis town. It's not a short path, guarded by 20+ Mages. The Dragon sits in this castle only on day 122. Leaving 200 movement points in reserve.

Let's uncover the map:
The teleport near the castle actually ended up on the road by chance, and the real veterans know that such teleports have no road at the exit.
This trick could be justified, for example, as: the Chinese are well-versed in Balance and the guy somehow figured out that the Necro village he headed to is exactly the one that has a direct exit to the sands.

There, he immediately finds another castle, an exit to the adjacent zone, and a teleport. The Dragon acts like he owns the place. On day 122, I also found a strange move — removing the +4 stick when he was holed up in the Necro village. The opponent could have easily popped out of the fog. But the timeframe is short, so a bit of gear-swapping fun is possible. However, on day 123, Gnoll is already camping in the field, at a crossroads of 5 directions. From three directions, the opponent won't appear, but from the direction of the ГО (Hydra Conservatory) and from the direction of the secondary town in the fog, there's a possibility. But the veterans know that the opponent is busy farming their home Conservatories at this time, so he can safely stash the sword in his backpack and give the scout a full two horses to retake the town. Here I wondered, if he's so fearless, why not boost speed on the horses and send the scout with an army into the village?? Because... If he does that, the scout won't reach the main hero and will lose movement points.

And then comes a moment that is the hardest to explain.
He's at the crossroads. One road clearly leads to his own ГО, a second to the teleport to the opponent's ГО, and a third to a snowy secondary town. He chooses the first option — the road indeed leads to his own ГО, near which a piece of a gold mine is visible. And then the Swamp King takes a step off the road into the desert, and — oh, wonder — if you look closely, you can make out the edge of some Boots. The Boots are, of course, taken.

One could assume he was looking for an exit to the treasure zone, but the very next move shatters this theory completely. Now he runs to the snowy secondary town, which is the most logical place to go from the start, and he doesn't bother with any treasure zone searching off-road at all!!

That's it, I didn't watch further, but it seems to me it's not that interesting anymore. Just fattening up on the treasure zone and war with Mephala. Maybe Mike remembers something interesting.

Having watched the 3rd game already, I can confidently state: this hero of Heroes chose the ideal trajectory for the main hero in every game. Not a single mistake in choosing the direction!

Mike vs. Tinker, GM2, balanced game.

I want to clarify that I watched the game with the goal of analyzing the player's style and actions to see if they are similar to a game you are familiar with. And please, no need to shout that I'm defending someone.

I didn't quite understand the skill tree. At level 10, they gave an Earth-Tactics upgrade, and they upgraded Earth. Then, 3 levels of Pazfight, and after that, there should have been an Earth experience upgrade, not another upgrade. And at level 16, Earth was already maxed out.

And here's another analogy between this game and the game with the Homunculus:

In that game, he almost reaches the boots but, for some unknown reason, doesn't pick them up, presumably considering them a useless artifact, but here he does pick them up. Turns out they were needed after all...

The guy clearly has what it takes to participate in the next season of psychics)) a Chinese fortune teller...