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Ment, if extraterrestrial civilizations have a similar technological level to ours, then there are none within a radius of 30 light-years, because artificial radio waves would have been detected at that distance. Therefore, civilizations with a similar level of development are located quite far away, and those with much more advanced technologies are even further away, because the probability that there is an inhabited planet older than Earth with a longer history of life on it, and, consequently, with an existing highly developed civilization, is lower.

As far as I understand, there aren't too many stars within a radius of 30 light-years.

Yeah, everywhere you go, people are talking about aliens existing somewhere. Well, it's quite possible that there are life forms out there, but whether they're highly developed, I don't know...

And why would we even need these aliens? So they can enslave us all? Bah...

Well, within a radius of 17 light-years, there are 51 star systems, and among them, 45 star systems consist of yellow and orange dwarfs – stars that can exist long enough for planetary systems and life to emerge on them.

Well, yes, but it's a very small number from a statistical point of view.

Alright, guys. One more complaint on this topic, and I'll delete it without looking into who's right and who's wrong. It's in your best interest to behave properly and not give in to provocations.

What a twist!

Well, yes, but it's very little from a statistical point of view.

That's the point.
But again, we are in a region of the galaxy where there is a relatively low concentration of stars. But our region is also relatively calm because it rarely passes through the spiral arms, which have a dangerously high concentration of supernovae. And if there were many stars nearby, gravitational disturbances would cause active movement of objects from the Oort cloud, which would increase the chance of an asteroid or comet hitting our planet by several orders of magnitude. Therefore, intelligent life is most likely located in areas of the Galaxy similar to ours.

Yeah, I read something similar.

Once again, we do not know the limits of the conditions under which intelligent life can develop. Therefore, the question remains open.

But in this case, we're talking about scientific achievements that lead to immortality, right?

Yes. Are you hinting at a simple logical chain connecting science and immortality, from which we derive the identity (money or science) = (money or immortality)?
>Not everyone thinks like you.
Read this sentence fifty times.
I'll give you an example.
A person would choose money over science, but immortality over money. In this case, they should still choose science – it will lead to immortality. This sentence – "it will lead to immortality" – contains information that is inherently unreliable. Because science may invent this body and successfully transplant the person's brain into it, or it may not invent it and not transplant it. If the person in question is more inclined towards the latter, then they will still choose money rather than science, which, in their opinion, will lead to immortality in a hundred years or so. Do you understand?
>Not everyone thinks like you.
Another fifty. Just in case.

Of course, I'm saying that I'm not interested in your opinions about money or religion.

You're not interested in my opinions? Then why are you reading them?

So we're both trolling. But you started trolling, so you're the main troll.

What? I still haven't seen any arguments showing that I'm trolling.

Again, we don't know the limits of the conditions under which intelligent life can develop. Therefore, the question remains open.

Yes, this is a very complex question. The question is whether the conditions for the development of intelligent life should differ from any other life? Or do relatively favorable conditions only affect the rate of development of intelligent life, provided that there is at least some form of life?

Exactly.
And what are the criteria for evaluating intelligent life in general?

I have no idea either. The first thing that comes to mind is chordates, but that's a bit silly. After all, intelligence doesn't necessarily have to be in the form of a brain; insects, for example, seem to be able to think to some extent.

And not just insects.
Cephalopods have a very developed brain.