Rehabilitation of cheaters. — Tournament Committee

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Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2012-04-26

This poll is closed.

Yes, I wouldn’t mind playing with Katherine

25.3% 21 votes

Yes, but I won’t play with Katherine

20.5% 17 votes

No, ignore reports

14.5% 12 votes

We need to develop a system for rehabilitating cheaters

19.3% 16 votes

Cheaters should be banned

27.7% 23 votes

I don’t really care, but I like taking part in polls

16.9% 14 votes

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In reply to Heroes_3

злой_романтик

5/27/2012 8:32 PM UTC

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Heroes_3

Really?
/topic/9132/

This raises a question – what is the point of Cheat Module then? And what is the point of discussing this topic for 11 pages, and in topics similar to this one, if cheaters are still allowed in tournaments...?

This isn't an official tournament; it’s essentially a fan event. So, whether or not to allow someone using the Cheat Module into such a tournament is entirely up to the organizers. Besides, I don't see any protests among the players participating there either

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Весна 2012.

In reply to hunter98

Heroes_3

5/27/2012 8:40 PM UTC

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Oelm

This tournament does not have "official" status, and therefore the organizer has the right to manage the situation as they see fit.

How does an "unofficial" tournament (or, for example, your tournament) differ from an official one?

hunter98

And moreover, she has already shown everyone that she is correcting her behavior.

How?
And showing that you are correcting your behavior and actually correcting it are two different things, don't you think?

злой_романтик

This is not an official tournament, but rather a fan tournament, so it's up to the organizer's conscience whether or not to allow a player with a cheating history in such a tournament. Besides, I don't see any protests among the players participating there.

What does the players' protest have to do with it? The point is the meaning of having a cheating history.
The administration claims that a player with a cheating history is not allowed in tournaments, but in reality, it's different.

hunter98

5/27/2012 9:22 PM UTC

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how?
and showing that you are correcting yourself and actually correcting yourself are two different things, don't you think?

Don't nitpick words. I simply didn't intend to say anything good (or bad) about people, and I still don't. First, she went to the CIS tournament in Yekaterinburg; I don't know what happened there, but it was still a "brave" act. Second, she has already played with people, and they say she plays fairly, without cheating.
P.S. reread my previous post, or this:

they wouldn't let a notorious cheater into the tournament... =)

"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D

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Oelm

5/27/2012 9:28 PM UTC

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I don't want to go into too much detail, for obvious reasons. Take a look around the forum; it will become clearer what's what. I am responsible for my tournament, not other forum users.

Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.

In reply to hunter98

Heroes_3

5/28/2012 4:02 AM UTC

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Oelm

I don't want to start a big discussion, for obvious reasons. Take a look around the forum; it will become clearer what's what. I am responsible for my tournament, not other forum users.

You still haven't answered what makes your tournament different from the official one.

hunter98

First, she went to the CIS tournament in Yekaterinburg; I don't know what happened there, but it was still a "brave" act.

What does this act have to do with playing Heroes without cheats? So, if you go to hang out with Heroes players at a tournament (while possibly continuing to play with cheats), will your "Cheater of the Month" title be revoked? Interesting reason for rehabilitation.

hunter98

Secondly, she has already played with people, and they say she played fairly, without cheating.

Pit for LM

Katherine was awarded the "Cheater of the Month" title on March 20. The poll was organized on March 27 and closed on April 26. Not a single report appeared in the season during these one and a half months.

Sevensan

5/28/2012 5:16 AM UTC

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Who are you, anyway? You were told the girl has improved, so stop nagging.

ICQ 335-665-133
Discord Sevensan#3379

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Lider1

5/28/2012 5:19 AM UTC

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Sevensan

Who are you, anyway? You were told the girl apologized, so stop nagging.

You don't need to be Dr. Watson or Captain Obvious to understand that this is someone's clone.

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

theShevanesian

5/28/2012 5:53 AM UTC

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A clone, but I don't understand, whose.

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hunter98

5/28/2012 6:25 AM UTC

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theShevanesian

A clone, but I can't figure out whose)

Well, maybe RBV, because he won't understand why she was forgiven and he was condemned. =)

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What does this action have to do with playing Heroes without cheats? So, if you go hang out with Heroes players at a tournament (while possibly still playing with cheats), will the CHMCh be removed from you? That's an interesting reason for rehabilitation.

Well, at the very least, the banal "oh, how can I look them in the Eye," and she "looked them in the eye." And finally, I'll answer. A person, if they play, always on report? Is it forbidden by law to just play for fun? And following your logic, you could also be called a cheater if there are no reports in the season...
P.S. I won't answer these questions anymore; I'm not going to beat around the bush, because I don't see the point. If you want, you'll figure out what's what and how things are here yourself.

"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D

In reply to Heroes_3

dnaop-wr

5/28/2012 6:30 AM UTC

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Heroes_3

...and showing that you are correcting yourself and actually correcting yourself are two different things, don't you think?...

How can a person correct themselves if they are not given a chance? First, execute them, and then grant amnesty? Posthumous amnesty isn't very useful.
There are different types of people. Some can honestly admit their mistake and stop doing it. Others will never do so, because it is their way of life, a way of asserting themselves – I'm the best cheater, if you kick me out the door, I'll climb in through the window... So, you need to look not only at the fact of the action but also at the person.
Hunter98 also said something reasonable, I agree (to avoid repeating myself).

Техника в руках индейца мертва.
Справочник по НоММ-4 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-heroes-iv.html

Памятка по НоММ-3 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii.html
и HotA http://handbookhmm.ru/vyishla-obnovlennaya-pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii-hota.html

theShevanesian

5/28/2012 6:46 AM UTC

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Come on, don't fall for the troll's bait.

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Dirty_Player

5/28/2012 12:44 PM UTC

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Heroes_3

What is the difference between an "unofficial" tournament (or, for example, your tournament) and an official one?

An official tournament is one that has been agreed upon with the Creator (the main forum administrator), and an announcement about it is posted on the main page of the website, and a reward is mandatory. There are no other significant differences.

In reply to hunter98

KobRa_RR

5/28/2012 1:59 PM UTC

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hunter98

Yes, maybe RBV will be upset because she won't understand why she was forgiven, but he was condemned. =)

Yes, because you don't have breasts :p

In reply to KobRa_RR

hunter98

5/28/2012 2:54 PM UTC

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KobRa_RR

Because you don't have boobs :p

Me?))) Well, I mean... ahem, ahem, I'm not supposed to have them :D. And I think it's not me who should be saying that, but RBV. What do I have to do with it?! =)</

"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D

In reply to Heroes_3

Дубровин Павел

5/28/2012 3:51 PM UTC

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Heroes_3

AK claims that a player with a Black Mark does not qualify for tournaments, but in reality, it's different.

In reality, things are different…

At one time, the issue of the power of AK’s decision regarding the Black Mark was raised… like, should AK’s decision on the Black Mark have such authority that the Player loses the ability to participate in all Tournaments?

/topic/7215/

As a result, since the poll showed roughly equal numbers “for” and “against,” it was decided to leave everything as it was, meaning that having a Black Mark does not mean being excluded from participating in Tournaments organized outside the auspices of the Tournament Committee.

/topic/6100/

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