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What the situation actually is, according to a pro like Dirty_player, at least that's how he presents himself.

I got a D in physics.

And does that apply to sex too?:smile52:

After reading Aripoutra’s posts, I feel like I’ve seen it all.

After 20 years of marriage, ANY man in ANY family turns into a miserable person, even if everything seems normal on the surface. You'll understand this with time. Even when everything is great in the family, it starts to resemble the tale of the fisherman and the fish (Pushkin was a genius, he understood the issue).

Have you lived in a marriage for 20 years? Why talk about something you don't know?

And does it apply to sex too?:smile52:

What is that? :confused: We didn't have that subject in school.

After seeing Arriputra's posts, I can say that I've seen everything in life.

:D :D :D

Good thing I don't see his posts :D

The last 2 words are blasphemy; there is no one above Him, God is love and if someone loves, it means God is within them (not to be confused with passion) and at the end of earthly life you will stand before Him, and wondering then whether life on earth or there was more important will be too late. The body dies, not the soul.
Please read this site so you can understand my questions to you. I am not forcing them upon you, but it would be incorrect to answer without knowing what I am basing them on: http://www.truechristianity.info/don...eve_in_god.php
Then perhaps you will understand me, and I would be happy to read whatever you suggest to me.

A father for a son, a husband for a wife, a teacher for a student — is above God.
Max, this is not blasphemy:

God is the original perfect personality; He resides in the heart of every living being (we don't even control our own bodies; we only want to speak, go somewhere, move, we want food to be digested — the stomach is a highly complex chemical reactor in which same-complex biochemical processes occur that we know nothing about at all, but all these processes, the mechanics of which we do not understand, happen as soon as we want them to; we want to move our hand and it moves, we want to speak and we speak, but do we really know which muscles go where with what effort, in what sequence and how they must move so that the hand rises? What nerve impulses, from where, to where and at what speed must they travel for certain processes in the body to occur? At what speed, at what angle, with what periodicity must the tongue and larynx move just to say something? We don't even think about it, but nevertheless all these complex processes happen as soon as we want them to — God completely controls our body in accordance with our desires and karma), He possesses 6 main assets: beauty (He is the most attractive personality), wealth (all the riches of the world belong to Him), fame (the source of any talent in any person is this original perfect personality), strength (He is the strength of the strong), knowledge (He is the original source of all knowledge) and renunciation (and at the same time He is also the most renounced), He is the Greatest Personality,

A father, husband, teacher are representatives of God for a son, wife, student respectively; none of them are God and none are above Him, but they should be treated as God (son to father, wife to husband, student to teacher)

A father specifically for a son is above God, a husband for a wife, a teacher for a student — meaning that they should be treated as God, and when God sees such an attitude He is pleased with that person, and when God is pleased, He will not remain in debt.

Moreover, He is the most perfect servant. "There is someone who has fulfilled the desires of living beings since time immemorial".

Desires are the main aspect of a human; God resides not only in the heart of every living being but also in every atom — He sanctions any strongest desire of the soul, regardless of whether it is good or bad. Before this, through various sources and methods, He warns about the consequences. But gripped by longing, a living being strives for their coveted desires, plans, goals, like a long-time drug addict for a dose.

Did you all just @go crazy or what?
Is it true that spring has such an effect?

Well done; instead of a bucket of shit, only two lines. At this rate, in maybe 25 years, you might write something good (without malice and aggression, arrogant sarcasm — there is no dignity in that),

And as for the fact that you don't see my posts, it may actually be a good thing; they are of no use to you.

Practice shows that, as a rule, guys who are tough online
are nothing more than cowards in reality.

You allow yourself to behave rudely and boorishly with aggression and malice only because something falls outside the boundaries of your own ideas, outside the boundaries of your worldview, only because you don't like something;
this says that you are simply uneducated. And the shit you poured on me in private messages, without any basis or reason, your unmotivated aggression and malice, speaks for you (censorship, equivalent — speaks for itself).

A man who seriously considers himself smarter than a woman is already a finished loser.
Ariputra, sorry, but in my opinion, you're talking nonsense.
By the way, if a man drops 10 sticks, does he lose 4 liters? Maybe we should prescribe milk for hazardous work?

And a person who a priori considers themselves slightly (meaning completely) smarter and better than another, even without basis — ?

Well, I think you're talking nonsense, and with enviable consistency.
This was me trying to answer you by taking your point of view, your convenient position.

Every person, oelm, looks at the world, the people surrounding them, the reality surrounding them through the prism of their own mind; such is a person's mind, such is their perception, meaning everyone thinks of another as they are themselves. If something in me irritates you, then it is a sure sign that this exists in you too, otherwise it wouldn't irritate you. We all mirror each other. Before editing, you wrote there that you see reflection and self-pity in me, but why do you think you saw specifically that among everything else? :rolleyes:

If a man drops 10 sticks, then with great probability he is just a little liar; well, I think you won't be offended, I asked purely theoretically, not meaning yourself.

What you are saying reminds me very much of the style of some Discovery documentary. Also, I don't rule out that you attend (or watch recordings of) lectures that preach these thoughts.
Why, when I became acquainted with these ideas: about 7 mental shells, etheric bodies, souls etc., and so on, why did I look at all this skeptically? And most people, I think, feel the same way. Imho, because the consciousness immediately rejects this information as knowingly false, but why? Because the source is "heard it from someone" (OBS). All claims refer to newspapers, movies and some authorities. It seems more to me that periodically the media makes an epic dump into the masses; some manage to separate the wheat from the chaff, while others put on a cassock and go preach.
A person gets what they believe in. If it really seems that after sex a man becomes stupider, so be it!

What is wrong with a person, in accordance with their beliefs, going to a Christian church, a Muslim mosque, a temple of Vedic culture or a Buddhist temple? I write about what interests me; I am not forcing my understanding of the sacred scriptures or any other understanding upon you, and I am not insulting you. If you disagree — please.

The esoteric nature of Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and Vedic literature speaks of the existence of mental shells, etheric bodies, and the soul — the most living entity; even modern materialistic science recognizes this, having come to this conclusion experimentally (for example, there is an experiment with weighing the subtle body, whose established weight within the experiment was 16 grams, etc.). But we don't; we don't believe in anything, and we are skeptical of weights that contradict our own ideas, simply because we are proud, that's all.

You think that most people think exactly as you do because everyone thinks of another as they are themselves, looking at the world through the prism of their own mind.

Further, you assume (meaning you definitely don't know), but one way or another assert that consciousness immediately rejects this information as knowingly false.
Consciousness, Reason may reject something if it does not correspond to its current state, its current ideas with which a person identifies; that is, if some knowledge, information, assertion does not correspond to our own current ideas (which we, due to pride, consider the only correct ones), then naturally any knowledge that does not correspond to our "knowingly correct" ideas, we consider false and knowingly so.
But to consider something knowingly false just because it doesn't correspond to our own "knowingly correct" ideas is, to put it mildly, not reasonable.

By the way, the word "заведомо" (knowingly) that you use carries the root — "veda". The word veda or vedas literally translates from Sanskrit as — knowledge, and the prefix "za-" (beyond/behind) indicates that knowingly correct information is information whose correctness follows from the "Vedas" — Vedic literature; accordingly, knowingly false is information whose falsity also follows from the "Vedas".

The source of what I am talking about is by no means OBS, movies, newspapers, etc.; the source is Vedic literature:
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According to materialistic scientists (who came to this conclusion through carbon analysis), the oldest literature on earth is Vedic literature (which contains information about physics, chemistry, mathematics, medicine, atomic energy, etc., and all spheres of human life); for example, Einstein took his theory of relativity from the Vedas, records of this remained in his biography; all modern rocket technology was also taken from there: evidence has been preserved in temples of Vedic culture that Hitler bought a work such as — Vimanika Shastra — a description of flying apparatuses for crazy money, and through Wernher von Braun implemented one of the simplest flying apparatuses from it — the modern rocket; not long ago, modern scientists, as a result of research on cow dung, came to the conclusion that it is a powerful antiseptic; this was written in one of the sections of the Vedas 5 thousand years ago; Christ from age 13 to 30 traveled through modern India studying Vedic literature, on the basis of which he created Christian culture; evidence of this remains in the form of records by servants of that time in temples of Jagannath Puri, Navadvipa Maypur and other cities; Ayurvedic medicine is successfully used today in the treatment of a huge number of diseases; 5 thousand years ago, the atomic and subatomic levels were described there, elementary particles that were discovered by modern science not long ago, the structure of the solar system with parameters that correspond to experimental conclusions of modern science, etc. all this directly or indirectly says that this literature is not mistaken
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A source that matches one-to-one a huge number of modern scientific discoveries (the part where women become smarter from sex does not match), could it be non-authoritative?

Another question is that my understanding of information from Vedic literature, the Bible, the Quran and so on may be far from the truth. But the sacred scriptures themselves are not mistaken.

On what basis do you conclude that you managed to separate the wheat from the chaff, only on the basis of whether it corresponds to your own ideas?

Everything is correct: a person gets what they believe in, but what is faith?

Faith is complete conviction in something based on knowledge; faith devoid of knowledge turns into sentimentalism or fanaticism; knowledge devoid of faith (conviction) — philosophical speculation.

Answer the question: why do men in all countries live 10-15 years less than women on average?
Simply denying something without figuring out the situation, without trying to analyze it, study it, denying only because it does not correspond to my own ideas is already not reasonable, and you say that sex has no effect on the mind and other psycho-physical parameters of the gross and subtle bodies of a man.

Message from ihtiandr:

Message from R55Max
Over 20 years, any man and any woman together will eat more than a pood of salt! To love or be satiated by the body of one's wife is incorrect; it is correct to love the body of one's wife until death and to love her soul after death.

Again, a collection of words that has nothing to do with the topic of the dialogue. Be patient, in time perhaps you will understand.

You are tossing from one extreme to another, jumping from topic to topic; here you'll start losing your own way. You speak and scatter yourself across many unrelated things, and on top of all that, your judgments are extremely blasphemous and have no materials confirming "your" positions (re-read these crude, incorrect, groundless judgments and statements of yours that are not related to the topic):

where it started:

Message from R55Max:
I heard on TV that scientists have proven (without getting into professional terminology, the essence is as follows): the more often a man has sex, the stupider he becomes, and the woman smarter. And it's not hard to imagine what masturbating men become. Every production of male seminal material naturally requires restoration, of course, and if they are too frequent (how many was not stated, depending on the individual human organism), there is a withdrawal of substances necessary for restoration that were intended for the development of other necessary qualities of the organism in the person. That is, there is a deficit in the development of thinking, reaction, speed of movement, coordination, clarity of mind, logic, etc.

Message from ihtiandr:
You shouldn't believe some frigid feminists who wish to bring men down through perverted means.

Where is it written that the TV host is a frigid feminist? It is naive to think that the host of a program leads the program based on her own considerations, and one should not condemn without proof! Give your information refuting what I heard on TV and then I will believe you, not her and don't tell me what I should or should not believe if you yourself can't prove the correctness of your judgments at all!

Comparing the intelligence of a woman and a man is pointless. A woman's mind is directed toward two goals - giving birth to a child and making a slave of the man for her whole life. They don't give a damn about anything else. How many great historical female figures can you remember?

What does COMPARING MINDS have to do with this? It was said that some get smarter, others stupider relative to themselves! What difference does it make who is smarter; that's not the topic.

That is, if a righteous man has 3 children, did he fuck 3 times in his life?)) The Lord said "Be fruitful and multiply," meaning fuck as much as you want. When you contradict your desires, you contradict the desire of the Lord, from which you will not escape anyway. Because the Lord is in each of us, and we are in Him. And His ways are inscrutable. If most people constantly fuck and have fun, it means that's what the Lord wants, and there is nothing wrong with that.

From such words, it's simply obvious how huge and opaque the veil over your eyes and mind is! You wrote this, and the Lord "probably cannot find a place for Himself in paradise and walks from corner to corner, having heard such blasphemous and terrible speeches."

The Lord does not want everyone to have fun and fuck; on the contrary, He asks for humility, mercy, faithfulness, and the struggle against passions! He wants them to listen and hear Him, not do whatever they want.
To understand what He needs - learn the church's requirements for true Christians. All sexual contacts ideally should take place only after marriage and only with one person, with whom you have joined your flesh once and for a lifetime. And the body of the wife does not belong to her, just as the body of the husband does not belong to him, since they are one flesh.

The current generation goes to be baptized anyway, but they don't know why or what this sacrament means - everyone just goes because others go. And they also don't know what obligations wearing a pectoral cross imposes on a person, not to mention all other church rites and their meanings. So, as long as you have no knowledge of the church, God, you should not speak on these topics at all; do not dig a hole for yourself with such conclusions.

What are we obliged to know?

The will of God and what deeds are virtues, and which are sins, we must all know. And whoever does not do this sins before God. And it turns out that whoever keeps themselves in darkness and ignorance sins twice: both by not knowing the will of God, and by not using means to learn it and deliberately "keeping oneself in darkness" (St. Theophan the Recluse).

How to obtain righteous thinking?

The beginning of a righteous way of thought is listening to and reading the Word of God and [the works of] the holy fathers (Venerable Ephrem the Syrian).
http://www.truechristianity.info/library/1380_sovietov_batushki.php

True, because a woman has no mind of her own))

Words of an unwise man (if you truly believe this sincerely), nothing more.

Generally, all these today's unspoken rules of the sacrament of sex are amusing. Everyone around is fucking, but they are ashamed to talk about it as a simple realization of their instincts. And if suddenly a child finds out that he resulted from the insertion of a penis into a vagina, then it's just horror, the psyche will be permanently damaged, and he'll spend the rest of his life in a mental asylum. In my opinion, when a child is frightened by all this bullshit throughout childhood and told that one must under no circumstances masturbate, and then he grows up and finds out that in reality everyone around does nothing but fuck, that's when his psyche can actually be damaged and he'll start taking revenge on this world)) So all these high-minded conversations around sex are empty lies; it's better to just enjoy life and fuck whoever you want than to fuck your own brain over this topic)

Heh. well where is the reason, it's even embarrassing to laugh


I won't list any further; I hope you understood that the response from your side to my post should be a refutation of what was said in the TV program, the meaning of which is this: the more often a man has sex, the stupider he becomes, and the woman smarter (each relative to themselves)

Better not get into church topics until you've brushed up on your knowledge, because at the moment you are dark as night.

I'll leave other topics for other users to discuss :D (for now :) )

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Message from ariputra:
A father for a son, a husband - for a wife, a teacher - for a student - is higher than God.
Max, this is not blasphemy

I didn't say enough, or rather I didn't think that others might not understand and skipped over this nuance:
God places us above Himself, as He is merciful and omnipotent and Christ died for us, taking upon Himself the sins of humanity, for our sake, sacrificing Himself. A person should also act thus - forgive and not place oneself above God!

we don't even think about it, but nevertheless all these complex processes happen as soon as we want them to - God completely controls our body in accordance with our desires and karma

Not quite. Everything we do - we do ourselves exclusively based on our choices. Throughout earthly life, a person undergoes a struggle with evil and acts one way or another (good or bad). Beside a Christian there is a guardian angel and a demon; the angel tries to guide, the demon - to lead away from the right path, but the Lord leaves the right of choice for every person and we go either toward Him - toward love, or away from it; all life on earth is a chance to come to God or remain in hell after death if we do not come to Him. If God guided us - we would all be in paradise. After death comes "a certain calculation" of what the person did wrong and right, and based on this, the person goes either to hell or to paradise. Read about the afterlife toll-houses: http://www.truechristianity.info/feodora_tribulations.html

Guys, what are you smoking? Elven leaf?:D

They found each other! Now they are competing to see who has the longer bedsheet :D

It’s better if they compete in bedsheet measurements than…

It's better if they compete in bedsheet measurements than...

They already competed in that about 5 pages ago :D

Well, it was a tie 5 pages ago, and now we've moved on to lengthy discussions... so it must have been a draw:D

Well, what exactly is meant by the word "intelligence"? If it means that men have more achievements in science, and that they play chess better, etc., then men are certainly more intelligent. Although, I guess it's not just about intelligence... I don't even know. Has anyone ever thought about what an indicator of intelligence would be?

Intelligence is one of the subtle mental sheaths that covers the soul – the living being itself. Intelligence has its nature and functions: The nature of intelligence: to enjoy, to take, and to dominate. Main functions: to distinguish between pleasant and unpleasant things, and to think. The primary function of intelligence is to perceive and realize external influences, and to transmit information to the ego, intellect, etc. These perceptions are then transmitted through the mind to the motor organs, resulting in actions such as: reflection, discussion, hypothesis creation, concentration, decision-making. Mental disposition (manasa prakriti) Mental activity can be of three types: sattvic, rajasic, and tamasic. The sattvic mental disposition is free from flaws and possesses qualities such as kindness, sincerity, truthfulness, and purity. The rajasic disposition is characterized by passion and anger. The tamasic disposition is characterized by ignorance, passivity, and sleepiness. There are countless combinations of these three aspects of mentality. Sometimes mental abilities are determined by the physical qualities of a person, and sometimes vice versa. With a more detailed division, there are seven varieties of sattvic, six of rajasic, and three of tamasic mental dispositions. http://aauumm.ru/post145971862/ http://ayurlife.com.ua/ru/ayrveda/principi_ayrvedi.html

After the ariputra fasts, I can say that I have seen everything in life.

The judgment of that ironic person is obvious, but everyone thinks about something else, reflecting on themselves.

I didn't quite explain it, or rather, I didn't think that others might not understand and skipped over this nuance:
God places us above Himself because He is merciful and all-powerful, and Christ died for us, taking upon Himself the sins of humanity, for our sake, sacrificing Himself. A person should also act in the same way – forgive and not put themselves above God!

I meant that a person, for example, a wife, should not put herself above God, but her husband above God, above Providence (of course, her husband is not absolutely above God), meaning that she should treat her husband as if he were God; this is beneficial for her. The most interesting thing is that God is pleased with such an attitude of a wife towards her husband; such a woman receives everything.

Not quite. Everything we do – we do ourselves, solely based on our choices.

I meant that we do not control our physical body ourselves (we do control it, but indirectly, that is, we control our body through desires), but it is directly controlled by Paramatma – the localized aspect of God, God in the heart of every living being. We desire, and Paramatma controls our body, that is, it does what we want (but in accordance with our karma). Choice is a consequence of our desires; we desire and choose ourselves, but our desires depend on many factors, from communication, from upbringing, from activities in previous lives, and much more. A living being in the material world can only desire and regret its desires. And the link you provided contains a very good and interesting article.

Message from ariputra:

I meant that a person, for example, a wife, should not place herself above God, but should place her husband above God (of course, her husband is not absolutely above God), meaning that she should treat her husband as if he were God; this is beneficial for her. The most interesting thing is that God is pleased with such an attitude of a wife towards her husband; such a woman receives everything.

A wife should not place her husband above God; there is no benefit in treating a man as God; this is a natural statement of God, which is actually "disadvantageous" for the man, and it places much greater responsibility on the husband in the family, because the husband is God, and the wife is the Church. The wife should honor her husband as the Church honors God, and the husband should treat his wife as God treats the Church.

I meant that we do not control our physical body ourselves (we do control it, but indirectly, that is, we control our body through desires), but it is directly controlled by the Paramatma - the localized aspect of God, God in the heart of every living being. We desire, but the Paramatma controls our body, that is, it does what we want (but in accordance with our karma).

Choice is a consequence of our desires; we desire and choose ourselves, but our desires depend on many factors, from communication, from upbringing, from activities in previous lives, and much more.

We control our body indirectly only because external factors of the "invisible" (good and evil) affect the body. The emergence of desires is not the cause of action. He who follows his heart will die; he who lives in wisdom will be saved. This says that not all desires should be obeyed; they need to be rationally distinguished in comparison with evil and good deeds. But we act exclusively by ourselves.
The concepts of Paramatma and karma do not exist in Christianity, at least I haven't heard of them; I can't say anything or express an opinion about this.