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Message from ihtiandr:
Message from R55Max
Over 20 years, any man and any woman together will eat more than a pood of salt! To love or be satiated by the body of one's wife is incorrect; it is correct to love the body of one's wife until death and to love her soul after death.
Again, a collection of words that has nothing to do with the topic of the dialogue. Be patient, in time perhaps you will understand.

You are tossing from one extreme to another, jumping from topic to topic; here you'll start losing your own way. You speak and scatter yourself across many unrelated things, and on top of all that, your judgments are extremely blasphemous and have no materials confirming "your" positions (re-read these crude, incorrect, groundless judgments and statements of yours that are not related to the topic):

where it started:
Message from R55Max:
I heard on TV that scientists have proven (without getting into professional terminology, the essence is as follows): the more often a man has sex, the stupider he becomes, and the woman smarter. And it's not hard to imagine what masturbating men become. Every production of male seminal material naturally requires restoration, of course, and if they are too frequent (how many was not stated, depending on the individual human organism), there is a withdrawal of substances necessary for restoration that were intended for the development of other necessary qualities of the organism in the person. That is, there is a deficit in the development of thinking, reaction, speed of movement, coordination, clarity of mind, logic, etc.

Message from ihtiandr:
You shouldn't believe some frigid feminists who wish to bring men down through perverted means.
Where is it written that the TV host is a frigid feminist? It is naive to think that the host of a program leads the program based on her own considerations, and one should not condemn without proof! Give your information refuting what I heard on TV and then I will believe you, not her and don't tell me what I should or should not believe if you yourself can't prove the correctness of your judgments at all!
Comparing the intelligence of a woman and a man is pointless. A woman's mind is directed toward two goals - giving birth to a child and making a slave of the man for her whole life. They don't give a damn about anything else. How many great historical female figures can you remember?
What does COMPARING MINDS have to do with this? It was said that some get smarter, others stupider relative to themselves! What difference does it make who is smarter; that's not the topic.
That is, if a righteous man has 3 children, did he fuck 3 times in his life?)) The Lord said "Be fruitful and multiply," meaning fuck as much as you want. When you contradict your desires, you contradict the desire of the Lord, from which you will not escape anyway. Because the Lord is in each of us, and we are in Him. And His ways are inscrutable. If most people constantly fuck and have fun, it means that's what the Lord wants, and there is nothing wrong with that.
From such words, it's simply obvious how huge and opaque the veil over your eyes and mind is! You wrote this, and the Lord "probably cannot find a place for Himself in paradise and walks from corner to corner, having heard such blasphemous and terrible speeches."

The Lord does not want everyone to have fun and fuck; on the contrary, He asks for humility, mercy, faithfulness, and the struggle against passions! He wants them to listen and hear Him, not do whatever they want.
To understand what He needs - learn the church's requirements for true Christians. All sexual contacts ideally should take place only after marriage and only with one person, with whom you have joined your flesh once and for a lifetime. And the body of the wife does not belong to her, just as the body of the husband does not belong to him, since they are one flesh.

The current generation goes to be baptized anyway, but they don't know why or what this sacrament means - everyone just goes because others go. And they also don't know what obligations wearing a pectoral cross imposes on a person, not to mention all other church rites and their meanings. So, as long as you have no knowledge of the church, God, you should not speak on these topics at all; do not dig a hole for yourself with such conclusions.

What are we obliged to know?

The will of God and what deeds are virtues, and which are sins, we must all know. And whoever does not do this sins before God. And it turns out that whoever keeps themselves in darkness and ignorance sins twice: both by not knowing the will of God, and by not using means to learn it and deliberately "keeping oneself in darkness" (St. Theophan the Recluse).

How to obtain righteous thinking?

The beginning of a righteous way of thought is listening to and reading the Word of God and [the works of] the holy fathers (Venerable Ephrem the Syrian).
http://www.truechristianity.info/library/1380_sovietov_batushki.php
True, because a woman has no mind of her own))
Words of an unwise man (if you truly believe this sincerely), nothing more.
Generally, all these today's unspoken rules of the sacrament of sex are amusing. Everyone around is fucking, but they are ashamed to talk about it as a simple realization of their instincts. And if suddenly a child finds out that he resulted from the insertion of a penis into a vagina, then it's just horror, the psyche will be permanently damaged, and he'll spend the rest of his life in a mental asylum. In my opinion, when a child is frightened by all this bullshit throughout childhood and told that one must under no circumstances masturbate, and then he grows up and finds out that in reality everyone around does nothing but fuck, that's when his psyche can actually be damaged and he'll start taking revenge on this world)) So all these high-minded conversations around sex are empty lies; it's better to just enjoy life and fuck whoever you want than to fuck your own brain over this topic)
Heh. well where is the reason, it's even embarrassing to laugh


I won't list any further; I hope you understood that the response from your side to my post should be a refutation of what was said in the TV program, the meaning of which is this: the more often a man has sex, the stupider he becomes, and the woman smarter (each relative to themselves)

Better not get into church topics until you've brushed up on your knowledge, because at the moment you are dark as night.

I'll leave other topics for other users to discuss :D (for now :) )

Added after 18 minutes
Message from ariputra:
A father for a son, a husband - for a wife, a teacher - for a student - is higher than God.
Max, this is not blasphemy
I didn't say enough, or rather I didn't think that others might not understand and skipped over this nuance:
God places us above Himself, as He is merciful and omnipotent and Christ died for us, taking upon Himself the sins of humanity, for our sake, sacrificing Himself. A person should also act thus - forgive and not place oneself above God!
we don't even think about it, but nevertheless all these complex processes happen as soon as we want them to - God completely controls our body in accordance with our desires and karma
Not quite. Everything we do - we do ourselves exclusively based on our choices. Throughout earthly life, a person undergoes a struggle with evil and acts one way or another (good or bad). Beside a Christian there is a guardian angel and a demon; the angel tries to guide, the demon - to lead away from the right path, but the Lord leaves the right of choice for every person and we go either toward Him - toward love, or away from it; all life on earth is a chance to come to God or remain in hell after death if we do not come to Him. If God guided us - we would all be in paradise. After death comes "a certain calculation" of what the person did wrong and right, and based on this, the person goes either to hell or to paradise. Read about the afterlife toll-houses: http://www.truechristianity.info/feodora_tribulations.html

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