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Yes, it's a shame.
The guys created such a great game, but it didn't succeed. The graphics are even better than Blizzard's.
The main thing is that the game doesn't completely fail.
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Why bother? Everyone knows where to find a fan-made guide, and it contains the stats for the Sanctuary and everything else.
 

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Ment, this is so that it can be viewed on the forum.

Chingis, I meant not just a table, but also some analysis of this information ;). And I will trim the table and re-upload it to your post if you don't mind.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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I understand. I need to think about it a bit. I'll edit the table later. Maybe we should create a special thread called "Comparative Characteristics of Creatures"? Otherwise, the tables will get lost, and it will be difficult to find them in the general section.
I told you: I'll move them to the "Information" section for each faction so they don't get lost ;). And for now, it's not a comparative table.

I've already edited the table in your post, please check it.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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realized that Heroes 6 is a huge project. More complex than all existing RPGs.
I'm trying to understand how you can compare a turn-based strategy game with an RPG.
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Ment
Not just a little. They were openly accused of being responsible for all the existing problems in the game, without exception. And the accusations were quite well-argued.
I agree with you... I just didn't want to make Ubisoft feel even worse.;)
In the repost, I read (if I remember correctly) that if the current state of affairs among the developers doesn't change, we'll have to wait several years for all the fixes and patches. Is that true?
I took this information from the repost: "Such a project can only be finished with good quality if there are several years and a huge budget (i.e. Blizzard games), or if there is a strict design lock date after 7-9 months of the start of development.."
Translation: "Such a project can only be finished with good quality only within several years and with a large budget (...), or..."
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I'm trying to understand how you can compare a turn-based strategy game with an RPG.
Quote from the repost: "As for the many bugs: Heroes 6 is a gigantic project, with 1.5-2 million lines in the source code. This is bigger than most RPGs."
My translation: "As for the many bugs: Heroes 6 is a gigantic project, with 1.5-2 million lines in the source code. This is much bigger than in most RPGs." I'm not a translator, of course;). So don't judge me too harshly...
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Translation: "Such a project can only be completed with good quality over several years and with a large budget (...), or..."
I think the point was that Ubisoft didn't provide either during the game's development.
 

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It would also be possible to create an HTML table; it would take a little time, but it would be perfect for displaying on the forum.
 

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I think what was meant was that Ubisoft didn't provide either during the game's development.
Sorry, but it's a shame I can't participate in the discussion because I won't be able to play the 6th installment until July.
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I have a question: How much longer will Heroes 6 last? The Might and Magic series was good, but some of the unique elements that were a hallmark of the old universe – its vastness – were what everyone liked. The time for Might and Magic 4 arrived. The experiments ended in a major failure, but add-ons were still released for it. This was due to the fact that 3DO's treasury was becoming increasingly empty. Heroes had to be sold. Now, Ubisoft owns Heroes. Nival joined the development of a new installment, and for Ubisoft's sake, they began creating a new universe, heavily constrained by the laws of canonical fantasy. There were again experiments, such as the second upgrade (personally, I find this extremely unpleasant). The world was glad to see Heroes reborn in a new form, and rumors about Might and Magic 6 began to circulate. Then, everyone learned that the Might and Magic 6 series was closed, but now it's just Might and Magic. Heroes 6 (The name itself, although it connects the game to the Might and Magic series, looks somewhat silly). Again, an even number, and again experiments (I like everything except the connection to the Conflux). The game failed... Is this a repeat of history? Not quite. Ubisoft didn't have money from the start, and they sacrificed Black Hole to create Heroes. Without a budget and time, they created a decent game that even exceeded Ubisoft's expectations (read in that post what Ubisoft wanted from Black Hole). They had to sacrifice stability and one faction (the Academy). Yes, now it's clear to many that the Academy is what was cut from the original game, and not a reference to future add-ons (many still think that the Academy will definitely be in the add-on, based on its presence in the editor). Will there be an add-on? There's no money. You won't find any companies willing to finish the series for free. And Ubisoft's hypocrisy prevents them from making concessions and possibly... selling the game to another company. If they don't sell it, we'll see at most one add-on, with only Dark Elves and a plot that will end quickly, and... Heroes will become a long-term project or a permanent resident of the scrap heap. The series will end with Ubisoft's bankruptcy, and they won't care about selling their games anymore. And no one, except those who really love the series, will want to make a game like it, and even then, it will either be unfinished or made in the style of the updated Heroes 3, which, although it has become the ideal of the series, is already quite outdated, and the graphics, which will probably be even worse than in the new series, won't save the 5th installment. And all the enthusiasts will only lose money. But let's think about utopias and the possibility that they will create two add-ons with two factions each, as promised, and then we'll see...
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1. Randomly. It could be 2, 3, 4, or 5. 2. The percentages indicate how much damage the unit will not receive. That is, if the spell dealt 100 damage, the Shark Guards would only receive 93. 3. It seems like they will be added. The percentage of damage that the Shark Guard will not receive depends on the value of the total defense (see point 2). 4. This means that if the distance to the enemy is greater than half the field, the enemy will receive half the damage. If it's "full range," then the penalty does not apply. 5. I don't even know. I suggested this to you because you were enthusiastic :). Perhaps it would be worth writing some tactics for the game that would enhance the advantages or weaken the disadvantages revealed by analyzing the characteristics of the creatures? Or, for example, compare the creatures of all factions, rank them by usefulness, and write tactics... In general, do what HugoCorner used to do.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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I have a question: How much longer will Heroes 6 last?
The Might and Magic series was good, but some of the unique elements that were a hallmark of the old universe – its vastness – were what everyone liked. The time for Might and Magic 4 came. The experiments ended in a major failure, but add-ons were still released for it. This was due to the fact that 3DO's treasury was becoming increasingly empty. Heroes had to be sold. Now, Ubisoft owns Heroes. Nival joined the development of a new installment, and for Ubisoft's sake, they began creating a new universe, heavily constrained by the laws of canonical fantasy. There were again experiments, such as the second upgrade (personally, I don't like this at all). The world was glad to see the revival of Heroes in a new form, and rumors about Might and Magic 6 began to circulate.
Then everyone found out that the Might and Magic 6 series was closed, but now it's just Might and Magic. Heroes 6 (The name itself, although it connects the game to the Might and Magic series, looks a bit silly). Again, an even number and again experiments (I like everything except the connection to the Conflux). The game failed... Is this a repeat of history? Not quite. Ubisoft didn't have the money from the start, and they sacrificed Black Hole to create Heroes. Without a budget and time, they created a decent game that even exceeded Ubisoft's expectations (read in that post what Ubisoft wanted from Black Hole). They had to sacrifice stability and one faction (the Academy). Yes, now it's clear to many that the Academy is what was cut from the original game, and not a reference to future add-ons (many still think that the Academy will be 100% in the add-on, based on its presence in the editor). Will there be an add-on? There is no money. You won't find any companies willing to finish the series for free. And Ubisoft's hypocrisy prevents them from making concessions and possibly... selling the game to another company. If they don't sell it, then at best we will see one add-on, with one Dark Elf faction and a plot that will end quickly, and... Heroes will become a long-term project or a permanent resident of the scrap heap. The series will end with Ubisoft's bankruptcy, and they will no longer care about selling their games. And no one, except those who really love the series, will want to make a game like it, and even then, it will either not be finished or will be made in the style of the updated Heroes 3, which, although it has become the ideal of the series, is already quite outdated, and the graphics, which will probably be even worse than in the new series, will not save the 5th part. And all the enthusiasts will only lose money.
But let's think about utopias and the possibility that they will create two add-ons with two factions each, as promised, and then we'll see...


if they go bankrupt, blizzzzzzzzzard will buy it and make World of Heroes Might and Magic :D but that's unlikely, so it's better to hope for the best outcome

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