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Should reports from Katherine be taken into account for the season ranking?
83 voters
Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2012-04-26
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Yes, I wouldn’t mind playing with Katherine
25.3% 21 votes
Yes, but I won’t play with Katherine
20.5% 17 votes
No, ignore reports
14.5% 12 votes
We need to develop a system for rehabilitating cheaters
19.3% 16 votes
Cheaters should be banned
27.7% 23 votes
I don’t really care, but I like taking part in polls
16.9% 14 votes
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I don't understand what the point of cheating here is. Is it some kind of way to feel good about yourself?
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Burn it, and then you can forgive...

But to the point - the written post was deleted due to the move :(

1) stream the entire desktop (doesn't provide protection, but it's more for rehabilitation)

2) create a topic: "Reports from the DARK side", after 30-50 (???) reports, you might start to appreciate cheaters and start playing fairly.
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scorp
Burn them, and then you can forgive...

As for the matter at hand, the post was deleted due to the move.

1) Stream the entire desktop (doesn't provide protection, but it's more for rehabilitation).

2) Create a thread: "Reports from the DARK side," and after 30-50 (???) reports, you might find that they themselves start to condemn cheaters and begin to play fairly.
They'll probably just create a new account...
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Exit
he'll probably just create a new account...
Why don't you try it yourself, just out of curiosity, and post a couple more victories you achieved – you'll see what happens. ;)
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PReDS
Try it yourself, just out of curiosity, and post a couple more victories you achieved – you'll see what happens. ;)
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scorp...
1) stream the entire working desktop (doesn't provide protection, but it's more for rehabilitation)

2) create a topic: "Reports from the DARK side", after 30-50 (???) reports, you'll see that they themselves will start to condemn cheaters and start playing fairly.
They'll probably just create a new account...
Katherine approached me with a promise not to cheat and with a desire to redeem herself. She wrote that she is interested in the game. (c) Pit for LM

All the others who don't want to do this, go away... (for example, just walk by :D)
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8 messages :)

What is your purpose in asking?
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Katherine contacted me, promising not to cheat and expressing a desire to redeem herself. She wrote that she is interested in the game. (c) Pit for LM

All others who don't want to should go... (for example, walk by :D)

8 messages :)

What is your purpose in asking?
I'm not asking, I'm stating.
Moreover, Pit himself said that it's problematic to catch clones.
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I'm not asking, I'm stating.
Especially since Pete himself said that catching clones is problematic.
- Why is Joe called elusive? Is he that cool?
- No, he's just not needed by anyone (laughs).
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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We had a fun game yesterday with Katerina on Jebus Cross in WT (and that scourge got to her too :mad:, worse than cheating :( ). Still haven't figured out: whether to file a report or not, if so, where to send it, whether to post the saves, and so on
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Played a fun game of WT with Katerina yesterday on Jebus Cross (even she got infected with this scourge :mad:, worse than cheating :( ). I still don't understand: should I write a report or not, and if so, where to send it, whether to upload the saves, and so on?
And what happened there, if it's worse than cheating?
"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D
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hunter98
What was there, if anything worse than cheating?
In the VT chat: 50+ hardcore no-lifers have been grinding Jebus Cross over and over for more than a year. Why is it worse? Let me try to articulate: perfectly adequate players are susceptible to this infection; there is a small percentage who possess immunity, but the majority, once they get hooked, are lost to normal games forever; usually, players who engage in this nonsense are either those who have no prospects in normal play (lack intelligence, too lazy to learn, etc.) or newcomers who want to try everything themselves — it’s also common here for already established players, who have shown good results and have strong potential, to be irretrievably lost.

In my opinion, Jebus Cross no-lifing is far more dangerous than SMKA no-lifing: from the latter, we have managed to gradually wean off a considerable number of players, both on HeroesWorld and HeroesPort; from the former, as far as I can recall, no one has yet been cured (though the time since the infection was detected isn’t that long, I have strong doubts that a cure will ever be found).

PS. My apologies to the moderators for using the word "no-lifer" and its derivatives, but please note that this term has long and firmly established itself in the Heroes community lexicon, denoting a sufficiently broad concept (phenomenon), to explain the essence of which without using the said word would, I believe, require at least half a page of text.
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Given that the topic is already polluted, I don't think my contribution will be such a blatant addition to the mess... We would be very happy to see both Katerina and Pit (who doesn't know that those who are not banned on the forum, that is, those not sentenced to real prison terms, always have the right to vote: even those who are in pre-trial detention vote)... So, we will be glad to see everyone in Yekaterinburg from April 27 to May 3.
Captain
If it's DEFINITELY a girl, then forgive :)
But we will not forgive the boy-Captain for doing nothing in Kiev-2010 in any case. By the way, why hasn't the "CMO" (Black Mark of the Organizer) been awarded to Captain yet?
Katherine
There is indeed interest in the game.
P.S. I would gladly go to Yekaterinburg)
So play. But what does playing on a specific resource have to do with it? P.S. Welcome to Yekaterinburg.
=Stinger=
Cheaters are incurable. It's time to realize that.
Just like gambling addicts :smile03:
Pit for LM
The counting commission (in my person) reports that at the moment, the two votes cast for the first option will not be counted when the final results are summed up.
I see that the esteemed Pit has distinguished himself here too: it turns out that he has endowed himself with the exclusive right not to count valid ballots...
=Stinger=
The example is, of course, quite something... you can accidentally kill someone in self-defense, BUT, "accidentally" install ArtMoney and then, again, "accidentally" use it, "accidentally" engage in map hacking (of course, for self-defense). Everyone has become tolerant, but I personally don't have the time or desire to play Heroes suspecting my opponent of cheating. I didn't vote for a ban. Play with those who want to, it's everyone's business. I'm just saying what I think.
Tema, I really love you, but here you seem to be really confused... Tell me honestly - have you always had a clear conscience? Have you never done anything reprehensible? For example, have you never lied to anyone? Or does cheating in HEROES have a different nature for you than lying? Everyone lies. Everyone in this life, at least sometimes, does something wrong. And stop being disingenuous...
Dubrovin Pavel
It's pleasing that Katerina admitted to this little indulgence.
I don't remember anyone admitting to cheating before.
What a great thought! And the poems aren't bad either... Words not of a boy, but of a man! That's why I respect Dubrovin - for his honesty. Because Jesus plays - and doesn't hide it, like some... :smile14:
Pit for LM
I started counting the season when you weren't even on the forum.
Sorry for the association: "Yes, I'm a sailor!.. Yes, my whole ass is covered in shells!!!". Pit, enough with the self-affirmation. I understand (I myself am an avid forum user on a forum for casino workers) that here you are performing your social functions as a moderator and want to feel socially significant - but moderators, in my deep conviction, should first of all demand accountability from themselves. And you here - and suddenly you start attacking personally... That's not right... And in general - I repeat, Yekaterinburg will gladly welcome everyone to the tournament, including cheaters, because it will be extremely difficult to cheat in a live tournament. Come to our Games: Elephants and even otters,
And the scammer, and the Father,
Those who don't come - they're doomed!
Those who come - they are honored:
Both at home and at work.
Come to Yekaterinburg -
Conquer the CIS!!!
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I don’t understand, was Katrin cheating? Or did she just grind Jebus Cross and easily beat you? If it’s the latter, you should have praised her instead of saying: “and this pest got to her too, worse than cheating.” Envy is a bad feeling.

to MerlinTheMagician
1) There’s no need to bash the mods and orgs; I’m sure they’re more useful than you are.
2) Why the hell did you spew so much fluff? Are you trying to assert yourself? Or is this some hidden advertisement for Yekaterinburg?
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Kilgor
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1) There's no need to attack the moderators and organizers; I'm sure they provide more benefit than you do.
2) Why did you write so much nonsense? Are you trying to assert yourself? Or is this some kind of hidden advertisement for Yekaterinburg?
I agree.
Judging by the tone of the message, this is a person who is known in some narrow (or maybe not so narrow) circle. Moreover, it's not very polite. IMHO.
Pit for LM is doing a lot of global work. You could say, out of love for Heroes. And the criticism in the post is absolutely incorrect. His opinion should be worth 100 times more than the opinions of ordinary forum users and should be decisive in all disputes.
This kind of advertisement for Yekaterinburg doesn't attract anyone. Rather, the opposite.

And I'm already tired of this Katerina.
Play the game, for God's sake.
But why discuss and analyze every game with her on the forum?
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Gaudin
Pit for LM handles a lot of global tasks. You could say, it's out of love for the Heroes series.
Does anyone disagree? I just pointed out specific inconsistencies. I had no intention of insulting or offending Pit for LM in any way.

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