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Offline Mestear
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Reflections on the current situation. There isn't even a simple attempt to discuss the fact that the "maniac" is dangerous and shouldn't be used.
If I start complaining that the "maniac" is dangerous, they'll say: "LOL, so you admit that you're a Mafia member who wants to kill Lynx."
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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And we have a Lord General. Although, we should clarify with Lorlei which action has a higher priority.
On the other hand, even if he doesn't take any action, he still has some value. He's a target for the Mafia + 1 vote during the day. It's already been said that any action against the Imposters will lead to his hanging.

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What's there to discuss? Okay, let's keep the "maniac" alive so he can help, but the Incas have a Psion with conversion ability. They will move as they need to. A useless Spearman is pointless in that case.
Well, that was in the thread, lol. Are the gears not turning anymore? Or do I need to "put you in a noose" so you can start yelling something? Or are you Mafia?
If I start saying that the "maniac" is dangerous, they'll tell me: "LOL, SO YOU ADMIT YOU'RE MAFIA AND YOU'RE GOING TO EXECUTE LINX."
How do you know? You don't want to reveal yourself, okay. So at least show that you care about the choice of your town's team. You can see the vote spread now. Why not convince us that executing Spear is important? Where are those actions?
We have a Lord-General. Although, we should clarify with Lorelei which action has higher priority.
In order, the Night Defense priority, strangely enough, is with the second-to-move Psion.
On the other hand, even if he doesn't move, he still has some use. A target for the Mafia + 1 vote during the day. It has already been said that any action against the Imps will lead to his execution.
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So, what's the point of recruiting if there's only a 25% chance, and in case of failure (there are a ton of possibilities), the target of the recruitment is revealed? Why reveal someone who is definitely not a heretic at the beginning of the game?
What's so terrible about that? Well, the town will conclude that the unrecruited person is definitely not a heretic, so what? There are still the second mafia and the maniac left – meaning there's no certainty that this person is 100% innocent. But you can get into serious trouble with a murder.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Regarding recruitment, I actually wrote that I don't believe the heretics were just sitting around and recruiting. And in the last post, I got confused. Yes, even if Spear is a maniac, both mafia factions could have been killing. But in that case, there are even more possibilities.
I could, of course, cast my vote for Lynx to "get information," but we have too many offline players and those who won't switch their vote from Spear, so I think it's pointless. I agree with Arom, if Spear is really a maniac, the mafia will redirect him and own him. And if he's mafia (I don't see any point in the town revealing themselves with a maniac vote), then that's even better. Although, it looks like we won't be executing him with this setup.
I'm too f*cking old
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Killing them is one thing. I'm not entirely sure, but it seems like everyone has already realized that the defense triggers without nicknames. +50% to being unnoticeable. But recruiting is a much more random event: guessing the role, guessing the chance of success... Logically, it's a pointless action.
But even this description is missing, so it doesn't really matter.
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Surprisingly, the second player's Psion has the highest non-damage (ND) priority.
I'm messing up again, I admit it :o
I'm too f*cking old
To sell my soul
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I could, of course, cast my vote for Lynx
so I think it's pointless
Haha, everyone here is a great theorist, but they're not good at actually doing things.

Man might even hide to simply have +1 vote during the day in the Worlds.
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Wow, this is surprising. I wrote a post outlining how I could help the city. If you're the city and you disagree, quote it and refute it. If you can't refute it, but you still want to condemn it, what's the point? Honestly, are you interested in playing the game or not?
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Offline Nyashechka Kavai
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I agree with Arom, if Spear is truly a maniac, the Mafia will redirect him and control him.
A maniac plays to win and always wants to survive. There's no point in attacking the Town in the next few nights, at least 2-3. Otherwise, they'll catch him. So, either play by our rules, hide, or do nothing. In any case, the Mafia won't only fail to control him, but they'll also mess up a pretty good Night Defense.
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How do you know? You don't want to reveal yourself, okay. So, at least show that you care about the choice of your town's team. You can see the votes are scattered. Why not convince us that executing Spear is important? Where are those actions?
I do care, which is why I've already written quite a few pages arguing that I shouldn't be executed, and that this is a setup. Although it's hard to believe, it seems the Mafia didn't make any moves at all. What's wrong with that? Protecting me wouldn't involve eliminating anyone at night, which means I'd be executed during the day, and there wouldn't be a need to look for evidence against the Mafia. This is a perfectly reasonable plan.

Everyone here is saying Spear is a Man, okay, let's assume that (although how can anyone believe his reveal so much). The Man has this: Special Ability 3 – Hide (immune to external effects) – once every two nights.
Special Ability 4 – Infection (50% chance to infect the target with his flesh. After his death, the target becomes a Demon) – does not affect the Mafia (only when the last Mafia member remains), the Commander (Master), and the Inquisitor. Gains the target's characteristics. Also, the status of Human/Soldier changes depending on the target.

And isn't the Man overpowered? The Mafia can eliminate each other, and the Town (almost all townspeople) has a 50% chance of surviving an attack. If the Mafia does decide to eliminate someone from the Town, it's not a given that the kill will succeed. As Lor wrote: "An unsuccessful assassination attempt is not displayed" (Am I mistaken?). There are already two possibilities: the Mafia tried and failed, or the Mafia simply decided not to attempt a kill and instead used a block.
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Wow, this is surprising. I wrote a post outlining how I could help the city. If you're the city and you disagree, quote it and refute it. If you can't refute it, but you still want to condemn me, what's the point? Honestly, are you interested in playing the game or not?
I read your post, and I don't understand. If you're going to be redirected, you'll damage the city in most cases, regardless of whether you want to or not.
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Although, it seems we won't be executing him either, given the current situation.
But we can execute Lynx. Or would it be better to go into NNV?
"An unsuccessful assassination attempt is not reflected" (I'm not mistaken, am I?).
The mention of the committed murder must be mandatory; otherwise, it will be impossible to obtain even half of the possible information from the newspaper.
ND 3 – hide (unavailable for external influence) – once every two nights.
And so what? He won't hide from execution, and if a mafia hitman gets to him, that's even better.
ND 4 – infection (50% chance to infect the target with his flesh. After his death, the target becomes a demon).
And so what? What will motivate Spira more – the opportunity to play or simply to cause trouble before dying?
And so, is Mana not overpowered?
No, he is not overpowered. He has no 100% protection from attacks, no immunity to execution, and no immunity to blocks. The only thing he can do is hide, without performing any other actions.

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well, after all this, Spira definitely won't be targeted for elimination. After all, he can hide, skip his turn, and so on.

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