Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012

In total, among 32-36 players, these 9 spots can be contested, or however many there are. And this would be a selection among truly the strongest players, perhaps not from just ONE country, as we were before, but from the CIS, based on the territorial principle that unites us now.
This would be no less popular tournament than inter-portal ones, and it would have a unifying character for the Heroes community, rather than the clumping and highlighting of negativity that is currently observed.

It was possible to hold a general qualifying tournament, but Sticky decided to distribute it in this way - 3 from each resource, based on what is available.
And it would turn into a huge mess, much larger than 36 players, who would handle all of this? And I highly doubt that everything would go quietly and peacefully, and Samurai would just take it and stay silent:D

So, I think the problem lies in the very wording: "three people from each resource."

Pete, I've already asked you to address these questions to Sticky.
Knowing him, I think he will gladly, attentively, and gratefully listen to any advice, wishes, and instructions.
Especially from Samurai...
Thank you for not discussing off-topic issues here anymore.

The last draw for the main tournament:
Albert@s vs Tootsie Pie

Good luck, guys!

Problems? Where? What kind? I don't see any problems. If you see any, please send me a private message and I'll explain what's going on.

Unfortunately, I just found out about the qualifier.
As I understand it, registration is already closed, but I'm available as a substitute if possible.
224241493, time is negotiable.

Sorry, I don't like using moderator privileges and deleting things, but I need to somehow get through all this off-topic content.

Okay, Sky Pioneer will be the replacement. There's no other option now.

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First round draw: Good luck!

To Pit: 1. You cannot block passages with new reinforcements in such a way that the opponent could not bring their reinforcements through them. And if all moves are exhausted, then what? 2. New heroes are not considered reinforcements unless they bring 1 unit with them. Can you play with a hero if you need him, and either dismiss his reinforcements, leaving only one unit, or leave the reinforcements in the castle and go with him and one unit? 3. Forbidden heroes must be dismissed IMMEDIATELY upon reaching level 5, along with the army with which they reached level 5? Or can you transfer the army and dismiss him? 4. Forbidden heroes of level 5 and higher, freed from prisons, must be dismissed immediately? Can you take the army that came with them?

I also wanted to ask... if, for example, the first player wins against the second, and then when reviewing the replays after the game, the second player sees that the first player took resources near a guard tower and didn't destroy it... what will be the penalty? Will they be declared the loser?

I also wanted to ask... if, for example, the 1st player wins against the 2nd... and then, when reviewing the replays after the game, the 2nd player sees that the 1st player took resources near a guard tower and didn't destroy it... what will be the punishment? Will they be declared the loser?

Well, if you strictly follow the rules, then yes, that's the penalty...
But if we're talking about fairness, then depending on the violation, you can at least agree to a rematch... although a small amount of resources/a chest shouldn't be a major issue, IMHO...

1. You can't block passages with new reinforcements that your opponent could use to bring up their reinforcements.
But what if you've run out of moves?

Based on my experience, passages that can be blocked are rare, and they are rarely more than one tile long. Therefore, they are easy to spot, so you just need to avoid spending all your moves. And if you accidentally block a passage, you need to hope that your opponent will forgive you and you can somehow come to an agreement. In general, any violation of the rules can result in an immediate technical defeat, regardless of whether it was accidental or intentional.

2. New heroes are not considered reinforcements unless they bring 1 unit with them.
If a hero is needed, can you play with them, and then either dismiss their reinforcements, leaving only one unit, or
leave the reinforcements in the castle and go with the hero and one unit?

If you leave the hero's troops in the castle and don't use them to break through passages, banks, or defenses, then you can use the hero.

3. Forbidden heroes must be dismissed IMMEDIATELY upon reaching level 5, along with the army they reached level 5 with? Or can you transfer the army and then dismiss them?

The English version says "immediately," which means at the same time, i.e., together with the army.

4. Forbidden heroes of level 5 and higher, released from prisons, must be dismissed immediately? Can you take the army that came with them?

Based on what we have now, again, they must be dismissed immediately.

* you cannot use heroes without an army
what does this mean?

Heroes without an army are heroes who, at the end of their turn, have no units left at all.
In this case, on the next day, they will have maximum growth.
Some versions have ways to create such heroes.
And if you don't know how, it will be very difficult for you to violate this rule.

in Necropolis and Stronghold, the starting hero is random. You cannot build a Necromancy Amplifier, upgrade Vampires, Faeries, Phoenixes, and Air Elementals. If the computer builds any of these, you cannot upgrade your own creatures or buy upgraded creatures. You do not need to disband additional skeletons.
i.e. can you raise skeletons?

Yes, you can raise skeletons; necromancy is allowed.

regarding HeroesWorld Cup
"It is obviously forbidden to use bugged passages (through a mine or a shifted mountain)."
HW rules - by the way - do not prohibit this?
The prerequisites (No objects can be taken from under shifted defenses, including campfires,
resources, and chests) are the same. And the phrases "obviously bugged" and "it is unclear whether they should be guarded" - I suspect that many will interpret them in favor of their being broken). The other day, one (who is far from a novice) sincerely believed that the Amulet of Sacrifice was just lying next to a pack of Necrodrakes guarding a mill)

According to the HW rules, you can use any passages, even if there are no defenses or the road leads through a mine. In general, a bugged passage is one that shouldn't exist according to the map. Usually, there is a mine in such places (the most common case).

Regarding heroes of level 5 and higher, I have different information. :)
Stiki said that they can be dismissed until the end of the current turn, and not immediately. Otherwise, it would be complete nonsense.

I would send all the moderators to the (official) trash can. I have a specific question. Satyr, a player from the HW team in the last interportal competition, applied to participate in the Baev selection. I'm interested in knowing: is the ban on legionnaires participating in the selection the position of a specific host on a specific resource, or is it an action in accordance with Sticky's wishes as the tournament organizer?

P.S. 2Sticky: Should the winner of the previous tournament be selected like everyone else, or do they automatically qualify?

The top 3 from the previous tournament advance directly.

To StickyFingaz
What do you think about heroes of level 5+ and minor rule violations?

To PReDS
I considered the question about selection on another resource to be off-topic, especially since it wasn't from the person leading that selection.

Satir, a player for the ХВ team in the last interportal competition, applied to participate in the Baev selection; I am interested: is the ban on legionnaires participating in the selection the position of a specific leader on a specific resource, or is it an action taken in accordance with Sticky's wishes as the tournament organizer?

And if there were less off-topic content in this thread, this question wouldn't have arisen.
For my part, I can repeat once again that yes, on our resource, that is exactly how it is, and this is the position of the judging panel and the resource's team.
And again, I repeat:

When Sticky was planning this tournament in the summer, we thought about how to select a team from the resource and whether to allow participation in multiple selections.

And yet again, I repeat: regarding Sticky's wishes, the leader of a particular selection should contact the original source.

Once again, regarding team formation. There just wasn't time to explain in detail to the forum what and how.
The discussion started in a topic open to everyone, including Oelm and Samurai:
/topic/at/522418/
But for some reason, at that time, no one except the team players and Psyche_7 was interested.
Therefore, we continued in a closed topic.
Opinions, as always, were diametrically opposed.
The main arguments for "by voting":
- One tournament cannot give an objective picture; anyone who has played many tournaments knows perfectly well that almost any player of the highest level can be eliminated in the very first round;
- It is still quite far until March; it is unknown who will have the opportunity to play; we are adults, and real life is not always predictable;
- Holding a good tournament in such a short period of time is quite difficult; those who have run tournaments will understand me.
Arguments for "based on tournament results" (mostly I came up with them for myself to convince myself of the need to hold a tournament):
- Everyone wants it;
- There were several requests from people personally asking me to "give [them] a chance," "play against strong players," "get acquainted with the rules and template."

Forming a team based on the results of the Interportal Competition was an obvious decision. Three (out of 12) players from the team brought the team 12 out of 19 points. You'll agree that the result speaks for itself.
But Andrey is taking a break for 2012 and won't be playing. Nevertheless, I listed him as the first reserve player, just in case something changes.

Next, while I was working on translating the rules, unexpectedly for me, voting began. They voted for 6 players: 3 starters + 3 reserves. A vote for the starting lineup gave 2 points, and for the reserves - 1 point.
A total of 19 players expressed their opinion effectively. The details of how everyone voted are available in the closed topic. I didn't assign any extra points or favor anyone.

nick - number of votes for starter - for reserve - rating points
Pit for LM - 18 - 0 - 36
Javdet - 11 - 6 - 28
Gomunguls - 7 - 7 - 21
Mizrael - 7 - 5 - 19
Satir - 3 - 6 - 12
Dirty Player - 3 - 6 - 12
GoD - 2 - 8 - 12
Sevensan - 3 - 4 - 10
Ayman - 0 - 1 - 1
Oelm - 0 - 1 - 1

I won't write about numOne because the voting was incorrect; we knew that he had declined a place on the team.

Javdet already wrote that his result was unexpected for him. Although there is nothing strange about it, he consistently shows high results in tournaments on three Russian-speaking resources, plays a lot and successfully. By high results, I mean his consistent performance in reaching the semi-finals and finals of various tournaments, as well as winning the League twice on one portal, and taking second place in Favorites....
When I told him the results, yes, he wasn't against playing in the selection, but again, he also has real life commitments, and it is quite likely that he will not have the technical ability to play from March. The selection loses its meaning for him, and if he also eliminates an obvious contender for the trip, then that would be completely wrong.

Regarding newbie Pit. I was also surprised that it was so unanimous; thank you all for your trust.
Probably, the last tournament had an influence, where he managed to defeat numOne, Sticky, GoD, Vano (who eliminated Scorpion and Satir), Psyche_7 with a score of 2-0, ATG 2-1, and during the matches, Faer, Leader1, R55Max, RomarioGrom were eliminated...
And + the Interportal Competition, apparently.
I will try to live up to expectations, although, of course, it will be difficult; the lineup is strong, and we must remember that in full double elimination mode, after just two rounds, a quarter of the participants are permanently eliminated.

And besides, I've been doing this since December 17th. Those who have run tournaments know what it's like and how much time it takes. Already now, in these three weeks, I've spent so much time that it would be enough to play 5-6 games, so you can say that I've already played my part in this tournament, while the others haven't even started:
- I conducted the discussion/voting,
- I probably spent as much time on ICQ as I did during the interportal competition draw,
- I translated the rules, not using Google Translate, but in Russian, and in a sequence familiar to us,
- I created the template and wrote the description; you don't have a Chinese version with a Chinese description, but one in our terms,
- I communicated with players unknown to me,
- I explained everything to everyone,
- I drew up the bracket,
- We made the draw,
- I will try to watch the broadcasts
- And if possible, I will help players learn the rules. I am well acquainted with them, and I participated in writing them for both the last World Championship and this one, and I played according to them extensively.
And all of this is further complicated by the fact that in that warm sunny country where I currently live and work, there are no extra days off, and Christmas (December 25th) and New Year fell on Sundays. And at work here, it is customary to work, but somehow browsing the internet, drawing lots, or chatting is not allowed... Plus, there is a time difference... Plus problems with the connection... What will happen in March - I don't know...