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Do you agree with my proposal?
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Yes, I agree
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I absolutely disagree
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Dirty_Player
I think the Creator doesn't want just anyone to be the coordinator, and apparently he doesn't have a trusted person available.
The three of us need such a person. Someone to periodically ban someone for a day or two. :D

Well, we need to suggest someone who has been here for a long time and who visits HeroesWorld every day or every other day if possible. The main thing is that HeroesWorld is important to that person. We need to create a thread in the "Flood City" about this.
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We need to create a thread in the "off-topic" section about this.
Just not there....
Let me clarify: I don't mean that newcomers shouldn't ask about the rules, but perhaps we should be a little more lenient...
There haven't been any moderator bots here, as far as I know.


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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I can become a coordinator. Is that needed?

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I can become a coordinator. Should I?

Personally, I'm in favor of it. I think we should add only one coordinator for now, and a second one if needed.
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I could become a coordinator. Is that needed?
Absolutely not.


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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I already understood from the negative feedback on the forum, lol. But you can relax, because I was just kidding. I don't need any extra worries.

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I could also try to become a coordinator. I'm on the forum every day. But we need two coordinators. One would be responsible for Heroes 1-3, and the other for 4-6. I think Zubr or Arandor could handle it.
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My suggestion is to configure the system as follows: minor violations will result in points expiring after a certain period (with the more serious the violation, the longer the period), while major violations will never expire.
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In principle, each (offense) should have its own punishment. And they should be banned (automatically). 7 days means 7 days. 1 year means 1 year. A player was banned for harsh language directed at another player, plus for something else; let them wait. But if a player (waited) for 1 year... and this ban was lifted automatically after 1 year... what's the point of introducing anything new? If they haven't learned their lesson and repeat the offense, ban them again, for an indefinite period. That is, a program should be in place. A ban can be issued by a sumo, an admin, or a moderator – it doesn't matter. And not (waste time) dealing with each serious offender individually. Let it be 1, 2, or 10. +++ Voting... there are 3 points missing (please report in the thread). I expressed my thoughts... we'll consider them. +++ Why am I being so harsh? Because I did it once and forgot about it. And all the effort was put into... yes, into those same 6 heroes. Into communication, not into calculating and logging into the admin panel for routine, quickly solvable issues. I think everyone understands.
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In principle, this is possible, but it is almost equivalent to the idea of gradually deducting points, as larger violations result in a greater deduction. However, a system with point deductions is easier to implement: you won't have to come up with a time limit for each violation separately.
 

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What would prevent some moderators from awarding points just as arbitrarily?
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What would prevent some moderators from awarding points arbitrarily?
I understood that the discussion was about something else. As for awarding points arbitrarily, there is an effective way:
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When awarding points for violations in accordance with the current regulations of the HeroesWorld violation system, the moderator must make decisions impartially. If the opposite is found in the actions of the moderator, the question of removing him from office or the question of limiting his powers related to awarding points for violations may be raised.
 

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Ment, a special plugin for the forum will have to be written for the point deduction system. Whereas the system with an expiration date for violations is a native feature, it seems.
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Ment, a special plugin for the forum will have to be written for a point deduction system. Whereas a system with an expiration date for violations is a native feature, it seems.
I'm not entirely sure about this. But it seemed to me that deducting points would be more straightforward, as it is already partially implemented: users already have five points deducted a week after being banned. Otherwise, it would be five points deducted every month, regardless of whether they are banned or not, for example.
 

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Hmm. After receiving a PM from Siverfale, I read the thread and thought...
I agree that the punishment system needs to be improved. But the question is, how?
The 2 proposed options in the poll are not enough. It would be better if everyone who wants to could write their own suggestions – briefly, but to the point.
My personal thoughts:
1. The ban system should be tiered depending on the severity of the rule violation, and ideally, it should reflect the difference between violations due to ignorance and, say, intentional insults.
2. Spam bots should be banned permanently; I think it is possible to clearly distinguish them from real people.
3. Moderators should not engage in arbitrary actions: any punishment must always be clearly justified: such and such a rule was violated and in such and such a way. Arbitrary actions by the moderators themselves should be punished and even lead to their removal.
4. To assess the legal status of users, a formula could be calculated, something like "Sum of violation points / Duration of the past period in days".
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