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#452 9/27/2011 11:56 AM UTC

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Hostor, explain to the idiot how Schopenhauer is related to "two bear or not two bear."

Check the wiki page for Hamlet's monologue. And you know, 3 beers are better than 2.

If she's a maniac, it's better to look for clues on the Mafia, I think. The Mafia is the primary target.

- 1 Mafia - there will be a kill. - Maniac - there will be no kills. Forget about the probability of killing Mafia roles - they are less significant than the numbers show.
It's better to find the Mafia within the Sheriff's range. I'm taking care of finding them.

It's not entirely clear why we need another clue on Tengro's killer. Or does Thor want us to solve for both killers?

There's only one killer. The clue is either a standard one for the first killer, or a planted one from one of the two. Or Thor is making a mistake.

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#453 9/27/2011 11:57 AM UTC

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Toxa was visited by a student and a pianist, what's so hard to understand? And, in my opinion, the block didn't work...

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#454 9/27/2011 11:57 AM UTC

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L.Depravado

Well, I mean, I'm a girl, but okay, XD.

Oh, sorry, I didn't know.

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#455 9/27/2011 12:05 PM UTC

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Check the wiki page for Hamlet's monologue.

OK.

The German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer commented on this monologue as follows: "Our state is so miserable that it should undoubtedly be preferred to complete non-existence. If suicide really promised us this and we were faced with the alternative of 'to be or not to be' in the full sense of the word, then it should undoubtedly be preferred as the most desirable conclusion" (73, p. 424). "But people," Schopenhauer writes, "usually do not associate death with absolute annihilation; there has not yet been a single person who would not want to live until tomorrow" (426)[3].

I still don't see the connection. If I want, information about my interpretation can appear in the wiki immediately after Schopenhauer's, but this doesn't create a connection between me and Shakespeare.

- 1 mafia - there will be a murder. - maniac - there will be no murders. Forget about the probabilities of them murdering mafia roles - they are less significant than the numbers show.

Well, there's something to that...

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#456 9/27/2011 12:19 PM UTC

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For now, I only like my clue, so either crucify or six Menta.

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#457 9/27/2011 12:21 PM UTC

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I still don't see the connection.

clue

"As my friend says: 'To be or not to be'"

Many people have probably expressed their opinions about Hamlet's monologue. But Schopenhauer's opinion is highlighted and immortalized in the wiki! There, "Schopenhauer's quote" is linked to "Schopenhauer's quote" in Lynx. It's not like we should link to Schopenhauer's page itself; that would be too easy. And as a bonus: "As my friend says." The clue itself is presented as a quote.

All I have to do is want it, and information about my interpretation will appear in the wiki right after Schopenhauer's.

Go ahead! I want to see it!

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#458 9/27/2011 12:39 PM UTC

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Hostor, Neyra, I ask you once again to explain your vision, who and, more importantly, who was killed today. Because I see 6 murders: sheriff, Vinta, gangsters, OSR, devourer, illusionist. It is unlikely that bruises indicate a role, IMHO. Added 5 minutes later For now, I will outline my IMHO: Arandor - knight of the holy order - killed either by gangsters (why is everyone so sure it was a Terminator?), or by a maniac, or by Vinta. Kitz - illusionist - killed by the sheriff (read again what I found about arsenic - it is used to make shot; we have a shotgun with the sheriff). Tengro - assassin - killed first by the illusionist (that's why there are no clues (or maybe there are, but they are planted)), and then either a maniac or a gangster was going to kill him. Rimpel - Vinta - killed by an assassin and either a gangster or a maniac.

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#459 9/27/2011 12:40 PM UTC

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Please explain your vision, who and, more importantly, who was killed today.

Everything is written here.

I doubt bruises indicate a role; IMHO.

Okay, bruises – the murder of OSR, the patent – an indication of Vinta, where is the hint about the role? Did Vinta fake her death? And she survived the attack in that condition. AWESOME!
Everyone is saying, "Vinta, lol, don't do a fake murder, what are you doing, it's stupid!", but Vinta doesn't even know that it's not cool, right?

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#460 9/27/2011 12:41 PM UTC

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Hostor, why do you consider Arandor a peaceful place? If he is truly not a member of the Mafia, then where did the cross come from (he cannot be a preacher, because he is a mechanoid, remember that).

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#461 9/27/2011 12:44 PM UTC

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crucify or six Cops

The correct way to write it is "six cops";)

Want it! I want to see it!

Well, this was written in the heat of the discussion... Although, if you slightly distort it, saying that it's the opinion of, for example, Pushkin...

Many people have probably expressed their opinions about Hamlet's monologue. But Schopenhauer's opinion is highlighted and immortalized in the wiki! There, "Schopenhauer's quote" is also "Schopenhauer's quote" for Lynx. Well, we can't just give a link to Schopenhauer's page, that would be too easy. And as a bonus: "As my friend says." The clue itself is presented as a quote.

Yes, I forgot about the friend. Although Shakespeare and Schopenhauer weren't friends because of the difference in time, but, as I understand it, the latter highly respected the former. OK, let's consider it solved.
And since they want to execute me based on a really beautiful clue, and I still doubt that Kitz was killed by a Mage (due to the lack of any corresponding hint about the role), then... I think it's time to execute Lynx. Of course, all this is if she isn't the Sheriff. But shouldn't the Sheriff kill with poison?

If he really isn't the Mafia, then where did the cross come from (he can't be a preacher, because he's a Mechanoid, remember that).

A hint about the killer's role?

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#462 9/27/2011 12:49 PM UTC

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The Knights killed Rimpel. Hostor, damn... -___- Vinta is handling the patents for the fake death, which indicates the role of the murdered person. There is no evidence because an assassin cut/bruised him, and then someone from the shooters shot the dead Rimpel. But it was already too late, and evidence is not given for unsuccessful murders. And in general, Host, you're a genius. If I'm right about the arsenic, then you exposed our sheriff's mafia connection. I am strongly against executing Lynx.

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#463 9/27/2011 12:52 PM UTC

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The Knights killed Rimpel.

How does this follow? If we don't consider the method of elimination right now.

Hostor, damn it... -___-
Vinta is responsible for patents on fake deaths, which indicates the role of the murdered.
There is no evidence because an assassin cut/bruised him, and then someone from the shooters shot the dead Rimpel.
But it was already too late, and evidence is not given for unsuccessful murders.

My version: the scratches are a hint at the role of the murdered, and Vinta was the one who killed him. No evidence was given because it was a fake murder, and Vinta didn't want to provide any. That's when, in my opinion, everything fits together.

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#464 9/27/2011 12:55 PM UTC

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If I'm right about the arsenic, then you've framed our sheriff.
I'm strongly against executing Lynx.

A tie? Hmm, executing the sheriff isn't the best outcome.

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#465 9/27/2011 12:56 PM UTC

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It all depends on what Thorium meant by "Illusionist's non-destructive ability - simultaneously with the 'teacher's' turn."

I am basing my interpretation solely on this phrase.
If it is indeed simultaneous, then, in theory, there should be two kills in the style of an assassin.
Besides, the illusionist does not steal the non-destructive ability, but learns it.

In general, this needs to be clarified with Thorium, to see what he meant.

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#466 9/27/2011 12:57 PM UTC

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I think you’re right, ToX. The Assassin and the Illusionist should have attacked at the same time.

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