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#43160 9/12/2011 2:21 PM UTC

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THE MAIN ELEMENT IS MOVEMENT

Is this written on the game box? And in Heroes, is the "main element" hit-and-run tactics from invisibility? And in strategy games, is it sneaking up from a distance to attack with a squad?

by default, a losing tactic, I don't think that IT'S WRONG, I'm just annoyed by this type of gameplay (even if it's flawed)

Pure subjectivism. The tactic isn't losing; it's perfectly viable. With your biased dislike, you're only consciously impoverishing the game by believing that certain playstyles are ineffective and "shouldn't exist for normal players."

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Registered: 5/24/2009

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#43161 9/12/2011 2:22 PM UTC

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"LOL, I'll sit down and play for a while. I've done this many times before, and everything will be fine. Oh, how come they launched a rocket at me? Cheaters, you suck!!!"

A standard tactic, and not necessarily for noobs.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43162 9/12/2011 2:36 PM UTC

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Is this what's written on the game box? And in Heroes, is the "main element" hit-and-run tactics from invisibility? And in strategy games, is it considered a sneaky tactic to attack from a distance?

Did you understand something?
This is the game's logic, just like in Heroes, quickly clearing neutral creatures without losses is a sign of skill.
"Hit-and-run from invisibility" is always a risk, and a much greater one than attacking with a large group and winning.
Artillery can be destroyed; if you can't do it, you've lost the game.

It's all subjective. This is a viable tactic, perfectly acceptable. With your biased dislike, you're only consciously impoverishing the game by believing that some playstyles are ineffective and "shouldn't exist for decent players."

This is instead of a facepalm.

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#43163 9/12/2011 2:39 PM UTC

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Maybe I really am Vasya.

Pfft, we've seen worse.

Run, I'll take a look.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43164 9/12/2011 3:01 PM UTC

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"hit-and-run from invisibility" is always a risk

This is only a risk against those who are known to have Darkness or Shackles.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43165 9/12/2011 3:06 PM UTC

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What does darkness have to do with it?

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#43166 9/12/2011 3:21 PM UTC

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That's the logic of the game, just like in Heroes, quickly clearing neutrals without losses is a sign of skill.

However, quickly clearing neutrals gives you a good head start towards victory. Especially if you play for three hours every week.
Camping is always a risk, and a much bigger one than running around the map from one room to another, hoping to pick off some weakling from behind.
An external dwelling can be bypassed or blown up with explosives; if you can't do that, then all you can do is shout "rats noobs lolkas go 1 on 1 with knives".
And in Heroes 3, they even ban noob tactics outright — how dare you, oh my. It's noobish and the risk is much greater because you could lose your hero! And you can't even escape with invisibility!

Campers are tearing you a new one, Vis. You scream that only rats and noobs play that way, and that the tactic is actually bad because "it's not intended by the game" and you beat all campers. Lol, okay. I guess because it's so noobish and easily countered, some servers even install a mod in CS that prevents you from staying in one spot for too long. Or it's that handful of your 3-20 players shouting "noob loser I banged your mom host ban the camper rat bitch". And that's exactly why you've written on HeroesWorld so many times with a sense of superiority that "campers are scum" and "tryhards rush you", spewing all the typical schoolyard clichés. Meanwhile, you keep using "noob rat tactics" in other games, considering it normal.
Double hypocritical standards are so double.

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#43167 9/12/2011 3:29 PM UTC

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What does darkness have to do with it?

It would take too long to explain to someone who plays Heroes at an amateur level.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43168 9/12/2011 3:37 PM UTC

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Do you even read my posts? If so, why are you spewing another load of verbal garbage here?
Camping is a risk, yes, in Half-Life. And camping is also a noob tactic there, as I already wrote. And I even explained why, but it seems you don't understand.

You can bypass a hiding spot or throw an explosive at it; if you can't do that, then all you can do is scream "rats, noobs, lol, let's go 1v1 with knives."

In Half-Life, as I already said, "rat" is just a noob element that causes some irritation, distracting from the action; you could say. But all the hiding spots of noob players are well known, and after the first or second rocket, a skilled player will simply reflexively shoot rockets at the hiding spot; I'm not even mentioning jumping.

I don't understand what the point is in having a discussion with you if it 50% of the time turns into such a depressing... I don't even know what to call it, TROLLING.

Campers are kicking your ass, Vis.

You're yelling

on some servers, even in CS, they install a mod

How can you have a normal conversation with you? There's no point, so: Yes, I'm a two-faced schoolkid who constantly yells that everyone is bad except me, and everyone is a peasant while I'm good; I play other games using rat-noob tactics and constantly yell that campers are noobs, but I always lose to them.

It's pointless to explain something to a person who plays Heroes at an amateur level.

Play in tournaments if you're so good. And since you can't clearly convey your thoughts, don't write anything.

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Registered: 10/30/2009

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#43169 9/12/2011 3:52 PM UTC

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Lord, don't try to act tough, just explain it properly.

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#43170 9/12/2011 4:05 PM UTC

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I won't explain anything. I'm too lazy. Let them figure it out themselves. Soon, the sixth installment will be released, and I think that's when new opportunities will emerge to show who's skilled and who's a noob.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43171 9/12/2011 4:16 PM UTC

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The sixth installment is coming out soon, and I think it will open up new opportunities to show who's good and who's a noob.

Just like an unlucky player in an MMORPG who's waiting for a new server.

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#43172 9/12/2011 4:27 PM UTC

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For me, the game is not the meaning of life, but a form of entertainment. I don't obsess over every victory and I don't create stereotypes for myself, like some people who get upset because some "noob" is camping and shooting them from around a corner.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

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#43173 9/12/2011 4:37 PM UTC

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It's a long story to explain to someone who plays Heroes at an amateur level.

For me, the game is not the meaning of life, but just entertainment.

You're being overly critical of pretty much everything else on the internet.
Same here: another one who can't read or understand what he's reading. Good luck, Orson's creation.

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#43174 9/12/2011 4:38 PM UTC

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Well, of course, there's nothing else to say – just accuse me of trolling.

Probably, camping isn't a problem for you. You've probably mentioned it half a dozen times in your WoW posts, just because it "slightly annoys you, nothing more," because you easily deal with them, constantly picking RPGs and sending a rocket into every hiding spot. Yes, hit-and-run and camping in HL are two risky things, but in HL, it's a noob tactic, while in Heroes, it's risky and cool, it gets your blood pumping and shows real skill, almost like taking out a priest who's AFK and twenty levels below you from invisibility. And in Heroes 3, hit-and-run is forbidden by the rules because the tactic is too noobish; cool players can't embarrass themselves with it.

And of course, all of this is just blatant trolling, because despite the relevance of my posts, it's easier to say that it's just verbal diarrhea that has nothing to do with what's written, because a hypocritical conscience won't allow you to admit that "something you can't possibly be beaten at" is noobish and lame in one game, but in another, it's "pwn noobs, learn to play, unranked noob."

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