Posts from Мафия 32. Asylum

The Psychos will kill all the doctor-assassins. Then they will eliminate the least useful unit from the city, the one they don't mind losing. Then – the least useful unit from the remaining ones... Then... "Oops! Is the city already empty???"

I already wrote what it's called above:)
It's good that Gill doesn't even deny that he's crazy.

Why waste time trying to prove to Mafia #1 that I'm not Mafia #2? I'm busy setting up the post-war political situation; our friends will deal with you, lol. And did you say something about my being Mafia? Sorry, I didn't notice.

Reinhard, with the cyclical nature of the game and the same moves being repeated, it's customary to declare a draw. Three times repetition => stalemate. And you yourself mentioned the "but" with the involvement of the Guard. There will be many options; do you really think that a method to loop the game won't be found if desired? :D

And you yourself stipulated a "but" regarding the Guardian's involvement.

"But" only because I don't know how Slonysh will perceive this situation. Without a guardian, it's an automatic win in any case. I don't know what will happen if he's alive.

Reinhard, with the cyclical nature of the game and the same moves, it's customary to declare a draw. Three repetitions => stalemate.

Are we going to sit around doing nothing for more than three days?

Do you really think that a method to loop the game won't be found if desired?

Looping the game = the Mafia skips turns.
1. This is a weak argument. The Mafia will simply need to want to win.
2. I don't like this approach, as I wrote in my previous post.

Let's get this over with! According to the note from the lunatics, Thorium is an evil doctor, => Execute Th232.

Nebko is not right, lol.

Well, and lol. If a town goes on all sorts of adventures, it will definitely fail. So, everyone should use their own head.

"But" only because I don't know how Slonysh will perceive this situation. Without a bodyguard, it's an automatic win in any case. I don't know what will happen if he's alive.

Are we going to sit around doing nothing for more than three days?

The "looping" method = the mafia skips turns.
1. This is a very weak argument. The mafia will simply need to want to win.
2. I don't like this approach, as I wrote in my previous post.

Isn't it obvious? Bodyguard = blocker/defender. Goodness, there are so many options! For example, leave two blockers and two psychomafia killers alive, and then these killers will be blocked every night. And this is just the first ill-conceived idea that came to mind (i.e., it might be a mistake, but with proper consideration, which is still too early for, everything will be arranged anyway). Here's a rough draft of a stalemate, if it's so important to discuss everything so early.
It's also possible to do nothing, but, as can be seen from the above, there are more interesting options that are not officially "doing nothing."
Again, skipping turns is not necessary.
The mafia won't do that. There's nothing to argue about.

So, everyone here needs to use their own head.

If your head is empty, it won't help...

Actually, I have a suspicion that Gill and Hoster are playing on the same team, which means they are both insane. But still, if the guard wasn't Gill, he would have written that he wasn't Gill, instead of just stating who he would be protecting. Okay, execute Torian. I'm probably a noob.

By the way, we also have a maniacal police officer hiding somewhere in the bushes.

Hmm. What an interesting day I missed yesterday because of work. Well, I read everything during the game night, and now I have my opinion on what happened in these two days. In general, I agree with Ara and Pitch Black's roles as the main doctors, but it gets interesting from there. I believe that Gill is a guard. There was no murder; most likely, someone came to kill him, but a priest saved him, as we see in the newspaper. The note also supports this. If Gill is a guard, then the aggressive Thory is a Mafia member, but which of the two factions? And, by the way, his aggression clearly shows that he is not a serial killer and has nothing to do with the oak leaves.
By the way, regarding the oak leaves and rain patterns. Wissy has the clan "Witches" in her signature, and there are other members of the clan in the game, but only he has a userbar. So, the clan's emblem is a cat against the background of a window filled with rain, a clue from the first night related to mana. On his black and white avatar, there is someone in a uniform that strongly resembles the uniform of Germans from World War II, and they used oak leaves in many places in that uniform.
I also want to return to the first night; the role of Mold is interesting. Karen's notes arrive regularly; should we believe them or not? I had a thought that Mold is Holstein, but he also writes constantly. In general, it's quite confusing. And who the evil scoundrels performed a lobotomy on is also a good question, and did they perform a lobotomy on anyone? Lobotomy doesn't work as recruitment for one of the pair; the question is already for Slonysh. And if the surgeon directed the lobotomy, let's say, at Michael Hope, will the operation take place, will Michael find out about the lobotomy, and what will happen in general?

SEER

- Oh, so much has been written, it takes a long time to read, and I don't feel like figuring it out; I guess we shouldn't hang Gila.
- Yeah, that's right; Hostor is clearly a member of the Mafia.
- And Neyra, too.
- Gil, what should we do?
- Execute Tor, he's definitely a member of the Mafia.
- Execute Tor!
- Gil, what should we do next?
- Execute Lizard, he's definitely a member of the Mafia.
- Execute Lizard!
- Gil, what should we do next?
- Execute Reinhardt, he's definitely a member of the Mafia.
- Execute Reinhardt!
GM: The Mafia wins!
- Gil, how did that happen?
- It's all good, guys; that's how it's supposed to be.

By the way, we also have a maniac-policeman hiding somewhere in the bushes.

And we'll "cure" him. ;) Hermi, if I agree to a draw, it doesn't mean I'm crazy. Both sides (or at least partially) must initially want the draw for it to be real.

Arandor is a good Mafia player.

There are no such things as good Arandors in Mafia.

Lobotomy doesn't work as a recruitment method for one of the pair; the question is for Slonysh. But if a surgeon directs a lobotomy, let's say, at Michael Hope, will the operation take place? Will Michael find out about the lobotomy, and what will happen in general?

This won't be displayed in any way.
Neither as a clash with the defense, nor as an operation that took place, nor as a block – just silence.

Isn't it obvious? A guard is a blocker and a protector. Goodness, there are so many options! For example, leave two blockers and two mafia killers alive, and then these killers will block each other every night.

You're talking as if it's so simple – just do it and that's it. Are the roles of all players known, like figures on a chessboard? No. Are you sure that the blockers will survive until the evil doctors are eliminated? No. All of this is too vague and unreliable.

The mafia wouldn't do that. There's nothing to argue about.

How "wouldn't"? Wouldn't "break the agreement"?
Comparing this to that statement, the example from Haven is quite relevant: "I'm a Day Guardian, you already know my role, I only have 25%, I won't be able to kill anyone, and until then I'll help the town by voting," - the mafia won, - "oh, I accidentally killed X)".