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The sea race – there are so many interesting units that could be created without much effort. You don't even need to come up with anything new; just read some myths.
Some kind of war-turtle-mutant-ninja would look much better than one of the female units.
By the way, about ninjas! After all, there's Japan. Why not? Donatello – where are you!
Indeed. Instead of one of the female units, it would be better to add another Naga, and instead of the second one, some kind of Ogre.
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I agree completely.
No one has ruled out the possibility of a crab-like creature either. I'm serious!
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The spammers on the Heroes of Might and Magic forums are clearly just a bunch of clueless kids who can’t even come up with original ideas.
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Ninjas – even though they are professionals, they are still ruthless thugs who lack honor. So, they don't fit into the overall samurai concept of the race. I'm surprised that there aren't geisha healers, and instead, there's a spirit. And women should be mages; female warriors in chainmail bikinis are already getting old. Besides, all three fit into the Japanese concept of the race. In this regard, the shark guardian is the most out of place. And the women look a bit alike, but let them look alike. They differ significantly in details, but in Heroes, you need to be able to distinguish the "top-tier" units at a glance, so there might be some confusion, but we'll get used to it.

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Indeed. Instead of one of the priestesses, it would have been better to add another Naga, and instead of the second, some Oni.
You are contradicting yourself. Where else to add Nagas? There are already two, that's enough. And the priestesses are very much in their place.
By the way, about ninjas! After all, it's Japan. Why not? Donatello – hello!
There you go. They don't fit. We've already explained why.
In the end, we have three female units, which are mages for the same faction!
An epic fail.
Not a fail at all. And certainly not an epic one.
Three beautiful warriors, quite appropriate for the theme.
warrior-turtle-mutant-ninjas
What nonsense is this? Okay, if they were just turtles, like in "The Frozen Throne," but mutants... That's not aesthetically pleasing and has nothing to do with Eastern mythology.

Enough already with criticizing this faction. If it's so much easier for you to come up with your own ideas, then find people who will see you as a talented developer, trust you with a project, invest money in the implementation of your strange ideas, and ultimately give the green light to everything you come up with. This is incredibly difficult, and it's good that the Sanctuary faction was skipped.
In detail, they differ greatly, but in the game, you need to be able to distinguish the "top-tier" units at a glance, so there may be some confusion, but we'll get used to it.
They will be easy to distinguish. In the game, the Spring Spirit model is supplemented with a splash effect; only a blind person could confuse them. And in general, they are different.
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Regarding ninjas – that’s a good idea. Thanks for bringing it up. Regarding the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – I was just kidding. Although, if there are shark wars, they could, in principle, create human-turtles and human-crabs, etc., using the same concept. For example, they could create a wise turtle wearing a large, straw Japanese hat. A hunched old man with a gray beard, green skin, and a shell on his back. After all, turtles live a very long time. There you have it – a mage! An analogue would be Taoist monks. Okay – it’s too late to do anything about it now, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. I won’t post anything more on this topic.
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That's actually a great idea! I don't know about Japanese mythology, but in Chinese mythology, turtles held a prominent place.
 

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In some regions of Japan, especially along the coast, local residents have worshipped turtles since ancient times. Fishermen considered the turtle (kame) to be a sea god (kami), and their luck depended on it. Large turtles were often caught in fishing nets off the coast of Japan. Fishermen carefully removed them from the nets, offered them sake, and released them back into the sea.

In ancient Japan, there was also a kind of cult of snakes and mollusks. Nowadays, Japanese people eat them without hesitation, but some species of snakes and mollusks are still considered sacred. These are tanisi, which live in rivers and ponds. Some scholars believe that the reverence for tanisi came to Japan from China. According to legend, in the Aizu region, there once stood the Wakamiya Hachiman Temple, at the foot of which were two ponds. If anyone caught a tanisi in these ponds, they would hear a voice in their sleep at night, demanding its return. Sometimes, the sick would deliberately catch a tanisi in order to hear the voice of the pond kami at night and ask for healing in exchange for releasing the tanisi. Old Japanese medical books stated that tanisi was a good remedy for eye diseases; however, there are also legends that only those who do not eat tanisi are cured of eye diseases.

There are places in Japan where people still believe in the sacred fish okodze. This little creature played a very important role in ancient legends. It was considered a representative of the mountain kami. Hunters would wrap okodze in white paper and say something like a spell: "Okodze, if you bring me luck, I will unwrap you and let you see the sunlight." Many fishermen hung dried okodze at the doors of their huts, hoping that they would be lucky and their homes would be protected from evil spirits. When fishermen got into trouble, they promised the sea kami to offer okodze as a gift if it would have mercy and save them.

There were also beliefs that the dragonfly tombo would bring luck and happiness to the Japanese, and it was associated with courage and even with the national spirit. The dragonfly was perceived as a warlike insect, so it was customary to wear items with a dragonfly image. This custom has survived to this day; the image of a dragonfly can be seen on things and clothes of boys. This attitude towards the dragonfly comes from the depths of Japanese history, when Japan was called the "land of the dragonfly." And now, one can still find the word "dragonfly" in literature as a synonym for Japan.

In ancient times, the shark (same) in Japan was considered a creature endowed with divine power, i.e., a kami. Various legends were told about the shark. One of them tells that once a shark bit off a woman's leg. The woman's father prayed to the sea spirits to avenge his daughter. After some time, he saw a large school of sharks chasing one predator in the sea. The fisherman caught it, killed it, and found his daughter's leg in its stomach.

Fishermen believed that a shark could help avoid misfortune at sea and even carry a drowning person to shore on its back. It was believed that shoals of fish followed the sacred shark. If a fisherman was lucky enough to meet it, he would return with a rich catch.

The Japanese also worshipped the crab.
An amulet made from its dried shell was believed to protect against evil spirits and diseases. It was said that once, crabs appeared in a coastal area where they had never been seen before. Fishermen caught them, dried them, and hung them on trees; since then, evil spirits have avoided these places. Even now, there is a legend that the warriors of the Taira clan, who were defeated in the internecine war with the Minato clan, plunged into the sea and turned into crabs there. Therefore, in some rural areas, it is still believed that the crab's belly resembles a human face.
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I won't be posting anything more on this topic.

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I see the topic is progressing. :D

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In what way? In appearance? In color scheme? In what?
Not only are they different in appearance, but their concept and functions on the battlefield are also different. In short, it's pointless to explain. The best way is to go here and read everything for yourself. And regarding the visual similarity, I repeat: the units are different! Just because the models are made in the same color scheme doesn't mean that the creatures are identical. Don't talk nonsense, wait for the game to be released, and then you can really talk about something.
And, yes...

Spring Spirit / Snow Maiden
Sentinel / Crossbowman

In the first pair, and in the second, the units are completely different. Well, if they look alike in the first pair, as you claim, then there is no less similarity in the second.
The first pair – two identical spirits.
The second pair – differences in armor and weapons
Слова не копья и не стрелы они могут ранить лишь глупцов.
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I would also add all the dragons that are not faction-specific, but are neutral, for example, crystalline, rusty, and azure dragons.
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I would also add all dragons that are not faction-specific, but are neutral, for example, crystalline, rusty, azure.
Regular dragons (Black, Green, etc.) were created by the High Dragons, right?
Then all the rusty ones should be removed, as they are non-canonical.
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There is no higher-tier dragon available. Adding a new dragon would mean creating a new race.
And here we already have a whole world. It's non-canonical.
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