Posts from Mafia 29. Witch Hunt Auto-translated

Even though he acts like a Mafia member from the very first post, I think this is excessive.

Hmm... Do you think "whisper" is a block? Or am I not understanding the description correctly, or am I just slow... I'm going to reread it.

Isn't this part of your game with Gil? Meanwhile, he was returning from somewhere that night.

oh, by the way... I didn't even notice that he was coming back from somewhere :) Thanks for that fact.

And regarding playing on the same team with Gil - would I accuse him of something like that? I would just keep quiet and not draw attention to it. Not everyone, like me, will remember who Gobsèque is, or bother to look it up...

But the fact that you suddenly started accusing me of something unclear is interesting:smile50: What's with this sudden aggression? Over a perfectly logical post...

Whether it's a block or not doesn't matter; Vis Trit did nothing all night.

Staying silent is the worst thing you can do in such a situation; by the way, excuses say a lot, especially those kinds of excuses. Attacking Gil is logical; it's a way to deflect suspicion.

The newspaper didn't say that... Where did you get such confidence? So, what kind of Night Action was used on Vis?

By the way, I said that as a half-hearted thought, just an association. And Aves is so zealously defending him that it's even funny:rolleyes:

By the way, no... they could easily ignore this fact. If I were a Mafia member and a supporter of Gil, I would definitely keep quiet. Knowing his "urban" reputation, it could have been overlooked. People tend to follow the inertia.

It would be logical to attack him in 2 cases. No, even 3.
First, Gil has become very active (which isn't the case), he is already facing execution (which also isn't the case), and I (playing on the same team as him) want to clear my name by actively accusing him.
Second, I am a Mafia member from a competing team, and I am sure that Gil is a Mafia member, and I want to get him eliminated. Even if that were the case, Gil is a Mafia member, and in my opinion, the townspeople should still pay attention to him. And yes, in this scenario, they should also pay attention to me.
And third, the most obvious one. I really saw an interesting fact that raised suspicions...:rolleyes:

I always find it amusing how Gur is incredibly subtle in Mafia games.

I think a more accurate picture is roughly this:
On the first night, the Antichrist slit Hermit's throat, and the Adept used Dark Mass. Accordingly, the Necromancer blocked, and the Sorcerer stuck a piece of metal into someone's heart.
On the second night, the Antichrist killed the Treasurer, leaving no clues, and Archika-Adept was burned at the stake.
Thus, we have one clue pointing to the Antichrist and two pointing to the Sorcerer.

Antichrist - masks, possibly Gur.
Sorcerer - a piece of metal, a polished stone. Blacksmithing?... Jewelry?... Diadems in profiles?...
I strongly suspect this is another Vegtam-chain. Or maybe it's much simpler.

Yes, I find it interesting that Gil has barely shown up in the last two days, even though he was so eager to play more. Did he slip in a note? By the way, he's been reading this thread for a while, but he hasn't said a word yet.

In short. Since Gur has finally appeared and his modkill has been thwarted, I can vote for him on suspicion of being the Antichrist based on an interestingly interpreted clue. But it would be foolish to ignore Vishmaster. We can't say that poisoning was one of the official Mafia roles, as both occult roles are clearly visible - Vishrit's block and Slonysh's murder. The Thief robbed Vishmaster, promised to come to the person, and used what he had - poison. In a way, we got lucky, as two murders merged into one person.
The question is - who should we execute? In the first case, we have a clue; in the second, we have a role. In the first case, if we are not mistaken about the clue, we will reduce the number of demon worshippers to one, which will generally give the occultists a greater advantage and a better chance to strike at the villagers. In the second case, we will disperse the intensity of getting rid of the scum.

By the way, I said that almost in passing, just as an association. And Ayves is defending him so fervently that it's almost amusing.

So, here's the thing. Now that Gur has finally appeared and his kill has been thwarted, I can vote for him on suspicion of being an antichrist based on an interestingly interpreted clue. But it would be foolish to ignore Vishmaster. It can't be said that poisoning was one of the official mafia night actions, since both occult night actions are clearly visible - Vistrit's block and the killing of Slonysh. The thief robbed Vishmaster, promised to come to the person, and used what he had - poison. In a way, we got lucky, as two killings merged into one person.
The question is - who to execute? In the first case, we have a clue, in the second - a night action. In the first case, if we didn't misinterpret the clue, we will reduce the number of demon worshippers to one person, which will generally give the occultists a greater advantage and a better chance to strike at the town. In the second case, we will disperse the intensity of getting rid of the scum.

If the Blacksmith tries to block targets who are immune to his block, will this be reflected in the newspaper?

Hey, another question for you: if a player doesn't have the "faithful, pure" status, and the Marshal tries to protect them, how can you tell from the description whether the protection was successful? Or is it impossible to tell without attacking the target being protected?

Tako, let me give you a hint: pay attention to one of my notes in the 27th Mafia (I changed my name there with a specific hint, hehe). And see who I was targeting there. Maybe you'll understand.
And you shouldn't expect my analytical post now - it's too late, everything has already been discussed, although all the information is separate.

I'm filling out my table now. And what I don't like is the lack of the Blacksmith's action. At least, I don't see it. Nebo, if the Blacksmith tries to block those who are immune to his block, will it be reflected in the newspaper?

Morni, sorry for that clue about you. I haven't watched Doctor Who, yes, that's why I thought it was possible.

Nebo, another question for you: if a player's status is not "believer, clean," and the Marshal tries to protect him, how can you tell from the description whether the protection was successful? Or can you only tell without an attack on the object of protection? Simple logic - if the description in the newspaper indicates successful protection of Eaves, it also tells us about her status (i.e., she may be the Antichrist, and the clue from the first night was already linked to her). I personally think that you can't tell without an attack, but I would prefer to get confirmation/denial.

Tako, and I also think you are the Magister (I don't see any reason for the Marshal to protect anyone on the first night other than his partner with the resurrection ability, even if it's obvious). I will now address the Templars in general. I insist that you resurrect Slonysh next night. You have two options:
1. You refuse to help us restore the balance of power. You do your own thing. Then nothing will happen to you at night because of a couple of protectors and a doctor, but during the day we will unite with the Mafia and take turns eliminating you. If I'm wrong, and the Magister is not Tako, we have many ways to get rid of you. For example, we can eliminate Hermi in the vote. Those who have been hanged (burned) cannot be resurrected. And then you will be unable to do anything. I have another idea, but it's better to keep it to myself for now. If necessary, we have a backup plan, which also includes an alliance. The Mafia also needs this if they want to win, so think carefully about your choice.
2. The second option is more honest and interesting. You resurrect Slonysh. In this way, you help restore the balance. At least temporarily. It's pointless to target you now, the Mafia is almost complete. Later - yes, the "slaughter" will begin. But wouldn't it be better for you to try to win honestly, to try to influence the vote with your game? You will be able to resurrect Priora next night, the benefit will be the same (he is still without ND), and Slonysh will already be able to act and eliminate a Mafia member. You have nothing to lose.

You can, of course, try to go the first way, but... I promise you that I will personally arrange your defeat. The Mafia will be happy to use this method, because then they will almost certainly win. And the town - it's better for us to take a risk, try to win in an unequal fight with the Mafia, than to let you win simply because of the immortal trio at night. Show what you are capable of in a fair fight. And yes, this is not help for the town. This is a necessary move for your own survival.

And also, regarding Reg. He is either the Loan Shark or a Mafia member. If the Loan Shark bribes him next night, we will execute him tomorrow. The second note, shorter - I think it's protection from his team. Why? Because they wanted to confuse us, but they didn't take into account Ink's more detailed note. And now it's obvious which of the notes is real. If it were shorter, like the fake one, they could have really confused us. So I'm almost sure that Reg is in the Mafia. But we can't risk it anymore after the mistake with Neyra, so we'll wait for the night.

Tako, let me give you a hint: pay attention to one of my notes in the 27th Mafia (I changed my name there with a specific hint, hehe). And see who I was targeting there. Maybe you'll understand.
And you shouldn't expect my analytical post now - it's too late, everything has already been discussed, although all the information is separate.

I'm filling out my table now. And what I don't like is the lack of the Blacksmith's action. At least, I don't see it. Nebo, if the Blacksmith tries to block those who are immune to his block, will it be reflected in the newspaper?

Morni, sorry for that clue about you. I haven't watched Doctor Who, yes, that's why I thought it was possible.

Nebo, another question for you: if a player's status is not "believer, clean," and the Marshal tries to protect him, how can you tell from the description whether the protection was successful? Or can you only tell without an attack on the object of protection? Simple logic - if the description in the newspaper indicates successful protection of Eaves, it also tells us about her status (i.e., she may be the Antichrist, and the clue from the first night was already linked to her). I personally think that you can't tell without an attack, but I would prefer to get confirmation/denial.

Tako, and I also think you are the Magister (I don't see any reason for the Marshal to protect anyone on the first night other than his partner with the resurrection ability, even if it's obvious). I will now address the Templars in general. I insist that you resurrect Slonysh next night. You have two options:
1. You refuse to help us restore the balance of power. You do your own thing. Then nothing will happen to you at night because of a couple of protectors and a doctor, but during the day we will unite with the Mafia and take turns eliminating you. If I'm wrong, and the Magister is not Tako, we have many ways to get rid of you. For example, we can eliminate Hermi in the vote. Those who have been hanged (burned) cannot be resurrected. And then you will be unable to do anything. I have another idea, but it's better to keep it to myself for now. If necessary, we have a backup plan, which also includes an alliance. The Mafia also needs this if they want to win, so think carefully about your choice.
2. The second option is more honest and interesting. You resurrect Slonysh. In this way, you help restore the balance. At least temporarily. It's pointless to target you now, the Mafia is almost complete. Later - yes, the "slaughter" will begin. But wouldn't it be better for you to try to win honestly, to try to influence the vote with your game? You will be able to resurrect Priora next night, the benefit will be the same (he is still without ND), and Slonysh will already be able to act and eliminate a Mafia member. You have nothing to lose.

You can, of course, try to go the first way, but... I promise you that I will personally arrange your defeat. The Mafia will be happy to use this method, because then they will almost certainly win. And the town - it's better for us to take a risk, try to win in an unequal fight with the Mafia, than to let you win simply because of the immortal trio at night. Show what you are capable of in a fair fight. And yes, this is not help for the town. This is a necessary move for your own survival.

And also, regarding Reg. He is either the Loan Shark or a Mafia member. If the Loan Shark bribes him next night, we will execute him tomorrow. The second note, shorter - I think it's protection from his team. Why? Because they wanted to confuse us, but they didn't take into account Ink's more detailed note. And now it's obvious which of the notes is real. If it were shorter, like the fake one, they could have really confused us. So I'm almost sure that Reg is in the Mafia. But we can't risk it anymore after the mistake with Neyra, so we'll wait for the night.