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Scorpiona
13.2% 10 votes
Vasutka
3.9% 3 votes
KiNB
1.3% 1 vote
Sevan_80
3.9% 3 votes
Wishmaster
7.9% 6 votes
Mar
10.5% 8 votes
Never mind
25% 19 votes
Dogbas
5.3% 4 votes
SanDRo_
0% 0 votes
filowandel
0% 0 votes
soulist80114522293
9.2% 7 votes
R55Max
15.8% 12 votes
Sevensan
13.2% 10 votes
Cergo
0% 0 votes
ariputra
0% 0 votes
13v
5.3% 4 votes
Basir777
10.5% 8 votes
Vegtam
2.6% 2 votes
marajan
9.2% 7 votes
VahTank
0% 0 votes
Shamanёнок
5.3% 4 votes
prokaza88
0% 0 votes
c0nn3c71nkK.ppL
0% 0 votes
Cros
1.3% 1 vote
OskoloK
1.3% 1 vote
TERI
27.6% 21 votes
savier
0% 0 votes
Juristis
0% 0 votes
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15 years ago
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Are there any volunteers for the role of "X"? =)
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15 years ago
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31.01.2011 KiNB (Red, Castle, Valeska, Korbac) def Cergo (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2sm4d(3) 146

We each took one rest 111. After that, the generation was better.
111 I free Korbac from prison, level 5 with Expert Defense and Pathfinding + basic Attack. Scout hero reveals an external dwelling of Pikemen. Remembering the possibility of another rest, I think about casting View Earth and deciding then.
112 View Earth reveals two more external dwellings of Pikemen, a secondary Conflux, and two days from the castle a treasure zone with an external dwelling of Angels, a Dragon Utopia, and a Griffin Conservatory next to the Dragon Utopia. I decide without a doubt to play. My opponent also doesn't take a rest, so we play.
113 Crypt (minor). Korbac gets Wisdom.
114 I break through to the secondary Conflux. The main hero gets Earth:smile20:
115 I take the secondary town.
116-117 Clearing gold and resources. In the capital, dwellings 1, 2, 4, and 6 in the castle.
121-123 I return to the capital and buy Cavalry, which I upgrade at the Stables.
125 Secondary Conflux.
The second Angels never came due to a shortage of 5000 gold.
It starts to worry me that the revealed Shakti in the tavern is twice as strong in stats:smile07:
Week 3 and nothing to remember: shameful stagnation in place, taking the external dwelling of Angels (with 45 Archangels using pit fiends), and finally building them in the castle.
Shakti’s stats are already terrifyingly higher. I sense that in the fourth week my death will come.
141 Selling everything and buying 4 Angels + 1 already from the external dwelling. I set my sights on the Dragon Utopia, hoping at least to die with dignity.
142 I fight 38 Unicorns + 12 upgraded. Difficult without oil, but about 120 Pikemen come to the rescue.
Immediately I take the Griffin Conservatory +3:smile26: and then the Dragon Utopia.
I emerge with КЗ, some money, and hope that my opponent doesn't have Dispel Magic.
I set my sights on the Pandora's Box behind the crowd of Unicorns.
But then Shakti breaks through ГО and is a couple of steps short of reaching the capital.
143 Town Portal to the capital, upgrade Pikemen (about 200), buy the entire army. I have enough mana for one oil spell:eek: The opponent was afraid to attack me in the castle and retreated behind the Griffin Conservatory +1.
144 With 90 mana, I decided to attack Shakti. Who has 14-18-4-12, 5 Angels, 2 Dragons, 8 Cats, 43 Greater Basilisks, 23 Medusas, 27 Harpies. Korbac has 6-12-8-9, 9 Angels, 5 Cavalry, 15 Monks, 50 Archers, 183 upgraded Pikemen, and a few Griffins and Swordsmen.
In the end, Explosion on the Angels for 900 damage, I kill the Dragons with Angels. Second round, Explosion on the Basilisks, and the opponent surrenders. I thought he would concede, but no. I quickly run to my opponent's capital.
145 I didn't quite reach it, but I blocked the entrance/exit of the castle.
146 I finish off Shakti in the castle. He concedes.:smile15:

Thanks for the game.

Sorry. I couldn't write earlier — I had power issues.
A bitter loss. Shakti was a powerhouse. There was an army. There were plenty of alternatives.
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15 years ago
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soulist80114522293
Can someone explain the new bracket system, please? I have some doubts, is it just a random draw?

The winner of the upper bracket will face the winner of the lower bracket. Initially, everyone starts in the upper bracket, and all losers in the upper bracket will move to the lower bracket. Accordingly, those who lose in the lower bracket will be eliminated from the tournament. The one who wins the upper bracket in the final against the winner of the lower bracket will have an advantage (i.e., to win the tournament, they will need to win one game less).
I think that's how it should work.

I suggest the final should be best of 3.
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15 years ago
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InFog
We played a game with VahTank...
31.01.11. InFog (Blue, Tower, Aine) def VahTank (Red, Fortress, Sela) 2sm4d(3) 214
VahTank hired my mage in the tavern, it wasn't a surprise to me, but I was amazed at how he was blasting with lightning bolt and fireball (turns out he was an expert in water and fire + had the corresponding spheres). I relied on golems (anti-magic, those are) and relatively tanky (16 hp + plenty of them (sculptor's wings save the day)) gargoyles, mass haste also came in handy. That's basically what saved me. 33 wyverns were indeed a puzzle. Lucky with dwellings, I didn't have a single one. But I was glad there were no gorgons!
I built a capitol, by the way, it helped to buy everything out, the marketplace helped too, every last coin was spent, I had 12 wood left.
Aine: (Lightning bolt dealt 412)

Sela: (Ice dealt 478, fire 297)


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By the way, it turned out funny, basilisks attack an untouched stack of gargoyles and they turn to stone, next turn a single miraculously surviving genie casts cure on the gargoyles, lucky! :)

It was a good game, interesting.
In the first week, I find an external dwelling of wyverns and capture it - that's undoubtedly a plus. In the first week, I build a citadel and wyverns (I didn't have enough resources for hydras at all). Hence the 33 wyverns in the final battle. At the end of the first week, I realize I've scouted my entire territory and the respawn turned out to be tiny (consequently with very limited resources) - that's a minus. At first, I decide to play through the mage out of desperation, since I didn't get many troops from the start. While running to the external wyvern dwelling, I immediately noticed a sphere of fire, which I later took from the medusas. Until day 124, I run around the stat boosters on the respawn, open 2 crypts and one dwarf dwelling. On the way to my secondary hero, I discover a sphere of water - boundless joy, for that I even sacrifice 14 archers against coludnas. However, by the 3rd week, I realize that even if I build hydras, I won't have enough money to buy them all, so I decide to play without them entirely.
Lucky with the wells, by the way - 2 wells conveniently located near the road (1 on the respawn, 1 at the secondary hero) are very handy for a mage.
I already knew where my opponent was by the first week via the observatory, and after gathering my forces after the first month (bought everything that was there, left with 40 gold and 0 resources), I came to visit him.
Now I'm thinking, perhaps I shouldn't have gone onto the snow for that single point of attack power on the stat booster, then the genie wouldn't have moved first... Ah well.
The final battle started with mass haste and everyone piled on the wyverns, about 17 remained. My main spells: ice bolt ~450, fireball ~270. I cast mass bless once. I took out the archers on the first turn with dragonflies, and later with a fireball. The most dangerous things in the opponent's army are nagas and golems that are hard to take out with magic (the former are tanky, the latter are magic resistant). The nagas got eaten, but the golems then wreaked havoc. After the wyverns, the basilisks were next. And somehow I casually lost.
Though I almost believed until the very end that I would pull it off.
Thanks for the game, good luck in the tournament.
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15 years ago
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There's a suggestion to choose the best among the worst, or rather, the losers who didn't take the top spots. In other words, a battle of the underdogs.
15 years ago
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savier has disappeared somewhere...
what should I do?
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15 years ago
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Prince
I suggest choosing the best of the worst, or rather, the losers who didn't take first place. In other words, a battle of the underdogs.
I'm in:smile20: If that doesn't work out, I can be X or Y:D
OskoloK
savier has disappeared somewhere...
what should we do?
Don't worry so much, you'll get 1, you'll make it to the playoffs, I understand that you don't have to play right away, you can wait for the opponents to lose and get out of the group, and then it's up to fate :)
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15 years ago
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Prince
There's a suggestion to choose the best of the worst, or rather, the losers who didn't take the first places. In other words, a battle of the underdogs.
I think it would be interesting for us, as newcomers, to rank them. And in general, it would be good to organize a top three in tournaments. Bronze is also honorable :)
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15 years ago
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I apologize for the technical issues. I will sort everything out by morning. R55Max, thank you for covering for me.
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15 years ago
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Congratulations to everyone on completing the group stage, especially the 13 warriors who made it to the playoffs :) I will color them in different colors and write their names in large letters to celebrate this event. Three more of the eight third-place finishers will face a similar fate later.
I thank the rest for participating and wish them success in future battles. Grow up, and you will become big, beautiful, and strong, like Dogbas and Scorpiona :smile02:

Let's go..

Group A
Hitch - 1st place
R55Max - 2nd place

Hitch takes first place both based on the results of the head-to-head match and according to Berger's coefficient (which is essentially the same thing in this case). However, there's a problem with the third place... Shamanenok is third according to Berger, while Fidesxfx is third based on the head-to-head result. Since I don't consider either of these indicators more important than the second one... well, let's say that both guys managed to climb to third place, and we will resolve the issue using military methods :smile19:

Group B
Dima Surmay - 1st place
krutilo - 2nd place

Here everything is clear. begich'y received two technical defeats for being absent, but this did not affect the situation in the group.

Group C
WishmasteR - 1st place
marajan - 2nd place

OskoloK'y and savier'y declared a draw for an unfinished match. Sorry, guys. There is no more time. OskoloK from third place goes to try his luck in a battle with half of Group A.

Group D
Kill_Master - 1st place
13v - 2nd place

Everything is clear with Kill_Master; 13v takes second place according to Berger's coefficient. c0nn3c71nkK.ppL will try to make it into the playoffs from third place. Juristis'y received a technical defeat in the game against Kill_Master (based on the logs provided by icq, I understand that Juristis does not have time to play).

Group E
Scorpiona - 1st place
? - 2nd place

Scorpiona, bravo. You crushed them all :)
I apologize, guys, for slightly misleading you. I just can't let PlayHeroes be in second place after winning only one match... Since you are both conditionally in second place (read: since there is no one in second place), I suggest you play each other for it. That would be fairer. Yes, you are not to blame for failing to compete with Neverminder, but nik312 is also not to blame for being given this opportunity. In any case, your ticket to the playoffs costs less than those who will now tear two opponents apart on an unfamiliar map.
PlayHeroes- ariputra: please have another match between you for a spot. By default, use CM; if you agree, you can choose any map.

Group F
Dogbas - 1st place
InFog - 2nd place

Unfortunately, VahTank didn't manage to win; it would have been another great show... Thank you for trying nonetheless. InFog calmly advances from second place, while TERI will have to defeat two guys to advance..

Group G
Sevensan - 1st place
Vasutka - 2nd place

The result of the Князь - Cergo game won't change anything; I declared zeros. KiNB scratched out third place and joins TERI and c0nn3c71nkK.ppL.

The 13 warriors who were colored earlier now adorn the upper bracket of the playoffs, and 10 of them can already play. For obvious reasons, I will not set any time limits yet; I hope you are self-sufficient. But as soon as the third places play their matches, I will be strict.
Three players don't have opponents yet; we'll have to wait a bit for them.

In the qualifying games, people X and Y will be determined

X. Shamanenok, OskoloK, Fidesxfx
Y. TERI, KiNB, c0nn3c71nkK.ppL

You will play on the map 4sm0d
Settings: L+U, 4-0-0-0, no water, strong monsters, 160%.

Differences from the rules:
1. Castle Elimination.
You eliminate 6 castles in the following order:
green-blue-red-green-blue-red;
you inform me about the remaining three castles, I flip a coin and tell you who gets which castle, and also announce the computer's castle. It is more convenient to do this in Hamachi, and I advise you to first try to discuss and choose these three castles, and only if you cannot agree, then proceed with elimination. Sorry, but I couldn't come up with another way to eliminate for three players.
Yes, and it would be good to do this when I am online :)
2. Restarts.
Each player has one restart (111).
Again, if I am online, I can look at the generated map to check its playability (such as the presence of roads and the absence of strong blockades). I am often online.
3. Restart on Encounter.
There isn't one. You can attack an opponent's hero or castle starting from turn 112.

If something is unclear, ask.
Please try to play as soon as possible.

Good luck everyone!
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15 years ago
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I will be able to play via Hamachi only next week, any day after 7:00 PM Moscow time, or on the weekend of February 12-13.
15 years ago
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looked at savier's setup... a draw is a good result for him:cool:
just a heads-up, my hamachi isn't working, so I can only play through Garena:smile13:
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15 years ago
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TERI, OskoloK, experience suggests that it's best to agree on the terms with your opponents right away via ICQ. And don't forget to let me know once you've reached an agreement.
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15 years ago
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I’d like to revisit the panic before the tournament regarding the incredibly strong players. The leaders were TERI – 20 and Neverminder – 19, and the outcome in the playoffs was that TERI is still fighting for a spot, having come in 3rd, while Neverminder didn’t make it (I don’t know what happened, but…). Scorpiona – 10 and R55Max – 11 were in the middle of the rankings. Scorpiona confidently came in 1st (I’m sure the key to success was persistent preparation for the tournament), and R55Max came in 2nd (while some dark horses with 0 votes took 1st and 2nd place). What I’m trying to say is that you can beat any player. I hope the next newcomer won’t face similar problems and will trust the organizer’s experience.
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15 years ago
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The most interesting thing is that people voted for me even when I was already in 3rd place :D

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