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Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.

Я вернулся...
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...it's very strange that you didn't participate in it!!!?

Because this has been discussed and refined for quite some time, both by me and by users in the thread:

RANKING SYSTEM IN TOURNAMENTS
/topic/497/

After successful corrections and changes, the resulting system was successfully implemented at an offline Heroes 5 tournament.;)

It is presented in the topic:
TOURNAMENT RESULTS!
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The systems proposed in the topic you mentioned have not managed to prove themselves.


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Something needs to be done about the rating.
Your rating is good, but it is more individual and adapts better to beginners, and does not objectively reflect good gameplay AS A WHOLE!

We all need to AGREE on a SINGLE RATING for objectivity and ease of calculation across all versions in all Heroes tournaments!

After conducting the second offline Heroes 5 tournament, I urge you that this system will objectively show the ranking of both newcomers and active (regular) participants in the tournaments held on our website!;)

Simply assuming that this system is not very effective based on the results of only one tournament, I think...is not quite right.;)

However, this system can and even should be improved!;).
It is also possible to invent something new, but as practice shows, new things are very difficult to implement because they are initially not perfect...

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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Best regards, VDV_forever
Could you please tell me when the tournament will start? I'm already very nervous:rolleyes:. Is it possible to find out approximately when it will be?
Otherwise, I won't be able to sleep well at night:p.
Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

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Could you please tell me when the tournament will start? I'm already so nervous :rolleyes:. Can you give me an approximate time?
Otherwise, I won't be able to sleep at night :p

Soon, dear Geksorin, soon;)
As soon as the contest for the best map on www.heroesworld.ru ends, and I generate 5 save files from it;)
I think in about... 4-5 days:( :o, no sooner

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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I'm in!
Add me to the list, and I'll start working on the rules...

Suggestions:

1. Considering the complete lack of difference between difficulty levels 4 and 5 in the game (don't tell me that a small amount of resources fundamentally changes anything on the L-map, because the computer plays absolutely the same way on the last three levels – and the only difference is in the starting amount of resources...), I suggest combining them into one category and calling it the Highest League, and all saves will be generated at difficulty level 5. That is, there will simply be no difficulty level 4.

2. Similarly, levels 2 and 3 are quite close. They can also be combined (adjusted to difficulty level 3 – the "Bishop" level) and called the First League. (The names are, of course, conditional – we are only talking about the idea itself; the details can be discussed later).

3. We won't even consider the easiest level (difficulty level 1) – third-level heroes have been around for seven years, and it's doubtful that anyone is afraid to play on the "Bishop" level these days...

4. It is not permissible to allow entries in different categories – this is a flawed practice. The winner in the Highest League can easily make a copy of their playthrough and send it to the First League... There should be only one entry, and everyone can independently assess their qualifications beforehand. I am sure that most will play in the Highest League – simply because the tournament will be between players, not between a player and the computer. And in this case, what difference does it make which save to start with if everyone is initially in equal conditions?

The main goal is to reduce the number of categories, because it will be funny to see a winner in a category with only one participant. And that's exactly what will happen... :) And it's very doubtful that such a certificate of achievement will be hung on the wall by the winner :)

The value of victory must be tangible. And for the future ranking, it is still better to have a minimum number of categories; otherwise, the ranking will not be objective...

5. Honestly, dividing into categories based on the starting save level is not entirely correct... This changes little for the game. A more preferable option would be to divide into a General League (playing for points) and a Blitz League (playing for days), while the save is the same for everyone. And let it be on the "Bishop" level, it is completely irrelevant. Here, each participant will decide what is easier for them – to run around the map, defeat the opponent, and finish the game as quickly as possible (Blitz) or visit all the obelisks, dig up the Grail, capture the maximum number of cities – all this to get as many points as possible (General League)...

IMHO, as always.
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I'm in!
Add me to the list, and I'll get started on preparing...

I'm very glad that you are participating in our tournament!

P.S. But what is a "kosa"?
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Suggestions regarding the matter:

1. Considering the complete lack of difference between difficulty levels 4 and 5 in the game (don't tell me that a small pile of resources fundamentally changes anything on the L-map, because the computer plays absolutely the same way on the last three levels - and the only difference is in the starting amount of resources...), I suggest combining them into one category and calling it the Highest League, and all saves will be generated at difficulty level 5. That is, there will simply be no level 4.
Allow me to disagree with you;).
1. Yes, you are right to some extent that a small pile of resources won't play a significant role;), but 10,000 gold is quite likely! I don't need to explain to you that 10,000 gold is 4 heroes! And a small amount of resources is usually very necessary for one or another building in the early days;).
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2. By analogy, levels 2 and 3 are quite close. They can also be combined (brought to the third difficulty - "ladya") and called the First League. (The names are, of course, conditional - we are only talking about the idea itself, the details can be discussed later).

Absolutely not! This is approximately the same as the letter A being next to the letter B! Agree, they are very close in the alphabet, but absolutely different in sound and even meaning;!
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3. We will not consider the easiest level (difficulty 1) at all - third-level heroes have been on the scene for seven years, and it is doubtful that anyone is afraid to play on "ladya" these days...

Whether they are afraid or not, they play! Believe me! And not for money, not for fame, but just for fun! Moreover, they play deliberately! And there were such people, and I even hope they will play at this level in 50 years;). Otherwise, why is this difficulty level needed at all?
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4. It is not allowed to participate in different categories - this is a flawed practice. The winner in the Highest League can easily make a copy of their walkthrough and send it to the First... There should be only one application, and everyone can independently assess their qualifications. I am sure that most will play in the Highest League - simply because the tournament will be between players, not between a player and a computer. And in this case, what difference does it make which save to start with if everyone is initially on equal terms?

Thank you, I will think about it. There is still time;).

P.S. Perhaps the esteemed Prorock will be able to sort out this issue!
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The main goal is to reduce the number of categories, because it will be funny to see a winner in a category with only one participant. And that's what will happen... :) And it is very doubtful that such a certificate the winner will hang on the wall :).

I don't mind! As long as the participants are happy! If there were 10 difficulty levels, I would reward 10 people!
I will change the certificate to a more heroic one soon;).
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The value of victory must be tangible. And for the future rating, it is still better to have a minimum number of categories, otherwise the rating will not be objective...

For some, it will be very tangible! And for professionals, I think so too;). And we will deal with the rating;).
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5. Honestly, dividing into categories based on the starting save level is not entirely correct... This changes little for the game. A more preferable option is to divide into a General League (playing for points) and a Blitz League (playing for days), while the save is the same for everyone. And let it be on "ladya", it is completely irrelevant. Here, each participant will decide what is easier for him - to run around the map, defeat the opponent, and finish the game as quickly as possible (Blitz) or visit all the obelisks, dig up the Grail, capture the maximum number of cities - all this to get as many points as possible (General League)...

IMHO, as always.

We don't want to do the same thing as on other internet resources!
You will see what this changes during the tournament;).
In the opinion of the administration of our site, such a game should significantly increase the level of players in general! Not everyone can play at the most difficult level. But they want to play! So we provide them with this opportunity!

From easy to difficult is progress;
from difficult to easy is... (guess for yourself)

P.S. Thank you very much for your suggestions, they will definitely be considered!

With great respect, VDV_forever
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P.S. But what is a "косa"?
How shall I put it? A technical device for periodically cutting off excess greenery... :D
Allow me to disagree with you;) .
1. Yes, to some extent you are right — a fundamentally small pile of resources won't make a difference:) , but 10000 gold quite possibly will!..
I meant that there is no difference — EVERYONE starting simultaneously on the fourth difficulty or the fifth, because the AI plays the same and the conditions for development will be equal for all... Yes, on the fifth level there are no resources, so — nobody has any!.. And the level of play has nothing to do with it, you understand yourself that it won't change the amount of resources on the resp... :)
I don't mind! As long as the participants are happy! If there were 10 difficulty levels, I would reward 10 people!
Still, I disagree... :)

Firstly, if you were to propose right now giving a certificate to every second tournament participant — you would simply reduce its value to zero :) This is not a situation where the more, the merrier...

Secondly, how do you envision, for example, rewarding a single participant on the second difficulty level? What is the point of such a reward? It's all the same to you, but the "winner," I think, would feel awkward and resentful about wasted time, because such an award would also hold no special meaning for them... I am proceeding from the fact that currently, on average, no more than three or four people are registered per nomination.

By the way, it would be a good idea to indicate in advance, along with the application, who will play on which difficulty level. Why make a secret out of this? For instance, I would like to play on the fifth... But what if no one else wants to? Then I will play where there are more opponents... And if there is a risk of playing for nothing, is it even worth playing at all?..

After all, we're not playing for a certificate... :D

The only reason to hide this information would be to try to register for the nomination with fewer opponents — but then why even join the tournament at all? :)
We don't want to do the same thing as on other internet resources!
I didn't have that goal either... No one has managed to reinvent the wheel yet, and why even bother reinventing it?..

But! As they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do..." you know the rest yourself :)
We'll play — and we'll see! I eagerly await the start. Good luck to you and all the tournament participants!
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By the way, it would be good to indicate in advance who will play on which difficulty level along with the application. Why make a secret out of it? For example, I would like to play on the fifth level... But what if no one else wants to? Then I will play where there are more opponents... And if there is a risk of playing in vain, is it worth playing at all?..
AmberSoler's words are not without merit. And in particular, this one. I will play on the most difficult level.

In fact, players who play on a difficult level can easily repeat playthroughs on easier levels. So, will it turn out that one player will take all the certificates - saving on wallpaper :) and no repairs will be needed. Wouldn't it be better for everyone to agree to play on the same difficulty level - for example, on the medium level - there are only 17 of us for 5 difficulty levels.

However, let's introduce more certificates for awarding. Three prize-winning ones (1, 2, 3)
Then there are 2 certificates - they were in the top five :)
Then there are 5 certificates - they were in the top ten.
And the remaining participants receive consolation certificates - they were there!
The pictures on the certificates will be different depending on the nomination.

Thus, everyone will compete together, and no one will be left without certificates, which is what the tournament organizers want.
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This way, everyone will compete together, and no one will be left without an award, which is what the tournament organizers want.
Solomon! :) I agree!
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I'll add to that. Here, you definitely won't get more than one award, and the situation where a player is the only participant on a particular difficulty level is also eliminated.

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Solomon! :) I support it!
:) Let's see what other participants will say about Solomon's decision. If everyone supports it, I think the organizers won't object either.
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Let's see what the other participants will say about this Solomon's decision. If everyone supports it, I think the organizers won't object either.

I hope Prorock will drop by and share his opinion;
Both participants and organizers. You are absolutely right, IronAxe


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By the way, it would be good to indicate in advance with the application who will play on which difficulty level. Why make a secret out of it? For example, I would like to play on the fifth level... But what if no one else wants to? Then I will play where there are more opponents... And if there is a risk of playing in vain, is it worth playing at all?...

And this is really very and very reasonable! I support it!
P.S. Fortunately, there is time, so the rules can be changed;
I would like to hear what the respected participants of the tournament think about this!

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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:) Let's see what other participants will say about this Solomon's decision. If everyone supports it, I think the organizers won't object either.
I vote "FOR"!
There's no need to act like children here. Those who can't play shouldn't participate in tournaments.

P.S. I liked the certificate "They were there..." :) :) :)
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P.S. I liked the inscription "They were there..." :) :) :)

I keep thinking about redoing it with a Heroes-themed design (girls transforming... girls transforming... into dragons or druids, or someone else from the fantasy world :D :D :D).

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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I keep thinking about redoing it with a "Heroes" theme (girls transforming... girls transforming... into dragons or druids, or someone else from the fantasy world :D :D :D)

Best regards, VDV_forever
Forget the girls, dragons are better!
Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

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That's a really good and sensible idea! I support it!
P.S. Since there's time, the rules can be changed;
I'd like to hear what the respected participants of the tournament think about this!

Changing the rules regularly isn't very good, but maybe we could just have a couple of categories: medium and impossible (or hard). Maybe even better: hard. As practice shows, playing on impossible depends on many factors, and not everyone will be able to adapt to it in a short period of time.

P.S. And we don't need a lot of certificates: after all, it's a competition.
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