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Considering that the Punishment System on Volde may lead a Player to a Permanent Ban, I ask you to express your opinion (vote) on whether or not it is necessary to change the Punishment System. My opinion is that the existing Punishment System should be changed, under which a Player can be permanently banned on Volde for the manner of their expression. There are proposals. 1. System. The Player is permanently banned. Interested parties initiate an Open Poll in the Section(s) of the Resource where the Player "resided." A vote is held on the topic: "for" unbanning, or "against" unbanning. Forum members who have been registered for at least 1 month (the period is not critical) before the Player is permanently banned can vote in the Poll. Based on the results, the Player is removed from the Permanent Ban with a "minus" of 100 Violation Points (or, accordingly, is not removed). There can be only one vote for each permanent ban. And so on indefinitely, as long as the Players of Volde have trust. 2. System. There is no System for assigning Points; Moderators simply remove Insults and Profanity, and everything else for which Points were assigned. 3. Do not change the Punishment System on Volde. 4. Something else.

Something else:

Just remove all penalty points, say, by New Year's (but it's already passed), so then by February 23rd. Of course, this doesn't apply to those who are permanently banned.

4. Replace the term "eternity" in relation to the ban duration with "month." Ask the game's creator to implement a system where, upon a repentant user's ban expiration, a certain number of points are deducted (25, for example; I think that's reasonable for relative freedom).

Well, the first option has already taken shape on its own, so it can be translated as "leave it as is".

a permanent ban is harsh. but for regular customers, the bonus increases in an arithmetic progression.

Sorry, wrong topic.
Second, people live on other forums without points and don't worry about it. Why not conduct this poll in the "suggestions for development" section, where it belongs and where more people would notice it?

I agree with Kash, a month or a couple of weeks is enough.

4.
Replace the term "eternity" in relation to a ban with the term "month." Ask the creator to arrange it so that when a repentant user exits a ban, the system deducts a certain number of points (25, for example; I think that's enough for relative freedom).

I agree +1

4. I don't understand what the maximum number of points is, etc., so here's how it works: After earning N points, there's a three-month ban (T). It might seem long, but if you managed to get the maximum points, you should be willing to wait. A month is too short; there are often breaks of two months or more due to real-life issues. After each subsequent unban, the maximum number of points becomes 0.5N, and the ban time is 2T.

I agree with Cash. A permanent ban should only be considered for particularly egregious offenders, but the decision about this should definitely not be made by an automated system...

RiMpel2, explain to those who are slow to understand how this will work in practice.

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Having issues with the automated system? If so, patching the system isn't difficult.

Here's an example:

1. User - post - 25 points
2. User - post - 25 points
3. User - post - 25 points
4. User - post - 25 points
5. Ban for 3 months
6. User - post - 25 points
7. User - post - 25 points
8. Ban for 6 months, etc.

If you're asking about who assigns these points and how, I'm not sure who's currently in charge of that.

P.S. Initially, the maximum is 100 points, and a violation results in a deduction of 25 (just to be clear, this is just an example for this specific post!).

1. Interested parties initiate an Open Poll in that Section(s) of the Resource where the Player "resided." A vote is held on the topic: "for" unbanning, or "against" unbanning. Forum members who have been registered for at least 1 month (the period is not critical) before the Player is placed in a Permanent Ban can vote in the Poll. Based on the results, the Player is removed from the Permanent Ban with a "minus" of 100 Violation Points (or, accordingly, is not removed). There can only be one vote for each instance of a Permanent Ban. And so on, endlessly, as long as the Players trust the administration.

Pasha, don't you understand that all these votes about unbanning are nonsense? It turns out that if you have many friends who will vouch for you, you can do and say anything you want?

2. System.
There is no system for assigning Points; moderators simply remove insults and profanity, and everything else for which Points were assigned.

At some point, we will face the fact that moderators will stop cleaning up all the mess (they'll say there is no system, so let it be), and the forum will turn into a garbage dump.

3. The Punishment System on the forum should not be changed.

It doesn't need to be changed. This system has existed for several years and, for some reason, except for WLK777, it suits everyone (I'm talking about this section; I don't know about others). Why do you think that is?

4. Something else.

I think that before opening this topic, it would have been possible to somehow reveal the "something else" option; otherwise, we will have to open another topic with another vote. Although this is already the norm. :)

If we are going to change something, we can replace the permanent ban with a temporary one, but the period should increase in progression for each subsequent ban. And deducting a few points on holidays (Oelm suggested) is also a useful option, because points are not only given for swearing. And getting banned, for example, because you "use a font larger than 3 in your signature" is somehow wrong.

There should be a system, and it should work regardless of anyone's wishes. I agree that it's silly to award points for font choices; it's enough to say that using certain fonts is not allowed, and if someone doesn't listen, then points should be deducted for violating the rules. A ban should be considered as a measure to protect others from someone's misdeeds. If the majority wants to exclude someone from participating in the portal's activities, it means that this person has caused enough trouble and done enough bad things, and therefore should be punished. The duration of the punishment should have a beginning and an end, as an incentive to re-evaluate actions, and the time should not be short. It should be understood that not everyone will be banned, but only the most malicious and unruly users. 3 months is the minimum, and then the duration should increase. I doubt that a kind-hearted person will ever be banned.

I support the idea of a "temporary ban" with a progression system. From 2-3 months to indefinitely... And all sorts of subjective polls like "execute or pardon" – let's ditch them. Option 4.