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This thread is for discussing trivial matters and engaging in pointless arguments about the game!!
Not for discussing real-life issues!
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Let me start by saying that love is not a feeling, but a state of the soul (not the body). Love in itself does not carry negative emotions; it is never selfish. Now, let me explain: if a person loves, they will only wish good things for the object of their affection. If the loving person learns something bad about the person they love, then other feelings come into play, which introduce doubts, anxieties, and so on.
First, you say that love is selfless, and then you bring in some desires. What do desires have to do with it? Desires are desires, products of the mind. So, a person loves, and they love. Does their love change depending on whether they receive a response or not? Thoughts may arise, again, desires, but can the feeling itself change so easily depending on whether or not they are loved in return? I don't think so. Otherwise, that would be selfishness. And since true love is selfless, i.e., it requires NOTHING in return, how can you talk about the degree of love depending on the reaction? Where does this even come from?
R55Max

All human feelings are personal perceptions as a result of something or just like that :)
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In general, you can be in love, but building love is much more difficult.
And now, specifically: Love is not love if it receives unrequited love in return; unrequited love is just infatuation.
Love is a spiritual feeling and cannot happen, for example, with an object that is dear to us (not spiritual).
Can love be built? Is it a house? Maybe you can share a plan or blueprints? I've always thought that you can build relationships (based on love, for example), since this is a product of the mind in a sense. And how do you manage your feelings (emotions)? You either feel something or you don't. These are products of the soul. It always wants something, and always wants what is right. A feeling, an emotion is a manifestation of the soul's desire, its state. It is incorrect to talk about the OBJECT of these desires, because they relate only to the soul.
For example: a person is sick. There is a person, there is their state. It is incorrect to say that if they have one disease, caused by certain reasons, etc., they are sick, and if they have another, they are not.
A person (soul) experiences joy, love, sadness... What does this have to do with anyone or anything?
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Chat here, don't listen to anyone. Actually, it's interesting to read how others, and mostly young people, perceive this incomprehensible and incredibly pleasant state of mind for themselves. You were a little late with this topic; if it had been a bit earlier, when I was experiencing the first waves, I could have written you a lot. Now it feels a bit awkward. In general, I'll tell you, there have always been pragmatists who seriously explain love as sexual attraction or hormones. Poor, deprived people; what can you say?
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Well, why not here? That's what this thread is for.
This was a meaningless outburst from someone unfamiliar with the subject...
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Juristis
I'm sorry, I completely disagree with you. I'll explain in more detail why.
1. I don't consider love to be any kind of state of the soul. And I don't quite understand what this "state of the soul" is. So I disagree with the definition of love.
2. Your first situation. These feelings, such as jealousy, anger, etc., do not prevent love; that's why they say, "Jealousy means love." As for infatuation, I don't even know; infatuation lasts for a short time, usually from a couple of months to half a year. It is a strong surge, passion, and a lot of emotions. You wrote about passion above; passion is part of infatuation.
3. The second situation, a mother who stopped loving her child, whom she raised and brought up, seems like a fantasy to me. Maternal love, in my opinion, is the strongest; I don't believe that any fear can overcome it. That's why it is allowed not to testify against one's family; otherwise, there would be a lot of false testimonies.
4. I agree with the first sentence of the last paragraph. I disagree with the rest.
P.S. Are you a romantic? You elevate this feeling so much.

You disagree, but love doesn't need to be elevated. It already is what people strive for. It's not about romanticism, but about the ability to understand what someone is trying to convey. Don't live in a pink bubble. Sometimes mothers hate their children, kill them, or sell them. Anything is possible in life.
Never mind what anyone says. Read the Gospel; you'll understand a lot.
Infatuation can last for any amount of time; it is the desire of one person and has no response.
We are all not perfect; the laws are created by us, imperfect people, for ourselves (what can be said about the fact that there are different laws in different countries).

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Kash
Chat here, don't listen to anyone.
Actually, it's interesting to read how others, and mostly young people, perceive this incomprehensible and incredibly pleasant state of the soul.
You were a little late with this topic; if it were a little earlier, when I was overwhelmed by the first waves, I would have written so much to you... Now it's a bit awkward.

In general, I'll tell you, there have always been pragmatists who seriously explain love as sexual attraction or hormones... Poor, deprived people; what can you say?
And you, shove this awkwardness somewhere :) The topic is generally limitless :) A billion opinions. But it's also impossible to bring them to a single opinion because we are all different, but we can and should share and discuss
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Kash
In general, I'll tell you, there have always been pragmatists who seriously explain love as sexual desire or hormones... Poor people deprived of life, what can you say :)
It is not a fact that they are poorer and more deprived than those who explain it in other ways... At least materially, they are certainly wealthier on average. Love is the strongest (even too strong, monstrously strong feeling) and under its influence an egoistic person can commit various idiotic acts, which can lead them to very unpleasant consequences... and when the feeling of love finally passes, they will remember what they did under its influence and be ashamed and even horrified by it. In love, it is important to know how not to let oneself go... Simply when it seems that if not with the loved one, then living is foolish, absolutely pointless, behavior can easily become inadequate....

P. S. And generally, somewhere on the forum there is a topic called "Love - happiness and pain."

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Psyche_7
And can love be built? Is it a house?
Well, there is a show DURDOM2 where that's exactly what they do... I don't actually watch it, so I don't know how their progress is... and those who watched it before discussed it a lot, but I still haven't understood if anyone managed to build anything there or not idk...
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
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Well, Vova, why do you need these kids?))
And Cash even climbed into their sandbox...
An adult, the father of 2 tournaments)))
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Have you read it? And if so, in what language, I wonder? Semitic languages are very complex; it's not easy to learn one of them, and you make a lot of mistakes even in Russian – so it's doubtful that it's the original.
But an adapted translation that isn't in the original language is no longer the Torah, just as the Quran in any language other than Arabic is no longer the Quran.
You can extract quotes from any book to create the desired impression.

I apologize for the mistakes.

You are right, Sanskrit, Semitic languages, and Chinese are very complex, and it is practically impossible to learn them.

But if, during the translation of the Torah and the Quran, the essence, meaning, and spirit were preserved, and nothing was distorted, then how does the translation differ from the original language?

I read a Russian translation of the Torah (translated for Russian-speaking Jews, taken from a synagogue), as well as Shulchan Aruch ("Covered Table" - information ready for use - an instructional document) - excerpts from the Torah and Kabbalah, translated for Russian-speaking Jews. Where, in plain text, non-Jews are called two-legged animals.
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But there is no need to harbor animosity towards Jews; they are not the cause of our problems and suffering; they are the executors of our karma.
The cause of all problems lies within the person himself; you get what you deserve.


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Oelm

A person from nowhere. There is a mixture of truth and lies in your words, and it's quite clumsy. Some kind of panicked retreat into oneself and spiritual poverty. Yes, it's no secret to those interested in what the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are doing!
But what an interesting explanation for everything - people are angels in human form, but someone is interfering with their lives, someone doesn't love them, someone, imagine, lives better than them. Friend, you are a representative of a huge army of losers. You can read E. Limonov's book of the same name; it says everything about you. Maybe it will sober you up a bit. A man always blames someone else - a neighbor who lives better than him. And why is he better? Because he knows some dark forces, he's a demonic personality. What you're talking about is generally an archetype. You live in a pigsty, but you will never admit that you are getting in this life what you actually deserve, if not more. The search for an scapegoat is typical for a person, for a Russian, and for everyone in general. You just think that if the Jews supposedly didn't interfere with life, it would be easier for people like you. And the main reason is that they are demonic personalities. Maybe we should burn them at the stake, and then you will live happily ever after. And you know, for me, people like you are demonic personalities. I'm not joking; it's a vulgar poverty of the inner world, a stupid imitation of other people's views, and calling it a communal regime. After all, this is primitiveness - are you inviting everyone to join you? You see, your main attribute is ignorance, and of a very superficial kind. Active stupidity is also called.

Besides everything else, no one denies that the people who advanced science and art were mostly of Jewish nationality. And not only banks, but also research centers and organizations were created by the Jewish people as well, including environmental ones.

I personally don't care what nationality Putin, Medvedev, or, say, Surkov are. I think that a person should be judged by his actions. But let's not talk about politics.

Do you see the difference between us? If we were both in a mess, I would try to get out, and you would look for someone to blame, preferably someone of a different nationality, a Jew or a Gypsy, so that your soul would feel more comfortable. And if I got out earlier, I would still be to blame for you, and you would die of black envy.

I apologize if I offended you in any way.
I agree with what you wrote.
I am a demonic personality, a scoundrel, and a villain.
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
"Неизвестная история человечества. Запрещенная археология (с иллюстрациями), Майкл Кремо, Ричард Томпсон,479с,1.46 Мб.
Вакцинация младенцев в роддомах преступление!
Вред прививок или правда о вакцинации
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Among Jews, there's a split like in the Air Force. There are truly humane Jews, and there are utter scum who'd trade their conscience for a price without a second thought. Well, let's call the first ones "Jews" and the second ones "kikes." No argument, the Jewish nation is not lacking in talent. So, those among them who invest their talent in art, science, and the like achieve success—those kind of Jews I respect, i.e., a fact of spiritual presence. But those who see the essence of life in obsessively chasing a price by any means
(mostly by cheating, stabbing in the back, selling out, trampling over corpses, acting two-faced—saying one thing to your face and another behind your back, and other methods of success), and then even
strut around and boast about what a kosher gentleman they are while everyone around them is scum—those should be put on a spike. And as it happens, the second type is noticeably more numerous. No argument, there is no bad nation, only bad people. The dislike of non-Jews toward Jews
stems from the fact that Jews declared themselves the chosen nation, like they're upgraded while the rest were born in the woods, and they even rigged the Bible heavily in their favor. And most clergymen drill into the people how righteous, proper, and
spiritual they are, while they themselves prance around in leather pants in front of icons with young boys. They've created systems
and sip blood.:smile23:
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I respect all peoples, even the Roma, and if there is animosity towards a specific person, I never associate it with their nationality. Since nations exist, it means God willed it, which means everyone is chosen.
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You couldn't have put it better than Beshi did. Let's close the topic about Jews.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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Kostyan, write something about love :smile43:
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Kash
Kostyan, write about love :smile43:

Here's a topic for you))
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Nagan-4
When girls played in my tournaments, the arguments and swearing stopped on their own. That's exactly what we need for order on the forum – more female players, it would be a huge plus. :)
I agree about the tournaments, but on the forum, various people with their posts provoke negativity...
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Yeah, but at least we have all sorts of "guys" who behave worse than women.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

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