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Offline Happy Life
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This is a clever directorial move, designed to create intrigue and ambiguity in the happy ending. In cards, money, and two smoking guns, it's done better. And at the same time, it gives the action movie the appearance of having some kind of final moral.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Indeed, that makes sense.
Except for the first paragraph and the last sentence. They all woke up right at the end of the flight, even though they used the ejection. In reality, they shouldn't have slept for even an hour, judging by the time spent in the first layer, and they couldn't have left the first layer at all, since no one woke them up from the outside. I suppose, after the ejections, they slept the rest of the time "without dreams"? Skepticism.
What does the fact that one of the participants was in a dream have to do with it? If that were possible, the hero and his wife wouldn't have had any problems; they could have dealt with her, as well as with any other projections.
The film clearly doesn't show at what specific time they woke up; they simply wake up in the plane, and the next scene shows them already at the airport. Maybe an hour was enough for them, and they just chatted about life for the rest of the time. Also, the film doesn't really show how they got out of the first dream; in theory, they should have woken up because of the plane crash, but they somehow ended up on the shore. I've never considered the fact that the old man on the third level said something meaningful as a plot hole; rather, you can simply imagine it yourself, as well as the fact that the film doesn't explain the principle of operation of this device that immerses them in the General dream. I'm more interested in why Robert Fischer, after waking up in the plane, doesn't remember that the people next to him were in his dream; it seems that memory is preserved after sleep. Well, in general, there are always some plot holes and inaccuracies in films.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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The film doesn't explicitly show the specific time period when they woke up; they simply wake up on the plane, and the next scene shows them at the airport.
They wake up on the plane, and the flight attendant starts approaching them one by one with a brochure, saying, "We're landing in twenty minutes." :)
I'm more interested in why Robert Fischer, after waking up on the plane, doesn't remember that the people next to him were in his dream.
People generally don't remember most of their dreams, and even those they do remember, they don't remember very clearly. Probably, if he did remember the dream, it was only in terms of images and ideas.
And here's something else that's unclear to me. Was the girl the architect on all levels, or was each person on their own level, or were they all working together? I remember the ventilation system at the mountain base, but that was the heir's dream, obtained through a projection of his mind. Whose ventilation system was it? His addition, or, if I remember correctly, Aimes', as he was the formal architect of that layer? And why were they looking for a girl for that role in the first place? For the first level?
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Morning
They wake up on the plane, and the flight attendant starts approaching them one by one with a brochure, saying, "We're landing in twenty minutes." :)
Hmm, that's true. But earlier, Imes clearly states that it takes at least ten hours. Apparently, the correct method of calculating time, taking into account multiple levels, is known only to the director.
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And here's something else that's unclear to me. Was the girl an architect on all levels, or was each person on their own, or were they all working together? I remember the ventilation in the mountain base, but that was the heir's dream, obtained through a projection of his mind. Whose ventilation was it? His addition, or, if I remember correctly, Aims's, as he was the formal architect of that layer? And why were they looking for a girl for this role in the first place? For the first level?
Starting around 1:40 in the film, there's a scene explaining what the heroes need to do on this level. The protagonist says that he shouldn't know the route, and the next phrase from the female architect is, "I created it," the semantic connection isn't very clear (it might be a dubbing error), but it seems that the architect created all the levels.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Offline Майор Вихрь
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I decided to watch the Russian adaptation of the Strugatsky brothers' novel "Roadside Picnic." I hadn't wanted to watch it before, but I just finished reading the book yesterday, and I became curious to see the film. In the end, I wasn't disappointed. However, it wasn't because the film was great, but because I got exactly what I expected. But some things even pleased me. For example, the main character's image was well-chosen (although his acting wasn't impressive, it still turned out quite well), and some of the actors played their assigned roles well. First and foremost, this is Alexei Serebryakov, who played the role of the Stalker. For the domestic film industry, the film turned out to be quite large-scale. However, in some moments, it was too obviously Hollywood-style, which I didn't like. The plot was altered in places (especially noticeable when the protagonist inserted some kind of droid into his ear and immediately began to understand the language of the people inhabiting the unfamiliar planet and, accordingly, could speak this language fluently. This didn't happen in the book; initially, no one understood him, and he didn't understand anyone, and this was described quite interestingly). Overall, it turned out to be somewhat chaotic, as if the director wanted to show as many different scenes from the book as possible, but due to the film's length limitations, some were not fully developed. The film hardly makes much sense on its own, so the verdict is: *If you haven't read the book, you probably don't need to watch it.*
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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After watching this movie, you should definitely read the book. Otherwise, a lot of things won't make sense. The film itself isn't exactly bad, but Bondarchuk is probably not the right person to adapt the story of the brothers. Although there is an idea, which is somewhat encouraging.
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Watched "Law Abiding Citizen," a thriller. The film is good, even very good; I'm planning to rewatch it, but I won't add it to my list of favorites. I want to share a trailer for the film, remade in the style of TF2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Mu1qJQytY

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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If you haven't read the book, you might not want to watch it.
It's too late, I've already seen the movie. I think it was about a year ago, I don't remember exactly. And I didn't understand much.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Offline MedjersoN_HP
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Major Vikhr
I ended up watching the Russian adaptation of the Strugatsky brothers' novel "Roadside Picnic." I hadn't wanted to watch it before, but I just finished reading the book yesterday, and I became curious to see the movie.

I watched the movie in the cinema, only the first part. In general, my opinion is that it's as Vikhr said, but two, three, four... times worse.
It was a long time ago, and everyone was talking about it then; I'll mention it again.
1) The image of the main character is certainly colorful, but the acting is not just bad; it's practically non-existent. :smile32: Vasily Stepanov portrays most of the emotions in the film with a silly smile.
2) While watching the film, I simply noticed many obvious editing errors.
3) Serebryakov's performance is undoubtedly worthy of praise.
4) Unlike Bondarchuk's film :smile04:
5) We went to see the film with a person who remembered the book's content very well. As it turned out, he found many inconsistencies in the film, which arose because Bondarchuk changed the plot of certain scenes or cut out something very important without changing other events.
6) And most importantly: the Strugatsky brothers' book was very deep, meaningful, and relevant (and still is). Bondarchuk (and how did he manage to do this?) preserved the author's text but completely removed all the meaning. That is, the film is just a typical modern action movie.
7) P.S. and they didn't explain to the audience what "Massaraksh" means. =)

In general, the film is pointless to watch without reading the book. :smile01:

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается
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"Fight Club". The plot and acting are good, but I liked the director's and cinematographer's work less. I want to find the book and read it.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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I watched "Cloverfield." The movie was good; it keeps you on the edge of your seat, plus it has an unusual filming style and a great ending.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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I watched the beginning of your film. The movie is, of course, amazing, but it's unclear what they're doing, where they're running, where they end up, and why. It's a mishmash of events, and you have to sit there and figure it out.
Maybe it's to boost box office numbers by having viewers watch the film multiple times?
Damn! At least use quotation marks sometimes!!!
I watched "The Edge" and "Christmas Trees." They're just okay movies. But "Christmas Trees" is suitable for the New Year.
ДУРАКОВ ОЧЕНЬ МАЛО, НО ОНИ РАССТАВЛЕНЫ ТАК ГРАМОТНО, ЧТО ВСТРЕЧАЮТСЯ НА КАЖДОМ ШАГУ.
Прошу прощения у Arandor-а. Я слишком резко отреагировал. Просто очень люблю спорт. Извини...[/SIZE]
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I recently watched Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It's amazing, but true – Harry and Hermione are already drinking, smoking, swearing, and having sex, yet in the film, they're still considered minors. Not long ago, I saw a photo of Harry in a club – he's got a beard, his face is red, and in the film, he's still portrayed as a young boy. Haha.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
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Vegtam
"Fight Club." The plot and acting are good, but I liked the director's and cinematographer's work less. I want to find the book and read it.
Palanik is definitely an acquired taste. I only managed to get through one of his books. Fight Club didn't appeal to me at all. This author is just too "unique" for me, I guess...
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I haven't watched "Harry Potter" since the 4th part, and I don't plan to. After reading the books, watching the film adaptations is completely uninteresting.
"Fight Club" is an interesting film; it's quite ambiguous, and everyone finds their own ideas in it. And some don't find anything at all. I've seen it has very high ratings, but I wouldn't say it really affected or captivated me. Maybe I should rewatch it. Maybe I should read it.
I saw "Monster." It has a really interesting filming style, and that's what creates the tension; you feel like you're right there with the characters. It's just strange that the film's title was translated into Russian. Overall, it's worth watching.
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