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We need to figure this out calmly. We shouldn't stoop to animalistic behavior!
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We need to figure this out while in a tank:D We can't stoop to the level of animals!
Yeah, but they might throw something under the tank.
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I’m just kidding :) But the point is valid.
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Terrible things are being discussed. There are Siberians living in Siberia!!! They are tired of being treated as second-class citizens. Do you know how much of the total value of extracted resources remains in Siberia? 10%! And the rest goes to Moscow, and then the Siberians have to humbly beg for their own money! This is not good. And in 10-20 years, the Chinese will peacefully take over the Far East and Siberia. And no one will object. In Chechnya, there are more Russian troops than the entire population, and they still can't completely win. And what if the Chinese introduce their troops into Siberia "to protect the vital interests of their citizens"? Moscow won't lift a finger to help the subhuman Siberians.
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You're wrong. First of all, Siberians are not treated as "subhumans"; quite the opposite, they are deeply respected and liked in Moscow. Of course, I mean the "non-criminal" Muscovites, of whom there are quite a few, but they have very little influence, so they believe that Moscow is only populated by criminals. In reality, normal Muscovites have simply been pushed into the background so that careerists can more easily exploit them. As for the Chinese, I'll say this: they will come! And they will definitely come if we continue to tear each other apart, saying things like "Moscow is like this, but in St. Petersburg there is crime, and in Siberia it is cold." Perhaps I will now express myself like Zhirinovsky, but the fact is a fact: I don't know about China, but America is just waiting for this! Maybe some of you remember the Dulles Plan, developed back in 1945? And this plan is already being implemented through games, television, and the internet. I'll tell you this: if this continues, Russia will eventually completely fall apart. It is already falling apart. First Finland, then Ukraine, now Chechnya... I hope that none of the politicians are playing heroes and visiting this forum, because I will most likely be arrested for what I am about to say: Russia needs a Tsar! The best form of government is monarchy. The Tsar does not come for a specific term, but for life. Unlike a president, he does not need to be elected by the people to provide for his family until the arrival of a new leader, because power is passed down by inheritance. Yes, there are different Tsars: some are cruel and warlike, but the question is: are presidents and chairmen of the Council of Ministers of a different character? They are just people. Every form of government has its drawbacks, but monarchy is the most optimal of them. And personally, I think that sooner or later our (Russian) man will get tired of all this, and all the current "democracy" will be flushed down the toilet, and there will be a monarchy again, remember my words! This is my personal idealistic opinion. So to speak - IMHO
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America shouldn't be feared – it's far away. Yes, it needs our resources, but China needs our land. On Chinese maps, all the lands up to the Urals are considered a Chinese province. And it's not America that should be feared, it's not America that should be fought against. I also support a monarchy, but a Soviet-style monarchy. Soviets are the best democratic body. Elections are held based on a production principle, and there is the right to recall deputies. It's also possible not to gather a single body – instead, organize an online meeting for all deputies. This way, they won't be separated from their voters and will continue to work at the same enterprises. And the monarch will rule according to the principle of sobornost, as it was in pre-Petrine Russia. That's when there was true democracy.
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Well, I don't even know. Ivan the Terrible reined in the boyars because they were making his life impossible. I prefer the monarchy of the Russian Empire. That's where the golden age of the nation was! Lenin staged the revolution not to liberate the people, but for his own selfish goals, as banal as American humor – for the sake of power. From the very beginning, the revolutionaries incited the people to revolt through various kinds of "set-ups" against Nicholas II. In particular, there was the incident when the people came to the Tsar's palace, and they were shot from the windows! And Nicholas wasn't even in the palace at that time! But that's not the point. When Lenin came to power, he completely got rid of the intelligentsia; he needed a people who would blindly follow him. He also declared Orthodox Christianity, and indeed any religion, illegal. People were supposed to believe only in him and the party. A kind of "cult of personality" emerged. The idea of communism is good, but everything Lenin told the people was a complete lie. There's even a joke:

In the Tretyakov Gallery, there's a new painting – "the people are torturing Lenin to find out which peasants he gave the land to."

However, despite all this, I'm not a hater of the Soviet regime. My attitude towards it is the same as in the cartoon I posted above: at that time, it wasn't bad, it wasn't good, it was NORMAL. And it could have been much better...
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And I'm for a monarchy. We need a Tsar. A Romanov.
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That's true, but Dmitry is unlikely to be a good fit here. I don't remember where he lives now, but he probably hasn't studied the art of governance. His son, however, could very well become the heir to the Russian throne. What was his name again...?
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They are all God's chosen ones.
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The Romanovs fell because they were not considered Russian. The Bolsheviks came to power under nationalistic slogans against the anti-national monarchy. Nicholas II had only 1/64 Russian blood and behaved like a German. And people saw him as a German (especially after Bloody Sunday). No Bolsheviks incited the people to go to the Tsar's palace; it was a provocateur from the Tsar's security service, the priest Gapon, who did it. The Bolsheviks, the real ones (before Khrushchev), sought power not for personal gain or a simple thirst for power. No, it's much scarier than that. And Orthodoxy had outlived itself back in the time of Peter the Great, when he subordinated the church to the state. The Bolsheviks saved the country and gave it the opportunity to live another 70 years
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I agree, but not entirely. The Bolsheviks themselves began to destroy Russia by assassinating Alexander II. And then they "saved" it by promising land and factories. Who knows what heights the Russian Empire would have reached if Alexander had lived for at least another decade...
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I agree, but not in everything. The Bolsheviks themselves began to destroy Russia by blowing up Alexander II. And then they "saved" it by promising land and factories. Who knows what heights the Russian Empire would have reached if Alexander had lived for even one more decade...
What are you talking about, Sasha II was blown up by anarchist terrorists—I don't remember which party—the Bolsheviks didn't even exist at that time. Who knows, maybe there was nothing at all, and history should be treated with respect; our fathers and grandfathers didn't give their lives for nothing, believing in a bright future for us, yet we haven't achieved anything and we bash the rulers of the past. Winning the war, flying into space, creating the hydrogen bomb, winning the overall team place at all Olympics, even football was better, not to mention hockey—these are truly achievements that modern Russia is oh so far from.
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In my opinion, you shouldn't just grab a machine gun and start killing everyone (in real life). You need to figure out who is right and who is wrong.
I know exactly who is right!!!:mad:
Пуля производит удивительные изменения в голове, даже если она попадает в за***цу.
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Regarding the Bolsheviks – sorry, I made a mistake. We would have won the war even without the revolution; in fact, we would have had far fewer casualties because there wouldn't have been the partisan "cannon fodder" – people who died simply because they were forbidden from retreating. And let's not start with the argument that "they played an important role in this way." They were given weapons that were only good for putting cats to sleep, and they died under the fire of professional German machine gunners, completely uselessly! They couldn't even go on the attack to at least die with some purpose. Stalin said, "hold the positions," and that was it. No discussion. No one dared to argue with him, even when the strategic mistakes were obvious. Thank you, Stalin, for our "bright future"! :mad: I feel sick just hearing his name, and that's saying something, considering I'm a Christian! However, arguing about what would have been better now is pointless. 40 million dead cannot be brought back. What's done is done. I know that the Soviet Union was perhaps the strongest sporting nation, but I wouldn't call that compensation for the deaths of tens of millions. Finally, I'll add one "what if." If there had been no revolution, who knows, maybe there wouldn't have been a second world war. After coming to power, the Bolsheviks almost immediately withdrew from the war, saying that "your bourgeois squabbles don't concern us." Left without an ally, Europe was limited to the Treaty of Versailles. If Russia had continued the war, it would have worn out the Germans so much that even Hitler wouldn't have thought about a "second attempt." But, as they say, "if only..."
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