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This resource probably didn't expect you to be respectful.
One more swear word or insult, and I'll ban you personally.
And let the kind-hearted World of Xeen players write letters to the admin asking for mercy.
Nope, no one will plead for his soul anymore. He messed it up.
Ушел с героев, пока пряники)
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Actually, all these auto-ban systems are nonsense. I can agree with a temporary ban, like for preventative measures. But the complete banning of a user should not be decided by an auto-ban system, because the problem might be the moderator's biased attitude towards a particular user.
Personally, for me, the era of AlexR's moderation is an era of inadequate and biased moderation.

But completely spineless moderators who swear like sailors and nothing happens, and double standards are used when one person is allowed to do something, and another is not. This is not good. (Yes, I know that before, it was physically impossible to assign these points due to forum glitches, but now it is!)

There should be very good reasons to ban someone permanently, and a general vote. (See, for example, cheating, proven and undeniable, like that idiot who cheated against Britvachka with 1000 skeletons and mainly Necromancy and still managed to lose :D, or that Jedi with a good avatar with big breasts that half the forum drooled over, the defenders tore their shirts off, it's true that it's unknown whether it was SHE or HE, but it doesn't matter, etc.)

But a temporary ban, yes, that's very useful, show off nicely, get banned, sit in the ban room for a day, two, a week, the terms are negotiable.

But allowing the bias of one moderator and nepotism of another to use the cumulative system is complete nonsense. And the system itself is flawed. I repeat, it should only work for a temporary ban
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Leader1, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Wlk feels quite comfortable with his 400 points, and he doesn't hesitate to openly send, for example, Redwait packing. Knowing that it's unlikely any moderator will take responsibility and ban him for it. But that's wrong. It's not good to use foul language in a public place, and it should be punished. And I can't give his opponents a yellow card – I'm not giving it to him for the same thing. That would be unfair :smile27:. I gave Sam 50 points for direct insults, and recently I gave Oelm 25. I managed to hold back and only give the Samurai 5, because he's already on the verge of a ban. The others didn't behave any worse than Wlk. If I can't punish him, how will I punish them? A "permanent" ban is earned by going through several preventative measures, I think that's logical. Wlk has already deserved it several times. I will award points for insults and foul language; it's part of my duties as a moderator. Try to change the auto-ban system and/or write letters to the Creator.
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It's a bit strange; he occasionally starts writing nonsense in the chat. He says that his keyboard is sticking because of spilled beer, but sometimes I have doubts: is it really because of the beer?

And this passage is also unclear to me...

But I understand him perfectly. Before drawing your own conclusions, talk to those who are in the know.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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...Why is it better to start some kind of harassment campaign against a user?!
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And this passage is also unclear to me...
Probably, there's a reason for it. Apparently, this user earned such treatment in some way.
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I fully support the position taken by Victor.
Personally, I find it disgusting to read what is currently being written on the forum. Someone wrote that moderation on HeroesWorld is too harsh and that there should be more leniency... A question for those who thought so: "Is this better?" I personally miss the good old days when violation points were given only for things like "signature font size larger than 3", and no one even thought about swearing or insults.

For example, Valentin has repeatedly written that he has no respect for this resource and has no desire to be on it. So maybe there's no need to keep him here?

Roma - SAM, is also surprising. Lately, his posts make me question his sanity. Well, if you want to tell Valentin that he is a woman of easy virtue and so on, then please do it via ICQ. What is this desire to play to the gallery? I (and I think most people) am not interested in reading such trash talk!

Regarding permanent auto-bans. They don't ban for good on the first offense, do they? If preventive bans don't work, what can you do? As practice shows, these repentances are temporary and short-lived. I myself am against banning active players, but when people don't appreciate what they have — that's even worse.
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Probably there's a reason for that. It seems this user earned such treatment in some way.

Maybe it would be better to write to me in a private message if there are any personal objections or complaints?

In general, everything related to "indirect" communication between players of the 3rd version only causes confusion and regret...:(
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
Сервер в Discord
Стрим на twitch.tv
Стрим на GG
ЛИДЕР Клана"ХРАНИТЕЛИ НЕБЕСНЫХ ВРАТ" Рейтинг: Латник
Вступление в клан "Хранители небесных врат"
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Maybe it would be better to send me a private message if you have any personal objections or complaints?

In general, everything related to the "indirect" communication between players of version 3 only causes confusion and regret...:(

The main thing is that life is bustling and tournaments are being held :) and the game, by the way, is improving.
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Regarding the tournaments, I won't argue. One can only envy such a large number and variety... :)
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
Сервер в Discord
Стрим на twitch.tv
Стрим на GG
ЛИДЕР Клана"ХРАНИТЕЛИ НЕБЕСНЫХ ВРАТ" Рейтинг: Латник
Вступление в клан "Хранители небесных врат"
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I would like to share my opinion on the issue of punishment for insults. I wrote in the "moderation questions" section about my vision of the issue of punishing users for insults, and I believe that a vote by authorized individuals (in this case, moderators) on the issue of permanently banning individuals whose goal in being on the Resource is not to discuss the game, but to insult users, would be the right approach. That is, in the case of systematic insults (with a record of violations being kept), a vote would be held, and the moderators of the section where the user posts would, with a majority of votes "for" a permanent ban, petition the Creator to permanently ban the user. I do not think it is necessary to assign points. Although the message is deleted, there is always the possibility to return to the deleted message, and when, as I hope, what I wrote above is implemented, it can be included as compromising material against the user to resolve the issue of a permanent ban.
С истиной где-то рядом...





Лето 2010.
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Maybe it would be better to send me a private message if you have any personal objections or complaints?

In general, everything related to the "indirect" communication between players of the 3rd version only causes confusion and regret...:(
Well, the question was asked publicly, and the answer was given publicly:)
Apparently, it's a habit from work: the answer is given in proportion to the question.
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It's not good to swear in public, and there should be consequences for it.
And it's not good in private places either. (Just a thought)
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
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Leader1, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Warlock feels quite comfortable with his 400 points and doesn't hesitate to openly send, for example, Redwait to his doom.
What 400 points do I have? Open your eyes. It's just that I was actually given points earlier for something that they've been forgiving others for almost a year now - otherwise, about 5 people would have caught up with and overtaken me. "Openly" refers to the Battle Dome, which, for your information, is not subject to moderation.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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What 400 points are you talking about? Open your eyes.
Yes, I misread it. Whether it's 199 or 400, there's no difference. I reviewed your comments again. Yes, two of them (50 points) seem unjustified to me. If we gather and count everything that was overlooked for you, it will be at least 400.
Practically openly – this is in the database, which, by the way, is not subject to moderation.
For your information, I don't care what you write in the database to those you offend (including me). I am referring to such seemingly innocent posts like this one:
/topic/at/427532/

You managed to edit your last post just in time
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Yes, I misread it. 199 or 400 – there’s no difference.
The difference is more than twice as much.
Kash
Yes, I misread it. 199 or 400 – there’s no difference. I reviewed your comments again just now. Yes, two of them (50 points) seem unjustified to me. If you gather and calculate everything that was overlooked for you, it will be at least 400.
If you were to award points for posts similar to those for which Mr. Vikku, Oelmu, Semu-56 (maybe I forgot someone) received points, then you could easily get another 200 points. For some time, I tolerated it without responding and waited until finally... But nerves aren't made of steel... I started answering....
Kash
I am talking about such seemingly innocent posts like this one:
/topic/at/427532/
And in my opinion, Redway’s veiled but clearly readable accusation of cheating is a far more serious insult, and what I wrote in response was absolutely correct - such outbursts should only be answered in this way and no other ;)
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