The most useful monster. — General

=Feel999=

15 years ago

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the most useful black dragons, what more is there to say?

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

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Ethereal

15 years ago

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=Feel999=

The most useful black dragons – what more is there to say?

... Especially when they fight phoenixes, which always get the first strike. :smile10: In the case of black dragons, it's also the last strike. :smile08:

The biggest weakness of black dragons is that you can't apply buffs to them. Phoenixes, with their cat-like reflexes and first strike... :smile13: or under the power of the dragon... :smile19: or under everything at once :smile14: will easily defeat a black dragon without much effort. Not to mention the fire immunity of the birds, which reduces half of the damage from the black dragon. :p And who is stronger or more useful of the two? ;)

Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

Музыкальное оформление.

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=Feel999=

15 years ago

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Ethereal

... Especially when they fight Phoenixes, which always get the first strike. :smile10: In the case of the Black Dragon, it's also the last strike. :smile08:

The biggest weakness of the Black Dragon is that you can't add any enhancements to it. A Phoenix, with its cat-like reflexes and first strike... :smile13: or under the power of a Dragon... :smile19: or under everything at once :smile14: will easily defeat the Black Dragon without much effort. Not to mention the fire immunity of the birds, which reduces half of the damage from the Black Dragon. :p And who is stronger or more useful? ;)

This is just about Phoenixes, and I was talking in general. Also, try fighting Phoenixes against a Black Dragon without the first strike; even a half-strength strike from the Dragon is stronger than a full strike from a Phoenix, and it has more health (although Phoenixes have resurrection, but considering that it only works once, the difference isn't that great; overall, the Dragon is stronger).

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

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Ethereal

15 years ago

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Here's the information:

Phoenix
The fastest warrior in the game, with excellent movement range. Its fiery breath can hit several enemies standing next to each other, and a unit of phoenixes can restore up to 20% of its initial strength once per battle. The phoenix's fiery nature makes it immune to fire spells and reduces fire attack damage by half. The phoenix's weakness is that it deals half damage to creatures with fire resistance (ifrit, fire elemental). In a duel with other level 4 units in numbers proportional to the weekly growth (without the influence of artifacts and heroes), it wins against black dragons, hydras, and titans, has an equal chance against devils, and loses to all others.

This was found on http://heroes.ag.ru and has been repeatedly verified by players. ;)

Вдруг, откуда ни возьмись, ниоткуда не взялось.

Музыкальное оформление.

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=Feel999=

15 years ago

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Ethereal

Here's the thing -

This was found on http://heroes.ag.ru and has been repeatedly verified. ;)

The Ethereal is still the fastest demon, but I don't think this statement has much impact overall. I think the only downside of the Ethereal is its vulnerability to spells (they should have allowed positive effects to be applied to it; that would have made it even better). But in general, who said that only these creatures will fight in battle? And even if it sends the Phoenix and Dragon forward, the Dragon will be more effective in this case (more health, stronger defense). Yes, in this topic, we are determining the best fighter, the one most adaptable to many units, and not just a few (Ethereals are more adaptable to many fighters).
By the way, only a newbie would take magical dragons or dragongolems against Chaos (Titans have chaos resistance).

Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)

Смерть попсы

15 years ago

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I think the usefulness of a monster is generally determined by the playstyle of the person behind the computer. If a player is incompetent, giving them a genie or a griffin won't make them play any better.

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CTPAHHuK

15 years ago

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It's difficult to get a lot of value from a griffin, even for a good player.

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hre 77

15 years ago

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...Especially when they fight Phoenixes, which always get the first strike. In the case of the Black Dragons, it's also the last strike.

The biggest weakness of the Black Dragons is that you can't add any enhancements to them. A Phoenix, with its cat-like reflexes and first strike... or under the effect of a Dragon's Strength spell... or under the effect of everything at once, will easily defeat a Black Dragon without much effort. Not to mention the fire immunity of the birds, which reduces half of the damage dealt by the Black Dragons. And who is stronger or more useful of the two?
I absolutely agree.
The fact that they are immune to magic in some cases is not a plus, but a minus.

Alexsander13

15 years ago

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not in some cases, but in all cases, they have complete immunity. Critical Damage cannot be healed or buffed, but when playing as Chaos, they don't really focus on buffs, but rather on curses and direct damage spells. And Critical Damage is a very strong and good unit, no matter what you say.

Тебя оскорбили - забудь...тебя унизили - прости...тебя ударили - вспомни всё и убей!!!
:smile10: :smile17: :smile19:

Армия* - это люди, собранные в одном месте с единственной целью: исправлять ошибки дипломатов.

Д. Дэниелз

Werwolf666

15 years ago

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I like the Coastkeepers the most, especially with their Panic spell... Plus, they have very high ranged defense.

dnaop-wr

15 years ago

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I understand that we are talking about the most *useful* monster, not the strongest one. Of course, the usefulness of a monster depends on the situation, but a djinn provides the greatest benefit for the money invested, with the right tactics.