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Well, enjoy it until the second coming :D

No offense.
He hasn't fallen in battle yet.... :D
But the idea itself is very good....
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Now, there's a discussion about the problem of the relationship between predestination and free will. I already wrote in one post that free will is one of the key concepts for Christianity; it is also the justification for the existence of evil. According to Christian doctrine, a person in any situation has the right to choose - to choose good or evil. This does not mean that there are only two ways of behaving in any situation! And there may be some intermediate options, more or less evil, more or less good. And a person HIMSELF decides whether to act kindly or maliciously; he decides in accordance with his ideas about good and evil, and he decides this issue even when he is not consciously thinking about it. Christian moral norms are only the most general recommendations for behavior; obviously, it is impossible to give a list of commandments for each specific situation!
Now, regarding predestination, God's will, etc. Here, the matter is understood as follows: God, when creating the world, created all possible scenarios for its development - that is, Adam could violate the prohibition, and he could not violate it. Then everything would be different:) And this idea - he could do it, or he could not, and from this come different results - is also very important. God is something that does not belong to the world and is not constrained by either space or time; being outside of time, he sees all possible paths of development. And a person's life - in this context - is a very long sequence of situations. A person finds himself in situation A; there are several ways out of it, and depending on which path he chooses, he will be presented with one of the possible next situations. In other words, a person does not depend on what situations will be presented to him (that is, on the one hand, he depends on it, since he determines this by his actions, and on the other hand, he does not, since the person himself often cannot even remotely imagine what will happen to him tomorrow; that is, he can imagine it: D, but it is unlikely that he will guess). But it depends on how these situations will be resolved.
That's how it is:)
Man proposes, and God disposes. :
SKIF;41305
In my opinion, the most beautiful embodiment of paradise is Valhalla, where valiant warriors, even after death, stand guard over the righteous cause. They feast while waiting for Ragnarok...
Personally, there is no better paradise for me.
So, your paradise (if you get into it) will be like that. It's very simple.
Бог есть любовь
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And it is for this reason that trials are sent to a person—so that their choice may be more conscious. They can overcome them, in which case they are better off; or they may fail and end up with a sort of "retake" ;); only retaking here is usually harder than passing the first time. That is why I believe that trials and the evil of suffering are necessary (and on this point, I completely agree with AlexeyPunk), and since God—as I believe :)—is benevolent, He does not send a person trials that they could not overcome (I'm with you, Nowizard! :D).
To use a loose metaphor, God throws a brick at the person :D, and the person dodges. God could shoot from a sling, but He doesn't do it if He knows for sure that the person won't dodge. And this must be done because a person who has closed themselves off and retreated from the world opens themselves up to dark thoughts and becomes withdrawn.
I have diminished God a bit here :(, but I hope He will forgive me :)
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And to make this choice more conscious, trials are sent to people. They can overcome them – which is better for them; they may not overcome them – and end up in a kind of "retake"; only retaking here is usually more difficult than passing the first time. Therefore, I believe that trials and evil suffering are necessary (and here I completely agree with AlexeyPunk) and, since God – as I believe – is good, he does not send people trials that they cannot overcome (I'm with you, Nowizard!:D).
If we use a free metaphor, God throws a brick at a person:D, and the person dodges. God might even shoot with a slingshot, but he doesn't do it if he knows for sure that the person won't dodge. And this is necessary because a person who closes himself off and withdraws from the world becomes open to dark thoughts and becomes isolated.
I have somewhat diminished God here:(, but I hope he will forgive me:)
Have you considered that God, having created the universe, has somewhat distanced himself and does not interfere in our lives until the moment of the Last Judgment, and then... well, you understand...
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Slightly off-topic, but still...

Did you know that the famous quote from the Bible: "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" is the largest typo in the world. Someone made a huge mistake and, during translation, missed a letter in the word CARMEL (rope) and got CAMEL - camel. So, the correct version is: "It is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"

* carmel - rope, from the word Carmelite (monks who wear a rope instead of a belt).
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Well, Kyle, there's a viewpoint that God only created the world and then stopped interfering in its affairs. It's called deism. It was very popular during the Enlightenment. But personally, I don't quite believe in it.

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Interestingly, Inquisitor, what language do you think the Bible was translated from? Definitely not English:D, and I highly doubt it was Latin – more likely Greek. There, as you know, the letters and words are different. If you were joking, I apologize for taking your comment so seriously.
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Well, Kyle, there's a viewpoint that God only created the world and then no longer interferes in its affairs. It's called deism. It was very popular during the Enlightenment. But personally, I don't quite believe in it.
Exactly... I remember we discussed it...
And why don't you believe it? In my opinion, it fits very well... if you judge by the history of mankind...
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I don't know. But, you see, have you ever tried praying? Really praying, with feeling – I mean not just with strong emotions, but with a special kind of religious feeling? Well, I've tried it. And, you know, not only does it make you feel better, but often what you ask for comes true. Maybe it's too personal an experience, but I often mention it when I talk about how God influences our lives. And also, you know, often, when you look back on a series of events, you get this feeling – "How beautifully (or harmoniously, or whatever) everything turned out!" Of course, it doesn't prove anything, but it makes you think that someone is arranging all of this.
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Yes, Inquisitor, you are probably right. It seems you understand what I mean.
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Well, go ahead and party until the second coming :D I'd like to see how you'll wave your two-handed sword around afterward.
Time, unlike you ;) (no offense), doesn't stand still, so my AK-74 would take down quite a few demons!:D
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Well, if you help me smuggle a T-90 through the gates of paradise... then victory will be ours!!! ;)
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Interesting thoughts are being discussed on the forum. Have you ever heard of the Ophite sect (worshippers of the serpent)? They read the Bible and concluded that God wanted people to remain in ignorance. And only a kind serpent brought knowledge to people, for which he suffered at the hands of God. So, who is good and who is evil here?
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