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As a newbie, can I ask a simple question? I have Heroes of Might and Magic III "In the Wake of Gods". Can I use this version?
Or should I find "The Shadow of Death" and apply the patches mentioned on the website? There was also some talk about a WOG patch.
I'm still not very familiar with this.
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As a beginner, can I ask a simple question? I have Heroes of Might and Magic III "In the Wake of Gods," can I use this version?
Or should I find Shadow of Death and apply the patches mentioned on the website? There was also talk about some WOG patch.
I'm still not very familiar with this.

For a simpler and faster setup, you need Heroes 3 Shadow of Death (SoD 3.2), and that's all.
Later, it's better to install TE. TE is installed on WoG. Do you have the latest version of WoGa (3.58)?

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Yes, WoG 3.58f. All that's left is to install TE. I didn't quite understand; the rules say you need to download a 30MB archive, but on this site, I only found "Full Russian version of TE 1.03f" (845KB) at the URL http://heroesv.net.ru/up_files/hmm/wog/te/TE1.03f_rus_heroesV.zip
Is that enough? If not, please provide a direct link to what is needed.
Although, the quests work on WoG 3.58f.
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I'm ashamed, but I don't know how to open a portal! :(
What's the deal.

Which portal are you talking about?
If it's about the spell, then in the game on SoD, to get to any free town, you need advanced earth magic and wisdom level 4 to learn the spell itself. On TE, instead of earth magic, you need fire magic.
If it's a portal in Inferno castles, then they need to be built in several such castles, otherwise they are useless.
If it's a summoning portal in the Dungeon, then it allows you to hire creatures if there are external dwellings. If there aren't any, then it doesn't work at all!

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Yes, WoG 3.58f. All that remains is to install TE. I didn't quite understand, the rules say that you need to download a 30 MB archive, but on this site I only found "Full Russian version of TE 1.03f" (845KB) at the URL http://heroesv.net.ru/up_files/hmm/wog/te/TE1.03f_rus_heroesV.zip
Is this enough? If not, please provide a direct link to what is needed.
Although the quests work even on WoG 3.58f.
Thank you very much for your answers.

To participate, you need to read the rules:
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In addition, playing on WoGe is not allowed by the rules; you need either SoD 3.2 or TE 1.03p. The game version has been slightly updated compared to TE 1.03f, and you need to install the update.
Today it's best to start with the clan tournament, but you can also play any quest from the arena tournament. Or you can do everything at once!!!
Good luck!
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Natasha, please take a look at post #177. Sincerely, Prorock.

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I watched your battle against the respected Pred. And I noticed one inconsistency: How did you (natasha) manage to have 121 Titans?
Even if you build Titans in 2 cities on the first day (with upgraded castles) + 2 Giant recruiters, and + a Legionnaire Statue in your inventory, you would only have around 110 Titans, but you have 121!
How is that possible? Can anyone explain?

It's easy – 3 units each from the summoning portals in the Dungeons every week, at least starting from the third week, and there could also have been
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Easy - 3 creatures each in the summoning portals in Dungeons every week, at least starting from the third week, and there could also have been a Grail that increases growth in one of the castles. You could have gathered as many as 130 there!

But I simulated a situation where she has everything on hand on THE FIRST DAY!!!
(except the Grail and portals)
If you think about it, the Grail along with the statue can be obtained at the beginning of the 2nd month, portals at best at the end of the 1st.
During the second month she can get 64-85 Titans (but 65 is a dream, largely unattainable!)
And during the first month she will get diddly squat, you can churn out no more than 25!
How is that possible?
After all, she wasn't only working on Titans!
She needs to:
1. Find the Grail
2. Assemble the Legion statue
3. Capture Rampart, sell all the crap and save money
4. Repel the Barbarian invasion
5. Capture Dungeon and Inferno in time.

There are only 8 heroes! How?
In the first month I dreamed of just one Legion statue, and I assembled it in record time on week 1 day 4-7! Did she do it earlier?

Forgive me for so many questions, but I'm terribly curious.:):)

Dear nprf, maybe let natasha herself, upon her return, enlighten us about her strategic plans!? That would be the surest way to get this information.

But thank you anyway for responding to my question!:)

P.S. In no way do I want to accuse you of unfair play. My subconscious tells me this IS POSSIBLE, and I simply have a perfectly logical question: HOW?
I think this information will be important not only for me, and it might help other participants uncover the essence of the mystery and help them in future tournaments!

Thank you in advance.:)

Best regards,
Prorock.

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I simulated the situation where she has everything in her hands on the FIRST DAY!!!
(except for the Grail and portals)
If you look at it that way, the Grail and the statue can be obtained at the beginning of the 2nd month, and the portals, at best, at the end of the 1st.
In the second month, she can get 64-85 Titans (but 65 is a dream, largely unattainable!)
And in the first month, she will get a few, maybe a little more than 25!
How is this possible?
After all, she wasn't just dealing with Titans!
It is necessary to:
1. Search for the Grail
2. Collect the Legionnaire
3. Capture Rampart, sell all the junk, and save money
4. Repel the Barbarian invasion
5. Manage to capture the Dungeon and Inferno in time.

There are only 8 heroes! How?
I dreamed of one Legionnaire statue for the first month, and I assembled it in record time on 1-4-7! Did she do it earlier?

Forgive me for so many questions, but I am very interested.:):)

Dear nprf, maybe let natasha, upon her arrival, tell us about her strategic plans herself!? This will be the most reliable way to get this information.

But still, thank you for responding to my question!:)

P.S. I definitely do NOT want to involve you in unfair play. My subconscious tells me that it is POSSIBLE, and I simply have a quite logical question: HOW?
I think this information will be important not only for me, and it may help other participants to reveal the essence of the mystery and help them in future tournaments!

Thank you in advance.:)

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Well, I don't know about others, but I had all three dungeons by the last day of the second week! I didn't start digging for the Grail, but it was realistic by the end of the first month. There are also such interesting objects - refuges, theoretically, you could get something good there starting from the second week. I assembled the statue on 1-3-7. It would be interesting to see how to quickly take Inferno at the start for Tower, but Natasha didn't manage to do it very quickly. And her entire tactic would be interesting in a game on SoD. That is, Orrin and liches!!! But Orrin and demons don't work. Barbarians generally fall first at the start for Tower, it just takes a long time to get to Rampart.
And record time for the statue is 1-2-7, but why such records, it is better to subdue the computers in a timely manner.
And in general, the number of archangels and titans, plus or minus 10, does not really affect anything, other things are more important here. I, for example, starting for Tower in the first week, would not even go to take the dwellings of giants!

But I am interested in something else. How to defeat 7000 golems in the third round without the Ring of Magic? I just don't have enough magic to slow them down! Has anyone managed to do it???
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Well, I don't know about others, but I had all three dungeons cleared by the end of the second week! I didn't bother digging for the Grail, but it was definitely possible by the end of the first month. There are also some interesting objects – refuges; theoretically, you could get something good from them starting from the second week. I assembled the statue on days 1, 3, and 7. It would be interesting to see how to quickly take Inferno when starting as Tower, but Natasha didn't manage to do it quickly. And her entire tactic would be interesting in a game on SoD. That is, Orrin and liches!!! But Orrin and demons don't work. Barbarians are generally the first to fall when starting as Tower; they just take a long time to reach the rampart.
And the record time for the statue is 1-2-7, but what's the point of such records? It's better to subdue the computer players in a timely manner.
And in general, the number of archangels and titans, plus or minus 10, doesn't really affect anything; other things are more important. For example, when starting as Tower, I wouldn't even go for the giant dwellings in the first week!

But I'm more interested in something else. How do you defeat 7000 golems in the third round without the Ring of Magic? I just don't have enough magic to slow them down! Has anyone managed to do it???

All dungeons should be taken by day 1-2-7 – that's a given! I assembled the statue on days 1, 4, and 2. I didn't rush it. Also, by day 1-2-7, I had pit lords with castles built! That was more important. But the price was high: I lost 3 angels on the Tower and 2 in the dungeon.
The general principle for clearing the map is to only clear it with angels!

I'm also more interested in the third round. It doesn't work; I really run out of mana. Is it only possible with intelligence now!?
And I also can't get the golems to join a single unit on TE. It's easy on SoD, but not on TE! What's going on???
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I'm also more interested in the third turn. It doesn't work; mana really runs out. Is it really only with intelligence now!?
And I also can't get the golems to join one unit on TE. It's easy on SoD, but not on TE! What's going on???

That's the problem, and it's the same on SoD! You just have to fight them a little differently!
And I want to learn Armageddon!!! I wonder, if you run away from a battle, can you still learn it, or do you have to win the battle? Something isn't working.
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That's the problem, and it's the same in SoD! You have to fight them a little differently!
And I want to learn Armageddon!!! I wonder, if you flee from a battle, can you learn it, or do you have to win the battle? Something isn't working.

Interesting question! I can't learn anything when I flee! Maybe it's just not possible.
And what do you mean by "differently"? The path is still the same - devils and hydras!

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Interesting point. One hero stands on his own territory, the other on his, and what will happen in the arena?
+ in the tournament, there should be at least one round where magic really matters! :) :)


It's simple. The heroes attack each other in turn. That is, each stands in defense on his own territory (as in the save), and attacks on the territory chosen by the opponent.

I don't know what will ultimately be decisive in the arena, but it seems that without a huge amount of mana, it's impossible to defeat the golems. And that's 5-6 levels lost for the warrior! And minus Armageddon!!! But can a mage defeat the golems???
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Explain, what's the point of killing them? When I killed them using codes, I didn't get anything! Maybe it's because I didn't have enough wisdom!? Then, explain why you are so obsessed with Armageddon?

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Explain why they should be taken down?
When I took them down using codes, I didn't get anything!
Maybe it's because I didn't have enough wisdom!?

Then explain why you are chasing Armageddon so hard?

Offline is a tournament for maximalists! Everything that moves must be killed, everything on the map taken, etc. The time limit of the maps is always set so that the best players can achieve this.
The question "why" is essentially rhetorical. Whoever manages to do it will get 4-5 levels of experience for their main hero. Whether this is necessary or not depends on the choice of the main hero!
Armageddon is a good spell. Especially against water elementals! Again, whether it's needed or not is a matter of taste.
But to learn it, you need more than just wisdom—you need what Zingel pointed out first! ;)
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Explain why they need to be killed?
When I killed them with cheats, I got nothing!
Maybe it's because I didn't have Wisdom!?

Then explain why you're all so eager for Armageddon?

nprf explained a bit, but apparently didn't want to go into the nuances. Armageddon is the best way to take down Azure Dragons without using the main hero and a serious army for the job!
And to get Armageddon, you need Wisdom — it's a level 4 spell — and Eagle Eye — it's a level 4 spell!!! ;)
Also, the experience from the battle can become very important. The map allowed, with scouting, to boost a hero to level 40 without visiting trees! Just calculate the bonus for Crag Hack or Malekith (whichever you prefer!) and it will be clear that the difference in troop numbers will be offset by the stats.
Of course, all this is for those who managed to develop quickly, visit everything, etc.
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I have a principle: "destroy everything that moves and collect everything that can be seen." But I don't like playing for speed. With tournaments, you have to get used to it! I calculated that it would not be beneficial FOR ME to attack this unfortunate creature. One thing that makes me happy is that in this round, I made more useful moves than in the previous one.

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