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Will the results be posted on this thread or separately?
Prorock
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There are more details about the Walkthroughs here, although it's not quite the map that can be described in detail.
The only comment regarding how to breed so many demons: On TE, we upgrade Nimue to level 7 and collect the Legion Statue. As a result, having 150 or more Pit Lords by the last week, we travel through the portal across Nagabanks. The Nags kill unnecessary creatures. And the Pit Lords, using Clone, raise demons. In the end, PALADIN has over 5000 of them, I have fewer, but there are twice as many skeletons – 8000.
And the arena turned out to be boring. Both Marius have identical artifacts and parameters with absolutely equal forces: archers, crusaders, shooters, fanatics, spearmen. That’s why it was a draw because playing became uninteresting.
And natasha - Pred has very interesting ideas. But Moandar is too strong, and Natasha clearly didn't have enough money.
And one more point. On this map, my main hero did not visit any objects that give bonuses to magic power and knowledge!
Zingel
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The only comment on how to breed so many demons. In TE, we upgrade Nimues to level 7, collect the Legion Statue. As a result, having 150 or more Pit Lords in the last week, we travel through the portal across the Nagabanks. The Nagas kill unnecessary creatures. And the Pit Lords, using Clone, raise demons. The result is that the PALADIN has over 5000, I have fewer, but there are twice as many skeletons - 8000.
And so, the arena turned out to be boring. Both have Marius with the same artifacts and parameters, with absolutely equal forces: archers, centaurs, shooters, fanatics, spearmen. That's why it's a draw, because it became uninteresting to play.
And natasha - Pred has very interesting ideas. But Moandor is too strong, and Natasha clearly didn't have enough money.
And one more point. On this map, my main hero did not visit any objects that give a bonus to magic and knowledge power!
I have a few questions: why centaurs? Moandor is a specialist in vampires. Where did the vampires come from here?
Prorock
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I took a look at the arena and was surprised...
I realized that Pred focused on Liches.
Nprf and Paladin focused on Heroes (AND THE ARMIES ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR!!!). Truly nose to nose, both in terms of army and stats.
It occurred to me:
I spent all my strength building units and decided to forget about the heroes.
They did the opposite!
And in the end, it turned out that I couldn't buy what I had been building! Meanwhile, by leveling up their Hero, they fully utilized him on the Arena.
Potentially, my army should be 30% larger.
The army I assembled is about 5 times stronger than those in 2nd and 3rd place, but their Heroes are about 20 times more solid!
THERE IS ONLY ONE CONCLUSION: in this situation, one should have leveled up the Hero, not the army.
I have only one question for NPRF: where did you get your bows?
I realized that Pred focused on Liches.
Nprf and Paladin focused on Heroes (AND THE ARMIES ARE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR!!!). Truly nose to nose, both in terms of army and stats.
It occurred to me:
I spent all my strength building units and decided to forget about the heroes.
They did the opposite!
And in the end, it turned out that I couldn't buy what I had been building! Meanwhile, by leveling up their Hero, they fully utilized him on the Arena.
Potentially, my army should be 30% larger.
The army I assembled is about 5 times stronger than those in 2nd and 3rd place, but their Heroes are about 20 times more solid!
THERE IS ONLY ONE CONCLUSION: in this situation, one should have leveled up the Hero, not the army.
I have only one question for NPRF: where did you get your bows?
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In the second round, I missed a lot, including raising demons. Can someone explain in detail how to raise them correctly to achieve the best possible result?
Prorock
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I am also interested in this exact question!
Mr. Emer-Gen beat me by a few minutes, for which he gets respect!:)
Only if possible — please start from the beginning.
And the beginning is:
as far as I know, Pit Friend raises demons that disappear after the battle! At least in classic 3, it's like that, or am I wrong???
And in WoG, as I imagine, they decided to keep this bonus even after the battle, right?
I want someone to shed light on this issue from the very beginning PLEASE!
Thank you in advance!
Respectfully,
Prorock.
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I understand. We were playing different games. :)
I have a few questions: why centaurs? Moandor is a specialist in vampires. Where did the vampires come from here?
Moandor is a specialist in liches. Vampires are for Wokial!
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I looked at the arena and was surprised...
I realized that Pred focused on Liches.
Nprf and Paladin focused on Heroes (AND THE ARMIES ARE REMARKABLY SIMILAR!!!). Really head-to-head, both in terms of the army and the parameters.
I thought about it, and indeed:
I spent all my resources on building units, and forgot about the heroes.
They did the opposite!
And in the end, I couldn't buy what I was building! And they, by developing their Hero, fully realized him in the Arena.
Potentially, my army should be 30% larger.
The army I assembled is 5 times stronger than the armies in 2nd and 3rd place, but their Heroes are 20 times better!
CONCLUSION: in this situation, it was necessary to develop the Hero, not the army.
I only have one question for NPRF: where did you get your bows?
I don't understand, where is our arena? Natasha didn't post it. Probably the bows are from the arenas of previous rounds! In this save, Elwind's bow and the string are not there!
It was necessary to build no more than 2 types of 7th level troops, that's a fact, and it was also necessary to bypass all the attack and defense upgrades.
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In the second round, I missed a lot, including raising demons. Can someone explain to me in detail how to raise them correctly, achieving the maximum result?
As far as I remember, from the third week, their increase was 26 per week due to the development of Nimues in the game on TE.
By the end of the game, their number approached 200. This means they raised each one by 37 hit points. Exactly 37, not 35!!! Due to two rings equipped.
Raising demons is magic, and only a hero with a spellbook can keep the demons, it seems. I don't remember if wisdom is needed...
And the technology for raising them: flying around nagabanks. The nagas destroy the meat, the pitlord clone raises the demons.
I remember that in SoD, about 3000 of them were raised. Now a little more!
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I took a look at the arena and was surprised...
I realized that Pred focused on Liches.
Nprf and Paladin focused on Heroes (AND THERE IS A STRIKING SIMILARITY IN THE ARMIES!!!). They were really head-to-head, both in terms of army composition and stats.
I thought about it, and it's true:
I poured all my resources into building units, and I forgot about the Heroes.
They did the opposite!
And in the end, I couldn't buy what I was building! And they, by developing their Hero, fully utilized him in the Arena.
Potentially, my army should have been 30% larger.
The army I assembled is 5 times stronger than the armies of 2nd and 3rd place, but their Heroes are 20 times better!
THE CONCLUSION IS ONE: in this situation, it was necessary to develop the Hero, not the army.
I only have one question for NPRF: where did you get your bows?
Natasha didn't post our arena because it wasn't interesting! There really isn't much to see. And the armies and hero stats will soon be in a summary table. Elwind's bow was on the map, the bowstring too. I don't remember if there was a golden bow, I didn't have it in the arena in the end. The archers are weak - there's no need for them. You can get artifacts on TE through the Artificer class.
Another point that PALADIN didn't mention. Everywhere possible, build up your finances, hire as many heroes as possible who give gold and resources, and every week after building the treasury, sell resources for gold (after building the necessary number of markets!), and at the end of the game, take out a loan from the bank!
Wisdom is not needed to raise demons, raising is considered a 2nd-level spell.
P.S. I corrected a typo...
Zingel
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I'm embarrassed, but I don't know how to open the portal! :(
What's going on.
What's going on.
Prorock
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Is summoning demons magic?
And if it is magic, what element does it belong to? Which spellbook is needed? Fire?
Was it made as a separate magic in WoG?
If YES, then why are Pit Lords needed?
Sorry for asking - I just have these questions about WoG, I played it when everything was just starting...
Please explain!
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Is raising demons a magic spell?
And if it is magic, what element does it belong to? Which book is needed? Fire?
Did they make it as a separate magic in WoGE?
If YES, then why are Pit Lords needed?
Sorry for asking - it's just that there are so many complications with this WoG, I played it only when everything was first starting...
Please explain!
It was the same in SoD. I'm not even sure a book is needed. Maybe it works without one. Or the hero simply has the book, nothing more!
This isn't WoG!!! And not TE. But there are its own peculiarities. For example, the sphere of banning (that red ball) can prevent Pit Lords from raising demons and Archangels from resurrecting!
And I also played WoG once. And I stopped playing after I saw that my commander killed 3 Azure Dragons instantly with a single glance.
It's a good thing none of that is in TE!!!
Prorock
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The same thing happened in SoD. I'm not even sure if the book is needed. Maybe it is. But the book is just for the hero, nothing more!
This is not WoG!!! And not TE. But it has its own features. For example, the Sphere of Inhibition (a red orb) can prevent Pit Lords from summoning demons, and Archangels from resurrecting!
And I also played WoG once. And I stopped playing after I saw that my commander killed 3 Azure Dragons with just a glance.
It's good that there is none of this in TE!!!
I understand everything now!
Then the book is not needed at all, why write such nonsense?
I already understand what the Sphere of Inhibition is and what it blocks. I have a question: will the same number of demons be summoned from 1 Imp and from 30 Imps? Because it's the same, or how?
During the TE game, I had 2 questions:
1. As you said, it is easy to hire the hero you need (I heard something like you can choose from 4 right away, or something like that...?)?
2. And is it true that in TE, Portal magic was made Fire magic, WHY? WHAT DID IT DO TO DESERVE THIS?:(:(:(
And one more question about the tournament, but it still belongs to Natasha.
To natasha
I watched your battle with the respected Pred. And I noticed one inconsistency: How did you (natasha) get 121 Titans?
Even if you have Titans built in 2 cities on the first day (with upgraded castles) + 2 Giant recruiters and + a Legionnaire Statue in your pocket, you will have about 110 Titans, but you have 121!
How is this possible? Can anyone explain?
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Hello, I just found out about your portal today, and I just finished playing Heroes of Might and Magic V. I probably missed the chance to participate. Can you tell me when the next tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic III or V will be?
Ta Kotoraya...
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Right now, the Clans Tournament for 3v3 battles has just started: /topic/1136/. Single players can also participate. So give it a try!
P.S. And welcome aboard!
P.S. And welcome aboard!
Prorock
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Hello, I just found out about your portal today, and I just finished playing Heroes of Might and Magic V. I probably missed the chance to participate. Can you tell me when the next tournament for Heroes 3 or Heroes 5 will be?
Fortunately, more and more tournaments are being organized – I'm already torn between them. You can still participate in tournaments for Heroes 1, 3, or 4!
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