[TYPE: TOURNAMENT] Tazar vs Bron — Tournament History online

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9/15/2010 3:44 PM UTC #79

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Oelm

Yes, that's what makes Wistan special. He breaks the Imixgnome on level 1 and the Maxicon on level 2. :smile02:

I used Bron to break the Maxignome on level 113; the screenshots are posted in the Heroes tournament group on VKontakte.

Игра без спонсора ни о чем.Ушел из Героев.

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9/15/2010 3:45 PM UTC #80

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Hermit

More about Gervulf. According to the formula, ballista damage depends only on attack. What if Gervulf, right on the first day, using one-time bonuses and seizing artifacts, raises his attack to 4? Then he'll be just like Gurnison.

And if he also raises his defense, he'll become like Tazar. If he gets a log and takes boots and gloves, he'll be like Kyrr. And when he manages to shake out a hundred ducks, takes the Dragon Utopia with a kettle, Sword of Justice, +4 shield, and a blue cap, he'll become one seriously cool guy :D . But at the start, his ballista hits for 2-3 while Gurny's hits for 10-15. And Gurny has twice the chance to get attack points with every level-up compared to Gervulf.

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9/15/2010 3:50 PM UTC #81

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And if he also increases his defense, he'll become like Tazar. If he gets the Log and the boots and gloves, he'll be like Kirr. And when he gathers a hundred ducks, takes the Utopian artifact, the Teapot, the Sword of Justice, a +4 shield, and a blue hat, he'll become a really cool guy :D. But at the start, his ballista deals 2-3 damage, while Gurney's deals 10-15. And Gurney has twice the chance to gain attack points with each level up compared to Gervulf.

Damn, you guys are saying that starting with Gervulf makes him an awesome character :smile51:

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9/15/2010 5:33 PM UTC #82

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In the heat of the argument, no one noticed the most important thing: there's still Korvak with a level 112 snake, and he's destroying everything :smile08:

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9/15/2010 5:38 PM UTC #83

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Yes, even without an upgrade, they have a speed of 10, almost 11. It's a pity that in the Shahkti vs. Gunnar tournament, they didn't let me play with Lorelei...

Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!

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9/15/2010 5:45 PM UTC #84

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Hermit

He already has a speed of 10, almost 11, even without an upgrade. It's a pity they didn't let him play as Lorelei in the Shahkti vs. Gunnar tournament...

Lorelei on the SoD is even better than Gervulf.

P.S.: The upgrade for Corbak is done to strengthen the snakes. :)

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9/15/2010 5:58 PM UTC #85

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If he finds the spirit to persevere, even a fully developed Dwarf can take on Harpies with level 1 units, although it will take as long as Gervulf taking on a crowd of Golems with a ballista... I played as Gunar there, but when Lorelei appeared on the first map, I immediately made her the main hero. I really wanted to play as her, not Gunar, it's a shame that the game didn't allow it :(

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If he finds the spirit to persevere, even a fully developed Dwarf can take on Harpies with level 1 units, although it will take as long as Gervulf taking on a crowd of Golems with a ballista... I played as Gunar there, but when Lorelei appeared on the first map, I immediately made her the main hero.

And once, because she appeared on map 111, I played against a double opponent with 8mm6.

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I don't understand why anyone considers her such a weak hero without any justification...

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9/15/2010 6:02 PM UTC #86

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Hermit

I don't understand why anyone considers her such a weak hero...

Because in the "Horn of the Abyss" expansion, you'll face one stack of harpies, and your second hero won't have any harpies, and harpies won't be built. How are you supposed to play? And any hero, not just Lorelei, can take out a maxed-out archmage with just one harpy.

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9/15/2010 6:03 PM UTC #87

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By the way, I once tested with Loya using 40 Harpies and Oil killing my favorite GO on SMaK 22 Hydras) on the first week

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9/15/2010 6:05 PM UTC #88

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Just like those who played as the Dungeon faction, when they are given one stack of Troglodytes (and the second hero can be Lorelei, also with one stack), and Harpies are also not built... In this situation, in my opinion, it's better to have 1 stack of Harpies with Lorelei than one stack of Troglodytes with the Dungeon hero...

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9/15/2010 6:24 PM UTC #89

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Hermit

Just like those who played as Shakti, when they are given one stack of Troglodytes (and the second hero could be Lorelei also with one stack) and the Harpies won't be built either... In such a situation, IMHO 1 stack of Harpies with Lora is better than one stack of Troglodytes with Shakti...

Now compare the probabilities of the event I mentioned and the one you mentioned :D Or better yet, start 100 or even 1000 times in SoD and count how many Harpies there will be on day 111? And that's not even mentioning that their upgrade might be delayed until day 112... Add to that the secondary skills that Lora has and don't ask stupid questions anymore. And if you still have questions, answer this one: How do you take an external dwelling of dragons with Lorelei? Or does it all come down to a max Dwarf Cottage? :D (which, by the way, you'll hardly get with morale)

P.S.: In WT, of course, it's more pleasant to play as Lorelei. Many Harpies and scouting is very fitting. The ability to strike and not return back is very helpful, i.e., you can use Harpies like butterflies :) But in SoD, WHERE TO????

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9/15/2010 6:32 PM UTC #90

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And why does everything always come down to the Dragon Hoard? I agree that the Shaft is better for the Hoard, and the minimum Conservatory should also be given to them, but there are many cases where Lorelei is better than the Shaft.

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9/15/2010 6:35 PM UTC #91

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Piguedram is the best.

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9/15/2010 6:35 PM UTC #92

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Dirty_Player

And if questions remain, then answer this one: How do you take an external dwelling of dragons as Lorelei? Or does it all come down to the max-level Dwarf Cottage? :D (which, by the way, is hard to take with morale)

And how do you take it as Gunnar??? And Gunnar actually won in this tournament, by the way...

Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!