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Record a victory for Vistan. :)
On the topic: not so long ago, in some tournament game on a small map, my Vistan (level 7, 8, without a book, expert in shooting and armor) at the beginning of the second week, without ambushes, with his natural growth (bulls, ducks in the castle) and 1 angel, without artifacts, defeated Consul Max on the swamp map. Losses: bulls, gnolls, 2 ducks, and 2 flies. Bron with his tank wouldn't even have ventured there.
I wasn't particularly concerned about choosing a starting hero, but after that incident, I had no doubts at all, because green lizardmen are a force!
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Yes, that’s what makes Wistan special. He breaks the Imixgnome on level 1 and the Maxicon on level 2. :smile02: -For the TE-light, the growth rate of lizards for the swamp castle needs to be adjusted; by default, it’s set to 8 instead of 9. I have a corrected file at home; I can upload it if needed. -Since no start date has been specified, please consider me (confirmation before the start). My wish is to play on 8mm as something – Brogha. On CM, I haven’t decided yet (Tazar rules there)).
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Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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-For TE-light, the growth rate of lizards for the swamp castle needs to be adjusted; by default, it's set to 8 instead of 9. I have a corrected file at home; I can upload it if needed.
I think they already fixed it for the tournament in Kyiv.
Suggestion: I'd like to play on 8mm as something-Brogkh. For CM, I haven't decided yet (Tazar is dominant there)).
Taz and Brogkh are different teams; you need to sign up for just one.
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I'll sign up as a tank, but I might not be able to play much in October.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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I'll sign up as a tank, but I might not be able to play much in October.
Well, that means a direct path to becoming a captain ;)

numOne
Sign me up for Wistan.:)
On the topic: not so long ago, in some tournament game on a small map, my Wistan (level 7, 8, no book, expert in shooting and armor) at the beginning of the second week, without any ambushes, with his native creatures (bulls, ducks in the citadel) and 1 angel, without any artifacts, defeated Consul on the swamp. Losses: bulls, gnolls, 2 ducks, and 2 flies. Bron with his army wouldn't have even dared to go there.
I wasn't particularly worried about choosing a starting hero, but after that, I had no doubts at all, because the Lizardmen are powerful!
Neela, 4 levels: 4-2-6-30, advanced armor, basic earth, basic magic, useful spells: shield, bless, healing. The army is what's in the screenshot, and I have 19 crocodiles left (there was an ambush, the vipers didn't appear due to the sawmill blocking).
It happened completely by chance; I just generated Heroes of Might and Magic 6 in light mode for Bron to refresh the nuances, bought an army for 124, and went into Consul without checking, just to see what would happen.
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Neela level 4: 4-2-6-30, advanced armor, basic earth, basic logistics, useful spells: shield, bless, cure. Army - what is in the screen and 19 gr. crocodiles remaining (there was an external dwelling, same didn't respawn due to sawmill block).
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Uncle, don't compare a battle without a book and with a book :) And 19 gr of crocodiles isn't exactly a gift either =). Try taking the native swamp army of the second week for a max-con against anyone other than Vistan (SoD, TE-lite) - with any losses and without a book - then you'll have a reason to show off :)
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Uncle, don't compare a fight without the book and one with the book :) And 19 crocodiles are no gift either =). Try taking the native Swamp army of the second week to max out someone other than Vistan (SoD, TE-lite) with any losses and without the book—then you'll have a reason to show off :)
Boy :D, 7 bulls and 5 vives will definitely compensate for 9 extra crocodiles obtained via an external dwelling, and as for the book: compare Neela's stats and Vistan's, who, again, judging by the stats, was certainly not level 4, nor did he have advanced armor.;)

P.S. Regarding the max-gnome on the first—I think I once took Tazar in a game with Scorp, but he was a beast there, already with expert air. I'm unlikely to find the saves; it was almost a year ago. Vive saved both, not sure about Vasya, didn same for Lizey (didn't upgrade), at the end of the fight they quite successfully took the melee retaliation.
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NeeLa 4 levels: 4-2-6-30, advanced armor, basic earth, basic loga, useful spells: shield, bless, cure. Army - what's in the screenshot and 19 gr. crocodiles remaining (there was an external dwelling, the wyverns didn't fit due to the sawmill blockade).
It happened completely by accident, I just generated mm6 in light mode with Bron to refresh the nuances, bought the army for 124 and jumped into the Griffin Conservatory without checking, just to see what would come of it.

With such a setup, I probably wouldn't go for the max difficulty, here the striking stack is the crocodiles, the rest fall pretty quickly, and if there are morale procs instead of petrification, a loss is very likely.
In a real game, you would have gone for it, admit it? :)
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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With this setup, I probably wouldn't try to go for the maximum difficulty. Here, you have a strong crocodile stack, and the rest fall relatively quickly, but if they have morale instead of petrification, then defeat is very likely.
In a real game, it would be useful, admit it? :)
Specifically, with this setup, it's definitely necessary, or can you just write GG (Good Game) right away: Neela isn't just there for show, she has 4 levels at 123.
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not bad, level 4 and stats 4, 2, 6, 3.
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Boy:D
Don't be rude, you drunkard :D
PReDS
7 Griffins and 5 Dryads will definitely compensate for the 9 extra Crocodiles obtained through the stash, and regarding the book: compare the stats of Neela and Vistan, who, again, judging by the stats, was definitely not level 4, and his armor is not advanced either.;)
First of all, are you familiar with the concept of a "shock stack"? :) And one that can also cast Stone Skin? So, the idea of equality is very debatable, and besides, I didn't understand how 19 Crocodiles remained and 6 died; were there 25 of them? And besides, 6 Crusaders and 30 mana are also not bad compared to a couple of extra strength points. Anyway, never mind, take a Swamp army and try to beat the second week's maximum difficulty with Tazar without a book... then we can talk, but for now, it's all just talk :)
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Why take them without a book? 2-3 simple spells can reduce losses by 2-3 times, and I don't remember any situations where it was necessary to "only use your own army."

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Not bad, level 4 and stats 4 2 6 3
Axe +2, 2 free +1 to magic and +1 to magic for 1000 - there's not much mana, so a spell was needed as much as possible.

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Wlk777
Don't be rude, you drunkard :D
- Are you, sir, suffering from any bad habits?
- What do you mean, Doctor! I'm enjoying them!
Wlk777

First of all, are you familiar with the concept of a "shock stack"? :) And one that can also cast Stone Skin? So, the idea of equality is very debatable, and besides, I didn't understand how 19 crocodiles remained and 6 died, were there 25 of them? Well, and besides, 6 Crusaders and 30 mana is also not bad compared to a couple of extra power points.
Here, the start was for Bron, as I wrote, and even without ambushes, he can have 19 crocodiles on the second week, a quite decent shock stack and without a book, if the layout is tolerable and there is somewhere to level up: the group of Vases has damage 6-10, so Bless increases the damage by an average of 25%, i.e., exactly the same as increasing the attack by 5.
Wlk777

Okay, fine, take the Swamp army, reach the second week, max out Tazar without a book... then we'll talk, but for now, it's all just talk :)
“Directing your thoughts to the Higher Self, free from desire and selfishness, healed from mental fever, fight, Arjuna!”
“Bhagavad Gita”! Song Three, verse thirtieth.:)
In other words, forget about the relationship with Vik, especially since another host is being sought, sign up for the Tournaments - we'll check it out there.;)
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Gerfulv, like Bron, is valuable not in itself, but because of what it brings: 250 hit points with 4 defense and armor can distract anyone for a long time.
What is more valuable to you, a ballista or a stack of archers? :confused:

P.S.: If I'm not mistaken, Maxiconsu on the 2nd week took Neo for Thazar without books. He even posted the saves.
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More about Gervulf. According to the formula, the damage of a ballista depends only on the attack stat. What if Gervulf, on the very first day, levels up and acquires artifacts that increase his attack to 4? Then he will be just as powerful as Gurnisson.
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!

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