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since those who defend are knowingly lying, then the attitude towards their other arguments is the same ;)
Those who defend are not lying, but rather reasoning based on the information provided, that is, the save files. I didn't use the Asm program, so I wasn't aware of the turn order when I wrote the program-related post.
At first, I mistook Trezhu3 for the path to the computer, and only after a second look did I realize that it was indeed a treasure - there's a bug in the template structure.
It seems that a dialogue between us is indeed impossible. This treasure is absolutely symmetrically located in relation to the snowy treasure, about which you are rambling, claiming that it is some kind of positive move. And I am annoyed by people who spout utter nonsense. I made one mistake - about the techport. And you've already made about five.
Draw your own conclusions, gentlemen.
well, you should also understand that Wicc's goal is not to justify KV, but to teach how to corner maphackers so that it's obvious to the whole community :)
and he's not just teaching you, but also AK, who is definitely reading this.... on the other hand, even with the selective argumentation of the respected Wicc, which is difficult for anyone to refute (for this, at least, one must have the desire))) public opinion on this subject is definitely not on the side of KV, including top players ;)
Added 6 minutes later Wicc
Those who defend don't lie, but reason based on the information provided, i.e., the saves. I didn't use the Asm program, so I wasn't aware of the turn order when I wrote the program post.
so, what about 214? how many battles with different noobs, with a complete transfer of power and artifacts, need to be conducted to lose in 8 minutes? And I'm more than sure that neither power nor artifacts were particularly transferred on that turn - let's check? :)
It seems that a dialogue between us is truly impossible. This treasure is absolutely symmetrically located in relation to the snow treasure, about which you keep talking, claiming it's some kind of positive move.
You don't seem to be reading my posts before commenting. It was clearly written - "I thought it was the road to the computer." I thought, not a Key Vault. Or maybe the Key Vault thought so too, who knows.
And I get annoyed by people who spout utter nonsense. Like saying there wasn't enough time to create art and so on. I made one mistake - about the teleport. And you've already made about five.
Dude, I sometimes make mistakes due to a lack of information or brain laziness, but I always pay close attention to the logical coherence of the text. So be careful with the "mistakes" you're talking about. You need to measure seven times before making such accusations.
What kind of mistake is it to talk about art? It's a fairly common occurrence, and 8 minutes won't fix it, it will скорее relax you. People have gotten into much worse situations - they put artifacts on the altar, but didn't have time to press the button before their turn ended.
The other "mistakes" are probably the same.
Added 2 minutes ago wowa
How many battles with different noobs, with full power transfer and artifacts, do you need to lose in order to waste 8 minutes?
1) Go to the bathroom while it's your turn. 2) Go to answer the door for the pizza delivery guy and not notice that your turn has started. 3) Simply forget to put on the artifacts before passing the turn. 4) Just think hard. By the way, I personally spent all 6000 seconds of my time in the Throne of Elements (week 4) just on thinking. Should I continue?
[/U] 1) Go to the bathroom on your own turn. 2) Go outside to receive the pizza delivery and not notice that your turn has started. 3) Simply forget to equip artifacts before passing the turn. Shall I continue?
This might work when the game is in a non-confrontational stage. But when you're heading for a definite confrontation, a bit of adrenaline flows into your blood, don't you think? You didn't forget to equip artifacts for the Fortress fight, did you? And here, there's a potential Fortress fight – if the red player has any of the items for transporting units across the hill ;)
Hence, the relaxation is based on the confidence that the opponent doesn't have and won't have any transport units to cross the hill!
It will not only be available in version 214 but also in subsequent versions, for example, version 215. I simply don't see the point in arguing with opponents if they are trying to act in a provocative manner.
Dude, I sometimes make mistakes due to a lack of information or brain laziness, but I carefully monitor the logical coherence of the text.
What is the bug in passing through the Treasury in Might and Magic III? I don't see it.
4) It's a good idea to take your time. By the way, I personally spent an entire week (the 4th) using up all 6000 seconds in the Time Edict, specifically for thinking. Continue?
This isn't the Time Edict – just enter a battle and think as much as you like... You can also go to the bathroom, have a smoke, and take a trip to the nearest brothel around the corner if you get restless :D :D :D And as for not seeing the map in battle, you can memorize it during your opponent's turns... and take some time to think... the situation only changes based on your opponent's moves and what they reveal – what exactly did your opponent have in this specific case?Nothing! ... from what was clearly visible
this might work when the game is in a non-confrontational phase. but when you're heading for a definite confrontation, a bit of adrenaline does flow into your blood, doesn't it? you didn't forget to equip your creatures with artifacts for the Fortress Fight, did you? and here, there's a potential Fortress Fight – if the red player has any of the items for crossing the hill ;)
hence, there's a sense of calm based on the confidence that the opponent doesn't have and won't have any means of crossing the hill!
Do you understand the difference between a personal opinion and a court ruling? A personal opinion doesn't require a complete picture; a probabilistic assessment is sufficient for making a decision.
For example, if you believe that Vasya is 30% likely to be poisoning your milk, that's enough reason to stop associating with him. But that's clearly not enough to bring him to justice in court.
The same applies here – you made an assumption, even if it's quite likely, but are you willing to claim that it will always be true (or at least with a probability of 95% or higher)? I highly doubt it. For example, I haven't felt any adrenaline while playing Heroes for a long time.
Added 1 minute ago Oelm
What's the bug in passing through the Treasury in Might and Magic 3? I don't see it.
Just renumber the zones of this square according to the template. You'll see an extra passage.
Added 2 minutes ago wowa
this isn't the right way – go into battle and think as much as you want... you can also go to the bathroom, have a smoke, and take a trip to the nearest brothel around the corner if you're feeling restless :D :D :D
Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to count chains while in battle. And it's not very convenient to think without seeing the board – whether it's chess or Heroes.
Tell me, am I understanding your point correctly – you're claiming that in a game at 8 minutes, time can't run out, no matter what happens, right?
And the second point – you're claiming that no player, under any circumstances, will forget to equip artifacts and position themselves for battle when jumping towards the opponent, right?
AYMAN game saves: Blue Swamp vs. Killer Vampire, Red Castle (Gosha).
Specifically for Vik (because he's the only one who starts defending it, for some reason).
Gosha makes a beautiful and precise move to a nice treasure room through a barbarians' respawn point.
(It's not visible in the replay or overview what's there). But he went there!
You understand the difference between a personal opinion and a court ruling - a personal opinion doesn't require a complete picture; a probabilistic assessment is sufficient for making a decision.
For example, if you believe that Vasya poisoned your milk with a 30% probability, that is a sufficient reason to stop communicating with Vasya. But that is clearly not enough to bring him to justice through the courts.
The same applies here - you made an assumption, even if it is quite likely, but are you ready to claim that this will always be the case (or at least with a 95% probability)? I highly doubt it. For example, I no longer get an adrenaline rush when playing Heroes.
adrenaline, concentration based on experience - what's the difference...)))
and then - a trial against whom? against a doctor of science, or against a simple worker? with the accusation of vomiting in the library? depending on the suspect's personality and attitude to the arguments, it may be different, because motives, damn it, motives!..... now they are accusing a player who ruined Gosha's game, even though the neighbor-necromancer was defeated in the first week, and on the defendant's bench (exactly there, not in the lawyer's office - he moved there voluntarily) is Vic!... :D :D :D
Added 7 minutes later Wicc
Unfortunately, it is quite difficult to calculate chains while in battle. And it is not very convenient to think without seeing the board - whether in chess or in Heroes.
Tell me, am I understanding your thought correctly - you claim that at 8 minutes into the game, the time cannot run out, no matter what happens, right?
And immediately the second thought - you claim that no player, under any circumstances, will forget to put on artifacts and position themselves for battle when jumping to attack the opponent, right?
))))))))) Yur, let's not be abstract, but about a specific game ....so, question for a question: 1. were there any chains in it that needed to be calculated? 2. what was so unusual happening at 214 (except for going to the toilet - the opponent didn't have time to go while it was his turn, and there was no time to wait for your turn) that the merciless time so suddenly ruined the blue team's preparation for the invasion? 3. mistakes happen - you forget... but this is like forgetting to remove the handcuffs after a fight :D :D :D it's quickly fixed... as for the totality with the other arguments in this specific game... ;)
well, you should also understand that Vika's goal is not to justify the maphacker, but to teach how to corner maphackers so that it is obvious to the entire community :)
Yeah.
It's even surprising that people are so weak in their arguments, clinging to all sorts of nonsense, and allowing themselves to be flooded with irrelevant information. I would build the line of accusation completely differently - I would choose several specific episodes (the criteria are described above), and present the rest as a background that is not supposed to be analyzed in detail.
I think I play more often than in King's Bounty. Mostly, I finish games around 6 minutes with a lighter or in Versus mode. It rarely takes me 1.5 minutes, almost never a minute, and I've never finished a game in zero time. Without a lighter, running out of time is quite possible, even on level 8. Some people, for reasons known only to them, don't use a lighter. P.S. Based on the screenshots and arguments I've seen from Oelm, if there were a vote on whether maphacking/cheating should be allowed, I definitely wouldn't be able to decide how to vote.
Oelm
