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Did bRitvo4kA cheat on level 147?
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(Censorship), Yura wrote.

A shitty investigator is one who identifies the criminal based on personal preferences. An investigator is also human; maybe he just didn't like someone's face among the suspects, and now he has to dig into them. In my opinion, you don't have much experience dealing with them. And in court, should the judge also rely on intuition?

It's foolish to deny that such investigators exist, but it's not the norm.

The World Cup is ending now. Look at Domenech's work with the French and Löw with the Germans (people with different psychological approaches to choosing players and football in general). You are currently demonstrating a psychology close to Domenech's; he was also a great intuit, and he didn't even take players born under the sign of Scorpio into the national team. Therefore, I suggest everyone urgently write their birth dates; if a player is a Scorpio by zodiac sign, then they are a cheater. Or a "potential" cheater.

Regarding the move. Did you actually look at the saves? If so, explain why this move is negative. In general, there is risk, of course. But first, there is no question of any Dimension Door back. If returning, it's through breaking and buyout. Second, for some reason you are stubbornly ignoring that the game was on slow roads, which give, if I'm not mistaken, only 25% + to the number of moves. Well, you stepped aside off-road, found nothing — Dimension Door closer to the center, and so on; and as for the fact that the central treasure zone is underground, meaning it's possible to go there too, are you also somehow not noticing that?
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Of course, you only started playing Heroes recently, but now you're dominating with Black Knight.
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Yeah, I gave it away :D Ask Domenek about it, I'm really curious.
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Redwhait HP

I looked at the saves after the continuation.
224-227. Red takes the "can" and immediately uses DD to a treasure zone, stumbling upon a Dragon Utopia :) well, they take it right here, grab the village, and go into the dungeon to double their mana. In the village, they hit the tavern and a couple of heroes as if for scouting.
The next day, TP to Inferno; we pick up 4 efreets there—interesting why, this move would have killed me, but let's look further. We return to the village, and without touching the empty chest, we go west toward the dragons; KV and level 2 magic don't interest us either, what interests us is the chest with 12 efreets :) and the hive, then DD to another treasure zone where we break through 2 prison guards and the shield + black market.
The next day we run into the darkness again and lo and behold, we get the "can", use DD again and head upwards. 227 - a couple more steps into the darkness, oh look, there's a Dragon Utopia, beauty; DD into the darkness and we carry off the "teapot" almost right from under Kreg's nose, and we don't enter the hive otherwise we might run out of moves—that's the catch, but you can always return for the hive, whereas in this situation, one is extremely reluctant to give the "teapot" to Kreg....
And you guys are discussing Razor's ambiguous behavior here?
Reddy, I assume you have Valenkov's saves of those turns?
Please send them to me or post them, because I'm missing 223-226; I've become curious myself how Nelka ended up there
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Read it – it made me smile. Looked at the poll – I just laughed, it’s really obvious to anyone. It somehow shows the importance of the “skill” (if such a concept exists).
If you’re interested, create a separate thread, why not? Check out a bunch of Pandora boxes, look for more interesting ones from those that remain, not from those that were taken, because they were probably there. Didn’t kill the companion? The transformation started at 111, go bang your head against a wall, my skill level is low, I don’t have the intelligence to understand that I need to rush there.
I apologize in advance, from now on, neither this nickname nor this IP will appear in any post on the forum, assert yourselves on someone else, I will always know: if an unknown player with the nickname BAJIEHOK wants to play Heroes, many more people will agree to play with him than with the originator of this thread.
And Killer is a real (censored), keep posting your pathetic victories, and (censored) to your idols, thanks to everyone, you’re all free.
Pasha, Vitya, Valera, my apologies, I just had to get it off my chest.
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BA/IEHOK
The broadcast started at 111, go bang your head against a wall, my skill level is low, I can't keep up with you, I don't know what to do there.
I wonder, did you also broadcast the game a week later, on April 17th, after move 223?
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If we're going to sink, let's sink together.
You misunderstood. I'm just suggesting comparing the situations. Valenka also has a DD. How would you play in his place?
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Valenok, do you know what the heroic difference is between us? If I messed up the situation so badly, I wouldn't even hint at my suspicions about AK. Even if there were many questionable moments in the game (and not just the trivial stuff that's being thrown around). Because it would disgust me. I would probably put the saves in a "box," but mainly, I would reconsider my own gameplay. Take a look at the portal sometime, where the discussion about Vitalik was, or on Bai, there's a thread about Eduard Pashko. And feel the difference. In the level of analysis and argumentation. Personally, for me, players are divided into 3 categories: those I fully trust, questionable players, and dishonest players (cheaters). Believe me, I've reviewed far more of Andrey's game saves than you have. I have no reason to consider him even a questionable player.
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You seem very determined and passionate in defending that particular point of view...
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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So, a million for each post, and you thought otherwise.
Someone mentioned that we played repeatedly.
Vigo
we played several times; the first time, I suspected something myself; the second and third times, I showed your gameplay to honest guys, and they also said that you were cheating, and I publicly confronted you then, but you couldn't even explain anything and just swore and banned you from HP! So you wouldn't offend decent guys and waste their time!
Have you already found the saves from our games, reports, and other things?
I'm very interested in how you can claim that if we never played with you.
The only thing that connects us is the log I posted from ICQ. And who are you after that?
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Vigo, I’m not defending Britvochka at all. I’m waiting for convincing evidence that the player, whose name doesn’t really matter to me, committed a maphack or played unfairly. If Andrey loses, it will essentially mean that now every player must strictly follow a strategy understandable to the AK or specifically to Vika (and also behave in a way that the AK investigator doesn’t accidentally mistake him for a pickpocket... ugh, for a cheater).
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Oelm
Valenok, do you know the heroic difference between us? If I had screwed up the layout that miserably, I wouldn't even mention my suspicions of AC. Even if there were many dubious moments in the game (and not just the scraps falling out). Because it would be repugnant to me. I would probably put the saves "in a drawer," but primarily I would re-evaluate my own play.
Is there any connection between one player's skill and another's suspicions of cheating? Or do you think we were interested in knowing the difference between you and Artem? Or have the more or less plausible arguments simply run out?

I am not siding with either party.
The accusation is convincing, and I don't understand the move with the utopa; I still haven't received a coherent explanation. What I did receive is something I came up with myself 2 months ago. But I lack the skill to evaluate the benefit of this move myself; I could have trusted Vic in this regard if his opinion weren't known to be biased (as is Oelm's opinion).
Therefore, I am not voting
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To have arguments for the defense, there need to be arguments for the prosecution. I'm looking for them like Diogenes, with a torch in broad daylight, but they are being hidden from me. Kash, you probably saw the controversial episode in the Kebazavr - Britva match. There, no one considered Keb's actions suspicious. I feel the same way. Although, for me, there is an undeniable similarity in these game situations. Maybe you find Vik's position well-argued? He presented it in three points: 1. Andrey cheated in this match. 2. Andrey cheats systematically. 3. Andrey cannot be cured of cheating. 3. - As you probably noticed, we have all these highly qualified psychiatrists with experience and practice here. Maybe we can create a society of anonymous cheaters on the forum. We could invite Vik as the leading specialist. 2. To talk about systematic cheating, as I understand it, evidence and an analysis of at least three matches are needed. Where are they? Sam writes that there may have been a maphack in the match with Alex. Where are the arguments? Vigo writes that Andrey cheated in the match with him, and repeatedly. But again, where are the facts? Write to me in a private message, for example. 1. I have already presented arguments that were considered nonsense. But it is not considered nonsense to reason that - I don't like this person because of his character traits, so he is definitely a cheater.
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Oelm


Kash, you probably saw that controversial episode in the Kebazavr - Britva match. No one there considered Keb's actions suspicious. I feel the same way. However, for me, there is an undeniable similarity in these game situations.


Hello everyone.

This is the third time you've written about the similarities between my game and this one. So, let me explain that there is absolutely no similarity. Therefore, don't use my game as an example here. This Britva guy was already a (censored) on the portal, and after he was banned, he moved to WoL, but he just expanded his nickname to boost his ego. There was an episode when my internet connection dropped (and I had completed my turn and recorded it), and as a result, when I received Wisdom and was also advanced, plus I got the entire 4th floor in Pandora by running down to destroy it with my growth, and even if I'm attacked, I'll pay them off because I took Utopia beforehand. You're going to compare that to the fact that here, a move was made to a corner of the map where you could only reach Utopia by opening a card. These are completely different things. And there's nothing similar here. I just got lucky that I was given Wisdom and the 4th floor was learned. Moreover, I was already messing up in that game after the first disconnect, I don't even remember... I practically didn't make a move; I was supposed to attack his capital the day before.
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I don't think it was the third one)

Let's not argue.

But look, Dragon Utopia was also taken here before using Dimension Door to the opponent.
There is also impl, meaning if you are attacked, you can buy your way out by dealing 1000+ damage. You didn't have strike magic, if I'm not mistaken.

Of course there is a difference in that you found Pandora with level 4, and Andrey found Dragon Utopia. But if it had been the other way around, what would that actually change?

I was just lucky then that they shoved stupid wisdom down my throat, and I had already learned the 4th floor.

I agree with that too, but why can't we chalk it up to luck in this game? Especially since, objectively, the Reds' situation remained much better.
This guy "Britva" was a (censored) even back at the portal
Now that I agree is important. But I have information that he was banned for swearing at the moderators, not for cheating. Is this correct? If there was cheating, were the saves of his games analyzed? Were they preserved? It would be interesting to know. If they don't exist, I agree, you can't give a player "Cheater" status just because several other players, even very strong and authoritative ones, intuitively distrust him.
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Oelm
But I have information that he was banned for using abusive language towards the moderators, not for cheating. Is this correct?

Where did you get this information? I reviewed the posts of the player Britva, and I didn't find any abusive language there.
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