Nominations and withdrawals in the Arbitration Committee. — Tournament History

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5/31/2010 12:38 PM UTC #16

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How can you not assemble a good team? Vityok, while Pasha Dubrovin, Mizrael, Pit, and Vbn are there, isn't that a worthy lineup?

Scorp, LeBron, and Dirty want to leave because they don't have enough time. So, the question is whether others will have the time. In other words, will we find people who can dedicate their free time to analyzing controversial hero-related issues? That's the question.

I hope everything will be good in this regard.

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Registered: 9/26/2008 2:20 PM UTC

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5/31/2010 1:22 PM UTC #17

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I’ll just express a few thoughts:

1. The expectation that it would be possible to have 7 people ready to set aside personal ambitions and work toward developing the resource has unfortunately failed.

2. In its current composition, the AC is clearly no longer capable of being functional and reasonably adequate. The mood is off.

3. Disband the AC altogether? But why? What are the main tasks of the AC? To resolve contentious issues, including those related to unfair play, and to help forum members.

Clearly, no one intends to do the second anymore; they don’t want to work out of enthusiasm — understandable, we’re all human. But contentious issues still need to be resolved somehow.

4. My proposal is to disband the AC. Elect a Chief Judge of HeroesWorld by vote, who will be entrusted with resolving contentious issues and the right to award CMs. This person chooses 2 assistants, or more if they wish. And with such a team, they would resolve all kinds of problems that arise. I believe it’s essential that opinions are considered equally. That is, the Chief Judge would not have a decisive vote or the ability to pressure their assistants.

As I see it, this is the best solution to the problem at the moment.

5. No overlap between moderating and judging(!) Enough of the cleanup of statements from those who disagree with the AC or the judging committee (if one is created).

P.S.
Vic, I’m tired of your cheap sabotage. Can’t you rise above this?

Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.

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Registered: 2/29/2008 11:23 AM UTC

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5/31/2010 1:25 PM UTC #18

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Wicc

Why not... there's a pretty decent lineup:

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FILJA

Isn't that Filya, from the VT chat? If so :smile03:

It's a real shame if you happen to buy more than 1 hero in the tavern - a permanent ban from all championships :D

P.S. Please don't bring your own people into the ranks of power.

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Registered: 3/9/2008 1:45 PM UTC

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5/31/2010 1:35 PM UTC #19

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Working in the Arbitration Committee (AK) действительно requires a lot of time. For the first six months, I could dedicate 3-4 hours a day (2-3 full working days a week) to the forum and resolving disputes in ICQ. 70% of that time was spent on AK work. There are many disputes. The archive contains about 70 analyzed games. 9/10 of all forum disputes were resolved privately, without appearing on the forum. Since December, my real life has changed significantly. Now I only have time to read the forum (and not even all of it) and participate in the seasonal rating. I no longer have the opportunity to constantly be online in ICQ. I am withdrawing.

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Registered: 3/20/2006 3:14 PM UTC

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5/31/2010 1:41 PM UTC #20

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I nominate Dubrovin Pavel, Loi, Piterius, rebellious, and vbn for the Arbitration Committee. These are modest people, and not everyone can nominate themselves so easily, so I will nominate them.

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

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5/31/2010 1:43 PM UTC #21

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I think it's time to wrap up the humorous part (except for Vik, of course), and we'll wait for the votes of the two remaining candidates before nominating others. We have some respected and serious people in mind, with more flexible schedules (hopefully)...

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Registered: 11/27/2007 1:22 PM UTC

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5/31/2010 1:57 PM UTC #23

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The option with a judge for all HvC matches is actually quite interesting...

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5/31/2010 1:58 PM UTC #24

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Qwerty

I nominate Dubrovin Pavel, Loi, Piterius, rebellious, and vbn for the Administrative Council (AK).
These are modest individuals who might not nominate themselves easily, so I will nominate them.

For the sake of objectivity, I can dedicate 2-3 hours a day, mostly in the evenings during weekdays. I can't allocate more time due to work and other responsibilities. I believe that most people, especially those with busy lives, face a similar situation. Expecting more from a group of individuals is unrealistic. Therefore, we need to choose between quality and speed, or simply accept that the AK will become a historical footnote.

Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.

icq: 407907277
skype: piterius_i

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Registered: 11/23/2007 11:24 AM UTC

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5/31/2010 2:00 PM UTC #25

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scorp

I guess it's time to stop with the humor / except for Vik, of course / and wait for the votes of the two remaining members, and then we'll nominate candidates / I have some respected and serious people in mind, with a more flexible schedule (hopefully) / ...

It's hard without humor, especially in such a humorous topic :)
So, Vik is right here.

In short, the conclusion on this topic is: AK = withdrawal.
or AK = puppet.
or AK = dissolution.
It seems there are no self-nominated candidates? And there probably won't be any.

Who needs such an ungrateful job? They were chosen, they made decisions, and after that, this is what happened? What's the point of this circus with AK then?
This is about how the cheating of the great Alex was exposed on the computer... from that episode, the campaign against AK began. But there were noble people here. They don't want to get involved in such things anymore, and I understand them. I've been told more than once that I'm attacking the entire portal, but it seems that the World is dying... and it's becoming something like a stale joke. Although, lately, it's become calmer and more pleasant on the joke forum.

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

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5/31/2010 2:06 PM UTC #26

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Captain

It seems like World of Xeen is dying here.

Nah, it's not dying... just having some growing pains...

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5/31/2010 2:10 PM UTC #27

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Piterius

To be objective, I can dedicate 2-3 hours a day, and during the week, this is mainly in the evening.

This is enough if everyone is working. Now, players are contacting us more often through the forum, whereas before, a lot started with them messaging me on ICQ, and I would handle the issue until it was resolved. I would only pass it on to the Technical Support team if I couldn't solve it myself.

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Registered: 11/15/2008 9:53 PM UTC

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5/31/2010 2:10 PM UTC #28

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Captain

Who needs such an ungrateful task? They were chosen, they made decisions, and after that, this is what happened? What's the point of this circus with the AK then?
I'm talking about how cheating was exposed during the games of the great Alex... that episode started the backlash against the AK. But there were noble people here. They don't want to get involved in such things anymore, and I understand them. I've been told more than once that I'm being too harsh on the entire portal, but it seems like World is dying... and it's becoming something like a bore. Although, lately, things have become calmer and more pleasant on the bore.

I think the self-withdrawals of current AK members are not related to pangs of conscience about the poor, unfortunate, and completely undeservedly offended ATG and the desperate cries of a few (very few) people who sympathize with him, but rather to a real lack of time among those who have withdrawn. World is not dying; a significant number of new strong players are emerging, tournaments are being held, and the forum itself is active and visited – what more is needed?

Всем удачи ! И Морали !

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5/31/2010 2:18 PM UTC #29

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Wlk777

The game isn't dying; a significant number of new, strong players are emerging, tournaments are being held, and the forum itself is active and well-visited. What more could you want?

So, let's choose the twice-banned player who loves to wave his sword around, Wlk777? ;)

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

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Registered: 2/29/2008 11:23 AM UTC

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5/31/2010 2:32 PM UTC #30

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Captain

It’s hard without humor. Especially in such a humorous topic :)
So, Vic is right here.
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Who needs such an ungrateful task? They were chosen, they made decisions, and after that, this is what happened? What was the point of this circus with AK then?
I'm talking about how the cheating behind the great Alex's computer was exposed... and that's when the backlash against AK started. But the people here were noble. They don't want to get involved in something like that anymore, and I understand them. I've been told more than once that I'm criticizing an entire portal, but here, it seems like World is dying... and it's becoming something like a cliché. Although, lately, it's been calmer and more pleasant on the cliché.

What are you talking about, Captain? / Who needs such an ungrateful task?
- No one was going to wait for thanks for this work!!! Those who signed up for it did it to help the players, not for thanks, but for the idea.

And the backlash against AK started. It's funny, if the backlash that was scares you, well, what can I say, the others don't seem to care - IMHO/to convince the judge, you need arguments, not empty words.

They don't want to get involved in something like that anymore - judges will never be good for both sides, you understand, it's not easy.
P.S.: If anything, I'm always ready to help/and not for free.

World is dying... - well, this is just HUMORIST OF THE YEAR))), the most popular in the internet HMM :smile49: :smile08:
P.S.: Now I almost don't divide players into resources anymore - we are all HMM fans.

And it's become more pleasant. - and I wish ALL sites and players this!!!

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5/31/2010 3:12 PM UTC #31

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Also, some thoughts regarding the work of the AK, or the judging committee: if a player N suspects player X, then to consider such a claim, player N prepares a complete analysis of player X's game based on the save files, writes down what he considers controversial, what seems suspicious, and what seems logical. Only after that does he have the right to submit this proposal. There shouldn't be something like: "you, take a look at player X's save files, and see if there's anything there."

Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.