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Although, I remember Wlk also accusing everyone of cheating at an offline tournament and saying that it's impossible to complete a map in less than a few weeks... :D
Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
So, it seems Kaliostr doesn't really need this tournament... He didn't play with me – he was absent for 2 weeks. Now he didn't play with maxlewis either.
So, it seems that Kaliostr really doesn't need this tournament... He didn't play with me - he was absent for 2 weeks. Now he didn't play with maxlewis either.
Respected SergeyY, how many games have you played on time in our group? And should I remind you of the reason why we didn't play? And even after that reason, there was an opportunity to play, but someone didn't show up at the scheduled time. Regarding the game with maxlewis, if you're not aware of the situation, you shouldn't blame me for everything. Why spread negativity?????
Kaliostr
I don't need to hear about a scheduled date. In the days leading up to the New Year, on the 29th, 30th, and 31st of December, almost anyone can't play for objective reasons.
You were gone for two weeks, sometime from mid-December to December 29th. And I didn't "not show up," I directly said that I couldn't play anymore. You could have offered to play with me even on New Year's Eve.
But the fact that you couldn't play for two weeks, i.e., half of December, and disappeared completely, I hope that's not my fault? I was waiting and thought you would show up.
Comrade marazhan also couldn't play with me for two weeks in December, or rather, finish the game we started. But he didn't disappear like you did; he just said he had no connection, problems with Hamachi, etc. The second question is, is it my fault that I couldn't play with him for half of December?
So, to your question -
Dear SergeyY, how many games have you played on time in our group?
I played ONE game. But I don't think I'm in the least bit to blame for not playing more. Your absence and refusal to play kicked me out of the group, that's all.
Why are you spreading mud?
I'm not spreading mud on anyone. I just said my piece - if a person disappears for two weeks, then this tournament isn't very important to them.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so. Kash would have awarded the win to someone from you and maxlewis if you had provided at least a save file to determine the winner.
I don’t need to hear about a scheduled day. In the pre-New Year days, on December 29, 30, and 31, almost anyone can’t play for objective reasons. You were gone for 2 weeks, somewhere from mid-December to December 29. And I didn’t “not show up,” but directly said that I can’t play anymore. You could have offered to play with me even on New Year’s Eve.
But the fact that you couldn’t play for 2 weeks, i.e., half of December, and disappeared altogether, I hope this isn’t my fault?? I was waiting and thought you would show up.
Comrade marazhan also couldn’t play with me for 2 weeks in December, or rather, finish the game we started. But he didn’t disappear like you did; he just said that he had no connection, problems with Hamachi, etc. The second question is, is it my fault that I couldn’t play with him for half of December?
So, to your question:
I played ONE game. But I don’t think I’m in the least bit to blame for not playing more. Your disappearance and refusal to play knocked me out of the group, that’s all.
I’m not throwing mud at anyone. I just said my piece – if a person disappears for 2 weeks, then this tournament isn’t very important to him.
We agreed with SergeyY on a game for December 28. Unfortunately, due to me, it wasn’t possible to play earlier, as my power supply burned out. And after testing the new one, it turned out that the processor also burned out. - This is my message from January 27.
What other questions do you have? I consider all your claims to be mudslinging. I was as tactful as possible and explained everything clearly and in a timely manner.
Yes, I remember you initially suggested either December 30th or 31st, and then, realizing that December 30th-31st was impractical, you suggested December 28th... But you said you wouldn't be available until 8 PM. Honestly, I think you did that hoping I wouldn't be able to make it, and then you used the same excuse: "Well, I did offer!"
But I couldn't play during the days leading up to the New Year. I couldn't play in the last three days before the New Year. If I started playing in the evening of the 28th, the game would likely continue until the morning of the 29th, or it would be postponed even further. I know how people can play for 8-10 hours with restarts. On December 29th, 30th, and 31st, I absolutely couldn't play. And that's perfectly understandable. There's preparation for the New Year holidays and other things to do. It's bad when people can't play for half a month.
If your power supply failed, you could go to an internet cafe and at least occasionally appear on the forum or in ICQ to discuss the situation, instead of disappearing for half of December.
I consider all your accusations to be just mudslinging.
Well, then I apologize; we have different perceptions. I'm just stating my opinion: if someone disappears for half a month and can't even appear anywhere to say a word, then this tournament probably isn't that important to them. And nothing will change my mind. There's no mudslinging or insults here, because an insult is a harsh assessment of someone's personality. What I said is an unbiased thought based on observed facts.
By the way, Kash definitely said that both you and maxlewis didn't make it because "there were no contenders." If the tournament and advancing further were important to me, and maxlewis couldn't play or had problems, I would have become a contender. After all, this time he was ready to concede a technical victory. That is, I would either prove to Kash that I wasn't at fault and that the game didn't end because of me, or I would provide save files for determining the winner, or something else... But only people who didn't want to participate could both miss out, and Tolikandro wouldn't get an opponent. Kash said something along those lines. So, that's another confirmation that someone wasn't that interested in the tournament... :) By the way, what's so bad about that? Why are you immediately writing about mudslinging? Well, maybe people are busy or something else? It happens.
Yes, I remember you initially suggested either the 30th or the 31st of December, and then, realizing that December 30-31 was impractical, you suggested the 28th of December... But you said you wouldn't be available until 8:00 PM. Honestly, I think you did this hoping I wouldn't be able to make it, and then you'd use the same excuse: "Well, I did offer!"
Added 2 minutes later And I couldn't play during the pre-New Year days. My power supply burned out – I could have gone to an internet cafe and at least occasionally appeared on the forum or in ICQ to discuss the situation, instead of disappearing for half of December.
I couldn't play in the last three days before the New Year. Starting in the evening of the 28th, the game would have stretched into the morning of the 29th, or it would have been postponed. On the 29th, 30th, and 31st of December, I absolutely couldn't play. And that's perfectly understandable. It's bad when people can't play for half a month.
What nonsense! Read all my messages and your messages in this tournament, and then make your guesses and assumptions.
Life is a harsh thing. You ended up in a group where everyone played 3 games, and you haven't played any yet. I didn't need any games to advance from the group. Is that my fault? Even in this situation, I was looking for ways to play our match. And after all this, you say I don't need this tournament? Great, thanks for the kind words.
And thank you for not suggesting it on New Year's Eve. The fact that your power supply burned out is not my fault. And the fact that you disappeared for half a month is also not my fault. And the fact that Marazhan had computer problems and couldn't play for half a month is also not my fault. And so on. So, I'm not to blame, but I still got undeserved zeros and was eliminated from the tournament.
Life is a harsh thing. You ended up in a group where everyone played 3 games, and you hadn't played any yet. I didn't need any games to advance from the group.
When I joined the group, you had almost all played your games. But there was still enough time. Then, people refused to play with me for almost half a month until the New Year... And then they suggested playing in the days leading up to the New Year. What am I supposed to think about that? And some didn't even offer anything.
A typical situation: if both players get zeros for refusing to play with ANYONE (this isn't about us, just a theory). Let's say there's a group of 5 people, and 2 advance. They say to each other, "If we play matches, each of us has a 40 percent chance of advancing - two out of five." But let's not play with the fifth person; he'll get zeros and definitely won't advance, but we'll play each other, and our chances of advancing will increase! Hooray, what a great idea... Purely theoretically, what could happen if BOTH get zeros. :)
PS And yes, I am a little bit to blame... But only a little. I'm to blame for not being able to play for perfectly valid reasons for 3 days before the New Year in December... But waiting for more than half a month to play in a normal environment is not my fault. I think, weighing everything up and looking at it from the outside, it will immediately become clear. What everyone needed. So, we can stop having pointless conversations about this.
to Kaliostr & SergeyY there is only one solution here: keep playing, sign up for new tournaments, play in the season. And not figure out who acted how unpleasantly. Real defeats and victories are healing, in the sense that they straighten out your mind and set you up for skill training, rather than relationship clarification. Don't turn HeroesWorld into Dom-2 PS sorry that I put your nicks next to each other :)
Also, I want to add that if two people want to play, no burnt power supplies or New Year's holidays will stop them. If the game didn't happen, then at least one of the participants didn't really want to play, and possibly neither of them was particularly eager. IMHO.
There's a significant difference when one person can't play for just a couple of days, and that's right before the New Year holidays – due to objective reasons and circumstances. But the other person disappears from the forum and everywhere else for half a month, knowing that this half-month is the last chance to participate in the group tournament.
The difference is significant, and it's immediately clear who really didn't want to play.
Imagine, if I didn't want to, I would have disappeared too, and then, a few days before the New Year, I would have suggested, "Let's play a game, Wlk777, on December 30th or 31st." And you tell me that you CAN'T play in the last days before the New Year. Well, then, I'd say (realizing that you won't play anyway, but I need to make an offer so as not to be considered the guilty party), "Okay, let's play at NIGHT on the 29th..." And what would you think of me if you needed points in the tournament, and I kept advancing without playing against you?
The situation with Marazhan is completely different – he directly told Cash that he would NOT finish the game against me. He has computer problems and connection issues. That's it. No alternatives. Cash writes me a zero. Marazhan advances with his points, and I don't.
Now, if I see that (not because we couldn't agree), but because one of the participants directly refused to play, and the other receives an undeserved zero, I won't participate in such a tournament again...
There's a significant difference when one person can't play for just a couple of days, and even then, only before the New Year holidays – due to objective reasons and circumstances, while the other doesn't show up on the forum or anywhere else for half a month, knowing that these half a month are the last days for the group tournament.
The difference is significant, and it's immediately clear who really didn't want to play.
This difference is significant in your (subjective) system of values. For someone else, it might not be. And secondly, let's assume you're right in this case, so what? What does this "rightness" give you?
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