"Heroes 5". But are they really "Heroes"? — General

Nowizard

9/8/2006 11:37 PM UTC

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Yeah, so you're saying that if someone tries something for the first time, they'd master it instantly? HA! Ha, and again, ha! I'd like to see that. First, create something more substantial yourself, something better than a shoddy mod that doesn't even guarantee compatibility with the game (no offense to modders), and then you can judge what's good and what's bad.

Бог есть любовь

AlexeyPank

9/9/2006 4:24 AM UTC

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People! Why do you mix everything together: Heroes 5 as a game and Heroes 5 as the heroes themselves??? These are fundamentally different questions. As a game, Heroes 5 is very, very good, and the Nival Interactive team did a great job. They deserve praise. But it's not Heroes! It's just a very good game "based on" the universe created by Van Caneghem. Just like Heroes of Might and Magic. And Heroes 5 surpasses Heroes of Might and Magic as a game.

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Night

9/9/2006 4:28 AM UTC

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AlexeyPank;32335

Guys, why are you mixing everything together: Heroes 5 as a game and Heroes 5 as a sequel??? These are fundamentally different questions. As a game, Heroes 5 is very, very good, and the Nival Interactive team did a great job. They deserve praise. But it's not Heroes! It's just a very good game "based on" the universe created by Van Caneghem. Just like Heroes of Might and Magic. And Heroes 5 surpasses Heroes of Might and Magic as a game.

The problem is that in a fit of rage, people criticize Heroes 5 not only as a sequel but also as a game!

AlexeyPank

9/9/2006 5:02 AM UTC

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I never considered Heroes of Might and Magic V a bad game. Yes, there are many things I don't like, but all of them can be improved. The most important thing that I dislike is that Heroes of Might and Magic V stands apart from the Heroes universe. And the lack of attempts by Nival to rectify this. As a game, it's great, but as a continuation of the series (specifically the series, not just the gameplay), it's not.

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Nowizard

9/10/2006 10:06 AM UTC

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Hmm... Actually, that's true... Even though there's still a lot of work ahead for the Nival team before the storyline of the "new heroes" returns to the world of Van Cannegham.

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AlexeyPank

9/12/2006 4:28 AM UTC

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The problem isn't that they would have to put in a lot of effort to bring the storyline back into the Heroes universe. The problem is that Nival isn't even trying. Their main argument is that the previous storyline became too convoluted, so they had to create a new one. In the end, they could have announced a contest for the best storyline that connects everything. I think there would have been a lot of responses from fans.

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celt

9/12/2006 4:46 AM UTC

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Or release an expansion pack about the history of the world... and elaborate on the things that raise questions there (like the mention of Sandro)...

Скоро! Всем ждать! Они явятся!:smile20:

AlexeyPank

9/12/2006 4:51 AM UTC

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And this is also a possibility. It seems like it's not that complicated, but the Nival Interactive team remains silent. I want to believe that they are working on it, but for now, they are keeping it a secret. Although, most likely, this is just my wishful thinking.

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celt

9/12/2006 4:54 AM UTC

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It seems that Nival Interactive’s main goal is to spread out all the new features across a larger number of expansions... But they could simply release one VERY LARGE expansion... Perhaps this will be a combination and become the 3rd or 4th expansion...

Скоро! Всем ждать! Они явятся!:smile20:

AlexeyPank

9/12/2006 8:00 AM UTC

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One very large add-on is not the solution. If you proceed in this manner, it could lead to even more confusion. However, it is quite possible to release a single campaign that serves as a prequel. It should detail the origins of Sandro and explain why Crag Hack frightens people so much, and cover many other similar aspects. Alternatively, as a last resort, you could remove all such references from the fifth installment to avoid confusing the audience.

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celt

9/12/2006 8:01 AM UTC

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The former can be achieved with a single patch... And a campaign can be created, and I think it could definitely appear...

Скоро! Всем ждать! Они явятся!:smile20:

AlexeyPank

9/12/2006 8:11 AM UTC

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I would like to hope for the best. But for now, I believe Nival's silence on this matter is a sign of disrespect towards the fans. And this gives yet another reason to say that Heroes of Might and Magic V is not a true Heroes game.

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celt

9/12/2006 8:14 AM UTC

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This could have been called something like Lands of Might and Magic...

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Nowizard

9/12/2006 11:47 AM UTC

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AlexeyPank;32852

I would like to hope so. For now, I believe that Nival's silence on this matter is a sign of disrespect towards the fans. And this gives yet another reason to say that Heroes V is not a true Heroes game.

Maybe they are keeping quiet because they are preparing a HUGE surprise that will shake the world (I'm just expressing a glimmer of hope:))?

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AlexeyPank

9/14/2006 3:59 AM UTC

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If this major surprise actually happens, I will be the loudest one shouting: "The fifth installment of Heroes has finally become a true Heroes game!" I would really like it to be that way. But for now, I'm not even playing the fifth game, so as not to disappoint myself unnecessarily.

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