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I spent a whole hour writing the report... and then the browser said I wasn't logged in and closed the window... damn it... I'll rewrite the report tomorrow.
There are plenty of candidates, but I won't be replacing anyone else. That's enough. I also won't be contacting each person individually and asking: "Why aren't you playing?" Now it's up to you. Everyone promised to start playing soon. If you don't keep your promise, don't be surprised when, in the last days of December, opponents who have played all their games refuse to play with you. And I will be on their side.
Roman, thank you :) So far everything is fine, no complaints. There is a conscious part of the players who will apparently make it to the playoffs.
Now I'd like to bring up another unfortunate matter for discussion. Yesterday I was very displeased with the behavior of one of the participants. I won't name names, but keep in mind: let's not have any more such disgusting behavior!
The situation: Player A vs Player B. They chose random towns. Player A has a good layout, Player B has what's shown in the screenshots. Note — he's on a tiny patch of land, with no mines, no exits through rough terrain, and on the road there's a block of 50-99 devil eyes in front of a Pandora's box and an artifact. What to do there — unclear. In such cases, I tell my opponent that I have a block, and no one has ever argued with me. If someone suddenly refused a restart in a tournament game, I would play, put griffins in the Citadel, feed all the XP to one hero to level him up at least a bit, and fight those devil eyes at 121. Most likely, I'd lose if there are around 90 of them. Even if I got through, I'd lose most of my army. At 121 you're supposed to break a tier-3 conflux, not try to crawl out of your spawn point losing your entire army!
Player B writes to his opponent that he has a block and asks for a restart. He gets a refusal. He insists. Then Player A sends me the save so I can take a look. I look at it and say this is clearly a block. Player A seems to agree, then looks at the save himself, and starts arguing with ME that it's not a block. I send him a polite reply and forget about it.
A bit later, Player C (not in the tournament) messages me and keeps trying to convince me that it wasn't a block, that supposedly you can break through on the second week, and the guy is to blame for choosing random and getting unlucky, and let him do whatever he wants, etc. This infuriated me the most — for a while, I, a reasonable person, could only swear. So, without going into details, I repeat for everyone: THIS IS A BLOCK.
You may refuse a restart in such cases: a restart due to a severe block is not stipulated in the rules, and formally, by the letter of the law, you would be right. But what pleasure will you get from defeating an opponent who is stronger, by trapping him in a hopeless bag?? Yes, it's a tournament game, tough, you don't have to give an auto-loss surrender, but a restart due to a block!
Learn to be more open-minded, to rise above petty victories, and then real, well-deserved victories will come to you. I hope this doesn't happen again
I don't know who played it, but I will allow myself to note. Kash, do you remember what you answered in this post: /topic/at/308115/ The situation is as similar as two drops of water. Your answer.Kash
Unfortunately, this is impossible. And in general: you have 2 legitimate restarts to understand the layout of G. Use them wisely. Of course, if you are looking for something easy, you risk getting into trouble. Plus, there is also restart 116, which can be reached in almost 50% of cases. Correct behavior on Cherk and during restarts is also part of skill
This is a tournament, not a market where you can bargain. If you came up with such rules, then let's follow them. I said that there might be similar situations, however, you yourself said sorry, we won't change the rules. So this is reaping the fruits of your actions, no offense intended. And if AK decides to replay the game, it will go against the rules. For example, in this game, what could happen next? Player A gives Player B a restart due to a block. After the restart, player A discovers on day 4 that he has 1 expensive unit towards GO. He asks for a restart. According to moral principles, player B should give it, hmm... but what if he doesn't?? What kind of bargaining is this? There are rules, and they are rules.
To prevent this from happening in the playoffs, change the rules for the tournament.Kash
Now I would like to bring another sad moment to attention. Yesterday, I was very unhappy with the act of one of the participants. I will not name names, but keep in mind: so that there are no more such disgusting acts!
Kash - why did the action displease you? Because according to your rules, a restart is prohibited, and the person played by the rules????
P.S. I don't want to offend anyone and I don't know who played, just an interesting situation.
Roma, thank you :) So far everything is fine, no reason to complain. There is a conscious part of the players that will apparently make it to the playoffs.
Now I'd like to bring up another sad point for discussion. Yesterday I really didn't like the action of one of the participants. I won't name names, but keep in mind: let's have no more such disgusting actions!
The situation: Player A vs Player B. They picked their restarts. Player A has a good layout, Player B has what you see in the pictures. Notice — he's on a tiny patch, no mines, no exits through rough terrain, and on the road there's a block of 50-99 upgraded Eyes guarding a Pandora's and an artifact. What to do there — unclear. In such cases, I tell my opponent that I have a block, and no one has ever argued. Well, if they suddenly refused a restart in a tournament game, I'd play it, put Griffins in the Citadel, feed all the experience to one hero to level him at least a bit, and I'd hit those Eyes on day 121. Most likely I'd lose if there are around 90 of them. Even if I got through, I'd lose most of the "army." On day 121 you should be breaking a tier-3 Griffin Conservatory, not trying to crawl out of a spawn while losing your entire army!
Player B writes to the opponent that he has a block and asks for a restart. Gets refused. Insists. Then Player A sends me the save so I can look. I look, I say it's definitely a block. Player A seems to agree, then looks at the save himself, and starts PROVING to ME that it's not a block. I send him off politely and forget about it.
A bit later, Player C (not from the tournament) messages me and keeps trying to convince me that it wasn't a block, that he supposedly could break through on the second week, and the guy is to blame for picking restarts and getting unlucky, and he should do whatever he wants, etc. This infuriated me the most — for a while I, a reasonable person, could only swear. So, without going into details, I repeat for everyone: IT IS A BLOCK.
You can refuse a restart in such cases: a restart due to a strong block is not written in the rules, and formally, by the letter of the law, you would be right. But what pleasure would you get from beating an opponent who is stronger by trapping him in a dead-end bag?? Yes, it's a tournament game, tough, you don't have to give an auto-loss, but a restart for a block!
Learn to live broader, to be above petty victories, and then real victories will come to you, deserved ones. I hope this doesn't happen again.
So here's the thing — Player C was ME!!! How do you like this other situation — when they started replaying and already opponent A's draw is worse than B's and he loses... he offers a draw and gets refused!!! Do you like that? Block or not a block is no longer opponent A's problem... opponent B had restarts, why didn't he think it could turn out even worse??... For you, breaking a Conservatory on the second week is the standard or what? Sometimes I've had draws where my plans changed completely... In this situation, there are a lot of Eyes and you'd need to scout with a scout hero to see how many there are... then think and figure out how to break them... they can be broken calmly on the third week and you can keep playing... And regarding petty victories — you know, this is a tournament... I can give you five restarts and saves in a friendly game, but here, sorry... And if I took two restarts and then got dealt junk, I definitely wouldn't beg for another restart — I'd just write "the game didn't work out" and that's it... like all normal forum players do... Judge fairly!!!
The "block restart" and "one road to GO" situations are not like two peas in a pod. They are, excuse me, like heaven and earth... One road to GO is a difficult situation, a strong block at the exit of the castle is an insurmountable one. So don't compare them. The fact that a strong block is not provided for in the rules is probably to prevent abuse.
You can also refuse a restart in such cases: a restart due to a strong block is not written in the rules, and formally, by the law, you would be right. But what pleasure will you get from defeating a stronger opponent by trapping them in a hopeless sack?? Yes, it's a tournament game, tough; you can refuse an auto-surrender, but a restart due to a block!
I have nothing to add
Added after 4 minutes Player C
Judge fairly!!!
So, here's the thing. They agreed to ask me whether this was a block. I replied that yes, it was a block. Will anyone still argue that this is a block? What does breaking eyes on the third week have to do with it? On the third GO you need to break through, not punch your way out of the castle
opponent A's draw is worse than B's and he loses.... offers a draw and gets refused!!!
Here again is an unequal comparison. A worse draw is normal. A block at the exit is not a game; it's simply: the draw turned out such that you cannot play no matter how much you want. And not giving a restart in such a situation—that is nonsense
The situations of "rest per block" and "one way to the Guardian Outpost" are not the same. They are, excuse me, as different as night and day... One way to the Guardian Outpost is a difficult situation, a strong block at the exit of the castle is insurmountable. So, there's no need to compare them. The fact that a strong block is not provided for in the rules is probably to prevent abuse. I have nothing to add.
What's so insurmountable about it?? I said I broke through them on the 3rd turn!!!! You can continue playing....it's clear that it's not ideal, but that's just how it turned out... I should have chosen different options...!!!
I fully support Gomunguls. I repeat – change the rules for the tournament. I am sure that there will be other dissatisfied players in similar situations.
Kash
