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Offline Майор Вихрь
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Pop music is a musical genre. And "pop music" (in Russian, "popsa") is a collective term for frankly bad pop music. There are more than enough examples of this on the modern Russian pop scene. This is what "pop music" is. And, incidentally, it's also pop music. Although, sometimes even a non-pop artist can be called "pop music," and people will find reasons for it.

"Metallica sold out, Metallica after 1992 is pop music!!11"
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

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Offline Werevolka
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Pop music is a musical genre. And "pop music" (in a derogatory sense) is a collective term for frankly bad pop music. There are more than enough examples of this on the modern Russian pop scene. This is "pop music." And it also happens to be pop music. Although, sometimes even non-pop artists can be called "pop," and reasons for this are found.

"Metallica sold out, Metallica after '92 is pop!!11"

Exactly. That's exactly what I was talking about. It's as if someone read my mind.
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And "pop music" is a collective term for frankly bad pop music.
Ah-ah-ah, according to what criteria are they defined? How can they be distinguished? :D

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Offline Werevolka
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I think there are many criteria, actually. For example, how about this: if your ears droop, it means the music is bad. If your ears perk up, it means the music is good. ))) But seriously, I'm not even sure if these two concepts (pop and popsa) come from the same root. Any music can be "popsa" (aimed at a mass, not very sophisticated audience). For example, a pop arrangement of classical music is like icing on a bitter pill, so that the masses will swallow it.
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Offline kcfgogbfalgfl
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I think there are many criteria, actually. For example, how about this: if your ears droop, it means the music is bad. If your ears perk up, it's good. )))
It's all a matter of personal preference :)

In my media library, two contemporary (:smile04:) pop singers hold fairly high positions (2 and 10), so this question is very interesting to me.

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Offline Werevolka
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So, what exactly are you interested in? Are these two performers really that good? Well, there are international awards and contests if you need an objective opinion. But, in reality, the criterion is very simple – you like it or you don’t. No one will force me (or you, probably) to listen to music just because it won some award. Or even a lot of awards. ))) I do it very simply – I listen to music. If it grabs my attention, I listen further. If not, then why should I care what everyone else thinks about it?
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Offline kcfgogbfalgfl
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Are these two performers actually good?
Actually, I don't really care. :)
Werevolka
I have a very simple approach - I listen to music. If it catches my attention, I listen further. If not, why should I care what everyone else thinks?
Hmm, can I ask one impertinent question? :) Do you listen to music regardless of the genre? There are people who only listen to one genre, either because they don't like others (which happens), or simply out of principle, saying they won't listen to anything but ##### (I used to only listen to metal myself).
Werevolka
So, what exactly are you interested in?
How should I refer to their music? As pop or pop music? :D

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Offline Майор Вихрь
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A-a-a, what criteria are used to define them? How can they be distinguished? :D
In a narrower sense, it is only a low-quality and unoriginal part of pop music, based on low-quality imitation of successful performers (c) Wikipedia

Would such a definition suit you? :)

P.S. Just don't ask how to determine the quality of music, how original it is, etc.! :D
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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Offline kcfgogbfalgfl
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In a narrower sense, it is just a low-quality and unoriginal part of pop music, based on low-quality imitation of successful performers (c) Wikipedia
But how do you determine if the imitation is low-quality? :D
By the volume of sales? :)

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In general, the origin of a particular pop music style also matters. In the USA, it is still at a higher level (the music industry is the most developed there) than in other countries, and I won't even comment on our pop music because it speaks for itself. I think that all American pop artists who are known here are more or less listenable. They probably have some talentless pop music too, but no one outside the USA knows about it. However, if an artist's popularity is based on scandals in the press rather than on their musical activity, then it is pure pop music, because they have nothing else to attract attention with. IMHO.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Offline Werevolka
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Wesker


Hmm, can I ask one rather bold question? :) Do you listen to music regardless of the genre, right?
There are people who only listen to one genre, either because they don't like other genres (which happens), or simply out of principle, saying they won't listen to anything but ##### (I myself used to only listen to metal :))!


The question is very modest. O_o
I listen to any music because I am naturally very curious. In this sense, I am an extremely unprincipled person: I don't care what genre a particular artist belongs to. I probably have pop artists in my collection. It's just that the word "Pop" has long become a generic term and no longer has anything to do with pop music itself.

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And how do you determine if it's a low-quality imitation? :D
By the volume of sales? :)
In my opinion, an imitation is always lower in quality than the original. ))
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Offline MoonBoy
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No, it's like all those Viagra, Reflex, Rian, Britney Spears, and Bilan...:smile04:

WisTrit's question was perfectly timed:)
And what's the difference between your Slipknots, Rammsteins, Nightwish, Lacuna Coil, Rasmus, and all the other hyped-up stuff that EVERYONE listens to??????? Personally, I consider all of it to be just as pop. They're no better; they all cater to the masses and stop being interesting or unique as soon as they become popular. Throw them all away. You're all the same, just like your music. The material used to create this music naturally becomes part of one's worldview, and the more people listen to it, the more similar you all become. Groups that everyone knows, if only young, high school kids listen to them, because it's cool or something, haha:smile19:
I try to listen to lesser-known, rare groups, of any genre.
И страхи стали реальностью,а боль и страдания - наградой.Хотя и не благословенным началом,все готовятся к последнему СУДУ!
Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...
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Offline kcfgogbfalgfl
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Viagra and Reflexes are also little-known in world music ;)
I try to listen to unfamiliar, rare bands, regardless of the genre.In what sense are they rare? :smile04:
the rest of the hyped crap that EVERYONE listens to???????Well, of course. Some billionaire uncle decided to promote his nephew' same talentless little band, and of course everyone will listen to it. :smile01:

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Offline MoonBoy
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Viagra and Reflexes are also not well-known in world music ;)
But Rammstein is not, they are known everywhere :D And which of these is more mainstream??? No, I'm not asking about the genre, but specifically about popularity.
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In what sense are they rare? :smile04:
They are not well-promoted; they were created for art, not to make money. I think if I name an Italian band, Novembre, it won't mean anything to you, but it's the best Death Metal, Doom Metal, Gothic Metal in the world; the band is unique and unlike anything else. Or Eluveitie.
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Of course. A billionaire decided to promote a talentless band of his nephew, and of course, everyone will listen to it. :smile01:
Whether it's talented or not, he will impose common values on them. To work with the masses, cloning fans of Slipknot, Nightwish, and Rammstein, etc.
И страхи стали реальностью,а боль и страдания - наградой.Хотя и не благословенным началом,все готовятся к последнему СУДУ!
Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...
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Offline Майор Вихрь
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What can I say? People have always loved to compete in everything. They say they even argue about who listens to the coolest/heaviest/most experimental/most original music. Are they naive, though?
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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