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#892
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Volodymyr
. Doesn't this bother you, as I understand it?:)
Or is it too much to ask to read my entire post?:confused: It doesn't seem to be very long, you should be able to manage it ;)
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Didn't you even bother to read my post? :confused: It's not that long, you could have managed it ;)
I managed to read it, but you, for some reason, don't want to.
For example, someone gets +6 to all stats, and you get... well, let's just say less impressive items, in a hypothetical scenario. You lose, and then your opponent starts telling you how badly you played. Even though you think that anyone in your position would have lost with that set of items, and it's obvious. This irritates you, right? Why does he start lecturing you when anyone would have lost in that situation?
In *The Tournament*, they'll give you something useful, so the one who plays worse will lose, not the one who got bad items. And if you win, not many will say you played badly :)
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Guys, it's not about the art or how well someone plays. It's about relationships and mutual understanding!
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The point, guys, isn't in the art or how well someone plays. It's about relationships and mutual understanding!
That's what we're trying to find :)
And for each person, it's something different; for some, it's the art, and for others, it's something else.
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I had an idea, but I'm not sure which forum is the best place to post it – so I decided on this one. We still haven't figured out what the "rehabilitation mechanism" should be for cheaters and others who have earned a bad reputation. There were ideas about cheating with incredibly high win rates compared to losses (like in Vitalik's case) – that he should be tested in a real-life setting in a club to verify the accuracy of his online results. And I came up with something even more interesting: now that recordings of strong Heroes players are starting to appear, why not combine proof of a high level of play with educating the next generation? There is some education in the club as well, but it's more for the select few who are lucky enough to get in:rolleyes:. But here – bam! – it would be a huge thing for the entire Russian internet:smile25:. In my opinion, 2-3 weeks of playing a couple of castles would be a good contribution to one's own rehabilitation (provided that the level of play shown is positively evaluated by experts, of course). Of course, this is all voluntary and also depends on the quality of the internet connection. So, if it doesn't work out, that's fine.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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I think that the win rate cannot be direct proof of unfair play. For many, this percentage does not reflect their actual skill. For example, Alex_R, who once tried to convince me that counting damage in battles is completely unnecessary (and couldn't say how much damage 200 troglodytes inflict), has an incredibly high win rate. And conversely, there are people whose gaming skill is higher than their win rate. Even if there are replays of someone's questionable gameplay, what additional information will they provide? There is a program that allows you to restore the movements of heroes. This is quite enough.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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For example, Alex_R, who once convinced me that calculating damage in battles is completely unnecessary (and couldn't say how much damage 200 Troglodytes deal:)), has an incredibly high win percentage. And on the other hand, there are people whose game skill is higher than their win rate.

Yes, Pash, you're right about Alex:) , I remember in my only game with him, where due to my profound noobness (only played for the 2nd month) I lost on 117 even though the game was going pretty well for me, and the funniest part is that he also lost:D, because he supposedly planned to go for angels on the 1st via smk and to ramp up the pace attacked 20-49 elves on the grass - just a fatherly game, nothing to say;) . And his comment about taking the max Griffin Conservatory at Neoendi for swamp without oil on the 2nd was especially amusing: he said he lost a lot of gnolls there - basically implied that 4 angels aren't worth losing 80 or 90 gnolls:D ...

And you're also right about unlucky people, whose real skill is higher than their win rate. There are quite a few of them.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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KostyaN
In my opinion, spending 2-3 weeks playing a couple of castles would be a good contribution to one's own rehabilitation (provided that the level of play is positively assessed by experts, of course). This is, of course, a voluntary matter and also depends on the quality of the internet connection. So, if there's no interest, then there's no interest.
You see, Konstantin, the thing is that many players can conduct battles excellently, but they don't show such phenomenal results as those who can find the most necessary objects at the moment with amazing accuracy, jumping directly to them in almost every game. If, during a live game, they demonstrate such clairvoyance in several games (playing as if they have an open map), then perhaps we can talk about their rehabilitation (and then they have a direct path to "Battle of the Psychics" on TNT :D). IMHO.
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I don't think the win rate can be direct proof of cheating. For many, this percentage does not reflect their actual skill...
If you read the discussion about the signs of cheating carefully, you will see that it mentions a high win rate in games against top players. Many know how to inflate their rating by playing against average players and suggesting starting a new game if the position in a postponed game is unfavorable. And no one would think to criticize the percentages in that case.
Ms. Smekhova, thanks to her skill (and, as some believe, luck), also has a very high win rate in the games she has played. At the same time, Alex himself writes that if he played against Forrest, Mizraeel, Pete, and Lebron, he would have considered a 65% win rate to be good.
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It's interesting how Alex_R managed to lose only 3 times in 2 years. Someone should beat him a couple of times to ruin his stats! And Smekhovaya has an 83% win rate in 107 games on Battle.net.
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:D :D Don't mess up. The player I mentioned has a very high win-loss ratio, including against top players (or at least good players). He plays Cobra, Scorp, Napalm, and others. But Vitalik, for example, doesn't have such an overwhelmingly high win rate. In Nagan's famous post, he was described as almost guaranteed to win important tournament matches. However, in reality, he also had games where he lost in crucial moments (at least in the semifinals of the City Tournament).

Before accusing me of inattentiveness and highlighting it in red, try to understand the posts. I'm not interested in superficial discussions.

P.S. If Alex_R isn't confident in his gaming superiority, then playing against him is a big problem.
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And Smekhova has an 83% win rate in 107 games from the general ranking on Battle.net.
Ms. Smekhova has a habit of not finishing games in which she is in a bad situation. Even if it's the final of the St. Petersburg championship :)

If all games were played to the end, it would be around 70%, and even less against top players.
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Wicc
Ms. Smekhova has a habit of not finishing games when she's in a bad situation. Even if it's the final of the Peter championship. If all games were played to the end, the percentage would be around 70, and even less with top players.

Oh dear, that's quite a blunder. Knowing Alex, it's funny to read that:smile40: :smile40: :smile40: and also 70%, pure alcohol!!!:smile40: :smile40: :smile40:
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Oh dear, what a mess. Knowing Alex, it's funny to read that:smile40: :smile40: :smile40: and another 70%, pure alcohol!!!:smile40: :smile40: :smile40:
Don't laugh. The competition is just high on Battle.net. With players of your level, it will be 90++%. I remember Alex even beating Edik once, who was watching the map.
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You're laughing for no reason. The competition is just high on Battle.net. With players of your level, you'll have a 90%+ win rate there. I remember Alex even beating Edik once, and Edik was watching the map.

Well, thanks for the assessment of my skill. You haven't played with me even once; the circus continues. I know about the competition very well; I've played with many:smile04:!!!
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