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Here, Ricky Martin sings much better than Lasco May. And even the completely pop-oriented Five are much more pleasant to listen to. At least they create some kind of mood, rather than a misanthropic one.

If the song's melody isn't catchy enough, it's hard to highlight the vocals separately. I haven't listened to Five. But Shatunov's voice blends well with the song he performs. It's all subjective. As is the definition of pop music. For me, "91st Metla" is pop music compared to "Master of Puppets."

For me, defining what is "pop" or "not pop" doesn't depend on the number of people listening to a particular group, but rather on the genre itself. It's a purely commercial project, like Britney Spears, made on the principle of "people will buy it." Meaningless lyrics, simple, easy music, concerts with backing tracks, and other attributes. Or take rock: if a group is created by a producer (which automatically means it's only to make money), performs monotonous, simple songs about love (a popular theme for pop artists), then that's pop. If, however, they got together themselves, secured a contract with a label themselves, decided what they would play, and write their own lyrics and music (creative independence is one of the fundamental differences between rock and pop, in my opinion, not counting the music itself), then it's definitely not pop. If a group of this kind achieves popularity, it means they play good, in-demand music, and that's all. The heaviness of the music is not a criterion here, in my opinion.

light simple music

Heaviness isn't a criterion here, in my opinion.

I agree with everything, but this somehow makes me uneasy.

I agree with everything, but this part is a bit confusing.

I was talking about ordinary "classic" pop music, like the aforementioned Britney Spears. And then I moved on to rock. Isn't it heavier and more complex in any case?)) But it, in turn, is divided into heavier and less heavy, and the degree of its coolness does not depend on this.

But what about Beasts? What is that? Is it rock? Or is it a hit song by a bearded rocker about what autumn is? I, for example, can't decide whether to classify it as rock.

Heh, do "ABBA" and "Arabesque" count as pop music? My phone honestly tells me that it's disco (although it categorized some downloaded songs as pop), but I don't really believe it. I haven't listened to much modern pop "music," and what I've heard makes me feel nauseous after a couple of listens. I think it's mostly composed for GLAMOROUS girls who sigh over GLAMOROUS boys. It's a huge audience, and pop music is aimed at the masses. But if it used to be at a decent level, now all you can expect is "musi-pusi-lya-lya-lya-chmoki-chpoki." Well, it's a bit clumsy, but I think it's clear. I don't care about pop music, like I don't care about many other things. People like it, let them listen to it. I get sick of modern, saccharine songs, excuse my French. Besides, they don't sing about anything other than love, and even love in their understanding is just "musi-pusi." In general, I don't respect modern pop music, but I'm not going to start a crusade against it. I'd rather put on my favorite "Melnica" or something else. *I'm going to listen to "Epidemia" and "Nightwish."*

But what about "The Beasts"? What is that? Is it rock?

It's called pop-rock. I must say, it's not the best combination of genres, but "The Beasts" still have some attributes that are characteristic of rock bands.

Heh, and do "ABBA" and "Arabesque" fall under the category of pop music?

I don't know how it is in general, but for me, the term "pop music" is exclusively associated with modern artists... For the rest, I use the term pop music. I've heard some of ABBA's music, and it's still okay; in the eighties, that kind of light music was generally popular, it corresponded to its time, and there wasn't any scandalous image, etc. But now, it's just been put on a production line. That's why it's pop music.

Ah, it's not very appropriate to respond to a conversation partner after a month, but I only saw it today.

P.S. Did Beethoven die in poverty??? Come on... On the contrary, he hired an expensive doctor to inject him and apply lead compresses, which is what he officially died from.

"Towards the end of his life, Beethoven experienced severe financial hardship and loneliness. He couldn't hear even the loudest sounds of the orchestra and used notebooks to communicate with others. The composer found support only among a small circle of friends who shared his progressive views."
(Great Soviet Encyclopedia).

And by the way, what was the purpose of you mentioning Beethoven's well-being? Do you also think that any paid music is pop? Or are we just arguing for the sake of arguing?

I prefer music of different genres. Metal – when I need to get angry. And very heavy metal: Fear Factory, Obituary, Rage. Rock – for everyday life, so to speak. Scorpions, AC/DC, KISS, Christina Sturmer. Enya, ERA, Enigma, Mediaeval Baebes, and Emma Shaplin – for everything else.

But I still don't understand what pop music is. Is it what they sing in New Year's TV shows?:D

Pop music, in the form it exists now, doesn't deserve to exist at all. As for Western pop... they are the originators, after all. Although it's not as interesting as rock. :)

Oh yeah, I also like to listen to heavy guitar rock when I'm angry:smile04: But mostly I prefer lighter genres - Symphonic, Folk, Dramatic metal, with beautiful female vocals. It sounds harmonious and doesn't hurt my ears.
And pop music is an abstract concept, so it's hard to say, maybe I'm listening to it without realizing it. For example, if you show someone the band Melnitsa, they'll say, "Ugh, what is this pop music, what the heck, why did you turn on this crap?!!" Well, so what? I like it, and that's it! In general, pop music is just something that was invented for trolling.

You mean Nightwish, Within Temptation, later Therion, and so on. Ha! Yes, it's simply excellent!

However, pop music is promoted to generate revenue from the masses. That's its only purpose.

You mean Nightwish, Within Temptation, later Therion, etc. Ha! Yes, that's great!

Also, Darkmoor, Edenbridge, Visions of Atlantis, Lunatica, After Forever... Well, yes, that's where everyone starts. Then I just went through the whole genre, not just sticking to the popular ones (pop metal? well, no thanks), but without a doubt, these bands deservedly became famous. But among the not-so-popular ones, you can sometimes find amazing songs; I don't know what's stopping them from becoming more popular, maybe their image isn't right, or the lyrics aren't great, but I like them! For example, Kerion (fantasy metal), Amberian Dawn (symphonic, mythology), Lyriel (dark romantic), Invasion (symphonic-folk, also fantasy themed), At the Lake (folk-rock <3), Frozen Cross (symphonic) - I really liked these, there are also some more or less mediocre bands - Sirens, Leaves' Eyes, Katra, Anshine - but they're just okay.

And those who call Melnitsa "pop music" clearly don't understand anything about music.