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Vigo has nothing to do with it.
By the way, since you're willing to stand by your words, provide irrefutable evidence of Vigo cheating.

Cheating translates to deception. Deception is promising someone in ICQ that you will confirm a report (of a clearly lost game) and not doing it. Vigo did that. I'll post screenshots in 2-3 hours, although I've already done it, and they were deleted. In my understanding, Vigo is a cheater.

I see that the witch hunt continues. So, how are things going? I remember that when I stopped playing the game, Loi wrote to me in ICQ, upset that cheaters were bothering him and that the portal's management didn't want to deal with them. He announced his departure back then...
Guys, cheaters have always existed, and they always will. In this "virtual" world, I think we should take it a little easier. Although, doing nothing would also be wrong.
Here's my opinion:

1) If, after a game, you suspect someone of cheating, but you're not 100% sure (as is often the case), play another game with them, without expressing your suspicions so as not to scare away the "prey." And after two games, draw your conclusions:
a) If there is REAL evidence, then present it to the public;
b) If there is no clear evidence, but serious suspicions remain, then just don't play with that player. There are plenty of other people, and I'm sure most of them play fairly.

2) If you have nothing to prove, then there's no need to make a fuss – this isn't a market. You can also privately tell someone you know well to play with the suspected player and check their "integrity." But not publicly! That's just creating a scandal over nothing! Believe me, as a lawyer. Besides, this kind of talk promotes cheating as a phenomenon that is NOT actually punishable. It can go too far.
So, my IMHO in general: less talk and more action.

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Cheating translates to deception. Deception is promising someone in ICQ to confirm a report (for a clearly lost game) and not doing it. Vigo did this. I'll post screenshots in 2-3 hours, although I've already done this, and they were deleted. In my understanding, Vigo is a cheater.

You're not entirely right here. Not confirming a report is, of course, wrong. Vigo, please explain here why he didn't do it (or does he not admit it? sorry, I'm not aware). But in gaming slang, cheating means playing unfairly (using prohibited methods). And only in this sense can you call someone a cheater if they have been caught doing it, and the violation has been proven.
I'll possibly speak in Vigo's defense: I played with him a year ago in 2-3 games: it seems he won one, I won one, and we didn't finish one... I reviewed the saves, and there was nothing criminal in them. Of course, a lot of time has passed, and I'm not a great expert on Heroes, but still, if anyone is interested, I offer this fact:smile01:

I’ll say it one last time about Vigo. I brought up this topic on impulse, maybe I shouldn’t have, but I don’t take back a single word I said, and that’s what I wish for others, especially Vigo.

You're not entirely right here.

This is your opinion, and it's no better than mine. I repeat, the methods a cheater uses to deceive people are irrelevant in my understanding.

Interesting, so what do you suggest the administration do? Ban Vigo for an unconfirmed report? Ban Volk and Neznayka for "arguments"?
2 Neznayka, if everything is so clear and simple, why is there no evidence, and the air has been filled with accusations not for the first or even second time?
P.S. Regarding TC3, I am to blame, but there was no trash talk there.

On HeroesWorld, there seems to be a rule about unconfirmed reports. Was it introduced for nothing? Or does the "crime" have a statute of limitations? :D

I wonder, what do you suggest the administration do? Ban Vigo for an unconfirmed report? Ban Vlk and Neznayka for "trash talk"?
2 Neznayka, if everything is so clear and simple, why is there no evidence, and the air has been filled with accusations not for the first or even the second time?
P.S. Regarding TC3, I am to blame, but there was no trash talk there.

For players: I already wrote in detail above: if you want to expose a cheater, catch them and prove it, show tactical wisdom: don't immediately shout "cheater, cheater!", take a closer look - there is always something to catch them on. :smile35: Especially if you have incriminating evidence not from one game, but from several. You can share your suspicions with someone you trust so that this someone can also "check" the player. Too lazy to bother? Just don't play with such a "suspect". :smile06:
For the administration: 1-2 warnings for unjustified public insult of a player with a "bad word," followed by a ban. :smile10:
For all others, those who care: A minus in reputation (morale) for the chatterbox for each unjustified public insult of a player and, so to speak, public censure :smile42:

P.S.: and there is no need to stir up trouble!

2 Colorado. Correct, if there are accusations, they must be substantiated and justified. You can't just accuse someone without reason. +1.

http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?p=26427&highlight=#26427
Oh, what is this?
And this is a screenshot, just in case, so everyone can observe the school of cheating.

http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?p=26427&highlight=#26427
Oops, what is this?
And here's a screenshot, just in case, so everyone can observe the "school of cheating."

I don't remember whose phrase it was about the crime of the 90s: "When the state ceases to fulfill its duties, society self-organizes and creates its own structures with similar functionality."

http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?p=26427&highlight=#26427
Oh, what is this?
And this is a screenshot, just in case, so everyone can observe the cheating school.

Nightmare - there's a cheater on the server, and he's using another cheater to help him... and someone was still saying that Mike is a very honest guy, and they were criticizing my claims about cheaters. :)

Qwerty, thanks for the link, I didn't know about that story.

By the way, Mike is a very honest person. He is one of those people whom everyone who knows him trusts completely in this matter.

Mike, by the way, is a very honest person. He is one of those people whom everyone who knows him trusts completely in this matter.

I think the same can be said about SiL, whose post was somehow considered the most "cheating":confused:

P.S.: Does anyone remember which clan Djedi joined when the scandal broke out?

By the way, the topic is called "Controversial Issues and Their Solutions..."

So, there was a final match – Mike cheated, admitted it himself, and yet the judge still declared him the winner. The reason for this decision was that Mike's opponent was also suspected of cheating (although it was never proven, and he didn't confess) and that the opponent didn't want to come to the club for a face-to-face match (although there was no such condition in the rules).

I'm saying this because there are ways to cheat directly in clubs, so calling for people to play even in clubs won't really solve anything.
That's why I don't really like tournaments.

I mean that there are ways to cheat right in the clubs, so calling for people to play even in a club won't really solve anything.
That's why I don't really like tournaments.

To cheat in a club, when there are always people watching, you need to be a real magician :D